re-activate vista again and again and again

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by another lemming caught by corporate gree, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. What a wonderfull platform. The upgrade didn't work on two computers. so
    eventually I had to intsall. Of, course I followed the requirements and
    suggestions before updating to vista. Of, course it didn't work. Hours and
    hours later. Of course now I have to reactivate which vista says is on
    another computer. Of course I also had to reactivate the xp edition on one
    of my computers. Hmmmmmmm Microsoft knows that my xp was reactivated so I
    can't imagine what the problem. Now in this age where evey micro of info on
    us or our computer is sold to the hightest bidder inorder to perfect the
    sales targeted at us but not the ability to keep our computers' straight.
    Hmmmmm, I understand that I have to pay corporations in order to live but
    really you'd think that as a customer I might get a little service. Of
    course not, I must plow though other customers' posts to hopefully discover
    some help. I don't know how much any of the rest of you are getting paid to
    do microsoft's job of customer service but I didn't need to sign a w-9 or
    anything before I posted this.
    What's left? Of course call microsoft and grovel just as I read in
    another's post. Which of course is accurate and what is required. How
    baffeling that those who make their living controling our lives and exploit
    our interests with their endless advertising and ridiculous hoops to jump
    through, endlessly and aggressively targeted for things we are supposed to
    need and want and, of course pay for.
    So, I suppose my question I would like help with is: If microsoft is so far
    up my rear finding everything else out about me, how do they expect me to
    believe they don't know exactly what version of their product I am using and
    on what computer?
    Now I must use MY time, MY thought processess, other Consumers thought
    processes to solve a problem wich is only a direct consequence of corporate
    Thank you fellow consumers for trying to help each other but of course only
    microsoft or Gates or whatever is the only route for activate and
    re-activation of their products. Although this diversion (under the guise of
    help from microsoft) has been comforting in validating that I am not alone
    suffering from the purposfully designed flaws in this software company,
    Which OF COURSE is a monopoly. The wonders of unregulated greed. My, my
    when will the idiocy end?
    another lemming caught by corporate gree, Nov 28, 2007
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    You're kidding, right? ;-) It's a complete disaster as an upgrade,
    and as you noted, it's an open door to releasing a perfect, complete
    profile on the end user to MS (or as you note, whomever pays the
    highest dollar, which would likely be the DHS or the NSA).
    VISTA deactivates any previous license when installed. Full installs
    on new hard drives (in removable drive bays) or brand new PCs are
    the only 'safe' way to experiment with VISTA. If you don't tweak the
    OS immensely, you can have hidden "shadow copies" of your files
    created on a regular basis; if you inadvertantly join the little "Help us
    build a better operating system" club or report errors to MS, you're
    giving MS access to your PC. System restore in the culprit in this,
    and most people can't live without restore. If you but a new PC with
    VISTA installed, it is also crammed full of other 'trial version' or other
    permanently installed software that is equally culpable.
    (see below) Retail box sales of XP are actually up, and it is expected to
    be available for some time to come. There is no service pack for VISTA
    yet because it is extremely complicated to patch a severly broken OS.
    You can still order PCs with XP (much more available now than in the
    the first quarter after VISTA's release), and you can certainly build your
    own tower without having to deal with VISTA.

    OEM box manufacturers are offering a downgrade option on new PC
    sales that come with VISTA... offering a downgrade to XP in order to
    save the sale of the computer. Even MS is not only offering a money
    back scenario, but they'll pay your shipping cost to return the OS as well.
    Maybe you should take advantage of that.
    When people realize that having the latest OS isn't that important; when
    they realize that their work is more important than the status of having the
    supposed latest and greatest. When people realize that if they're on the
    net with this OS, they're going to be vulnerable... not to virii and malware,
    but to data access.

    It's not Bill's fault... it's the regime's fault.


    The NSA Is Likely Reading Windows Software In Your Computer

    By Sherwood Ross
    Created Oct 17 2007 - 10:05am

    Sooner or later, a country that spies on its neighbors will turn on its
    own people, violating their privacy, stealing their liberties.

    President Bush's grab for unchecked eavesdropping powers is the
    culmination of what the National Security Agency(NSA) has spent forty
    years doing unto others.

    And if you're upset by the idea of NSA tapping your phone, be advised
    NSA likely can also read your Windows software to access your computer.

    European investigative reporter Duncan Campbell claimed NSA had arranged
    with Microsoft to insert special "keys" in Windows software starting
    with versions from 95-OSR2 onwards.

    And the intelligence arm of the French Defense Ministry also asserted
    NSA helped to install secret programs in Microsoft software. According
    to France's Strategic Affairs Delegation report, "it would seem that the
    creation of Microsoft was largely supported, not least financially, by
    NSA, and that IBM was made to accept the (Microsoft) MS-DOS operating
    system by the same administration." That report was published in 1999.

    The French reported a "strong suspicion of a lack of security fed by
    insistent rumours about the existence of spy programmes on Microsoft,
    and by the presence of NSA personnel in Bill Gates' development teams."
    It noted the Pentagon was Microsoft's biggest global client.

    In the U.S., Andrew Fernandez, chief computer scientist with Cryptonym,
    of Morrisville, N.C., found Microsoft developers had failed to remove
    debugging symbols used to test his software before they released it.

    Inside the code Fernandez found labels for two keys, dubbed "KEY" and
    NSAKEY". Fernandez, though, termed it NSA's "back door" into the world's
    most widely used operation system. He said this makes it "orders of
    magnitude easier for the US government to access your computer."
    Microsoft called the report "completely false."

