Recommend a Security Suite

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by razor_303, Sep 3