    Apparently, agenices of the military-industrial complex take on a life
    of their own. NSA, for example, has long engaged in commercial espionage
    eavesdropping on European businesses to benefit U.S. firms, according to
    William Blum, author of "Rogue State"(Common Courage Press).

    NSA achieves this through ECHELON("E") -- an intelligence cartel
    dominated by the U.S. with Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand and
    Canada as junior partners. Launched in the 1970s to monitor Cold War
    data, "E" morphed into "a network of massive, highly automated
    interception stations covering the globe," Blum said.

    Using "E", NSA has spied on German and French businesses which, as a
    result, have come off second best against their American competitors.
    Among companies targeted were Thomson S.A., of Paris, Airbus Industrie
    of Blagnac Cedex, France, and the German wind generator-manufacturer
    Enercon. "We know this technology("E") is there and it is being used on
    us," Josef Tarkowski, former head of counter-espionage for the German
    government told The London Sunday Times Internet Edition.

    "Like a mammoth vacuum cleaner in the sky," Blum documents, NSA's
    continuously orbiting satellites "sucks it all up:home phone, office
    phone, cellular phone, email, fax, telex∑satellite transmissions,
    fiber-optic communications traffic, microwave links∑voice, text,
    images." These are then processed by high-powered computers at Ft.
    Meade, Md., NSA headquarters.

    Billions of messages are sucked up daily, Blum writes, including those
    by presidents, prime ministers, the UN Secretary-General, the pope, the
    Queen of England, transnational corporation executives, and foreign
    embassies. It's been estimated "E" sifts through 99.9999 percent of all
    global communications to get at the 0.0001 percent that is of interest
    to it.

    Each of the English-speaking partners, Blum asserts, "is breaking its
    own laws, those of other countries, and international law -- the
    absence of court-issued warrants permitting surveillance of specific
    individuals is but one example."

    "E" works by mining for key words that are extracted by computers and
    passed along to humans for evaluation.

    Some NSA activities came to light during the countdown to the U.S.
    invasion of Iraq in 2003. At the time, the U.S. listened in on the
    private conversations of UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, UN weapons
    inspectors in Iraq, and on the deliberations about Iraq of all members
    of the UN Security Council. It also spied on organizations such as
    Christian Aid and Amnesty International. Earlier, it was said to have
    spied on U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond(R.-S.C.)

    Less well known has been E's spying on foreign firms. In 1998, German
    wind generator-maker Enercon developed a cheaper way to generate
    electricity from wind power, but its U.S. rival, Kenetech, said it had
    patented a near-identical process, and got a court order to ban Enercon
    sales in the U.S., reporter Blum writes. NSA's role was exposed when
    one of its employees revealed he had stolen Enercon's secrets by
    tapping telephone and computer links between its research and
    production units.

    Again, NSA, with CIA aid, Blum and other sources say, obtained covert
    information from French Airbus Industrie that enabled its U.S. rivals
    Boeing and McDonnell Douglas to win a $1 billion contract. "The same
    agencies also eavesdropped on Japanese representatives during
    negotiations with the U.S. in 1995 over auto parts trade," Blum added.

    The Sunday Times also reported Thomas-CSF, a French electronics maker,
    lost a $1.4 billion deal to supply Brazil with radar because the U.S.
    intercepted details of the negotiations and passed them to Raytheon, the
    U.S. firm that makes the Patriot missile. Raytheon won the contract.

    "E" is headquartered on British soil on a 560-acre base at Menwith Hill,
    in North Yorkshire, the largest listening post in the world, taken over
    by NSA in 1966. As well, the U.S. operates an enormous radar and
    communications complex at Bad Aibling, near Munich, that is also an NSA
    intercept station, and a dozen signals intelligence bases in Japan.

    NSA also read other peoples' mail by inking a secret agreement with
    Crypto AG, a Swiss maker of encryption technology, to rig their
    machines before sale so that when foreign governments used the random
    encryption key the enciphered message would be clandestinely
    transmitted to NSA.

    The result: when Iran, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia and more than 100 other
    countries sent messages to their embassies, trade offices, and armed
    forces around the world via telex, fax, and radio, NSA spooks could read
    them. NSA, by the way, employs some 30,000 workers and, if it were a
    private corporation, would rank among the top 50 on the "Fortune 500."
    It's budget, of course, is secret but it's a bet NSA is cheerfully
    gobbling up umpteen billions of your tax dollars every year. Of course,
    other countries today emulate NSA's activities. China, for example, is
    said to have hacked into British defense and foreign policy secrets and
    the German weekly Der Spiegel recently reported German computers at the
    chancellery, and foreign, economic, and research ministries are infected
    by Chinese espionage programs.

    Rather than shutting down or curbing NSA activities, President Bush is
    expanding NSA's role. Even if a rubber stamp Congress goes along, not
    everybody approves. The American Bar Association, our largest lawyer
    group, has denounced Bush's warrantless domestic surveillance program.

    "The issue is whether the president can unilaterally conduct secret
    surveillance, taking into his hands the awesome power to invade
    privacy," ABA President Michael Greco said.

    Greco may be upset because the Bill of Rights declares: "The right of
    people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,
    against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and
    no warrants shall issue, but upon probably cause, supported by oath or
    affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and
    the persons or things to be seized."

    But what did George Washington know compared to George Bush?

    [About author Sherwood Ross is an American reporter who has worked for
    major American newspapers and magazines as well as international wire
    services. To comment on this article or arrange for speaking
    engagements: ]

    David Morgan \(MAMS\), Nov 28, 2007
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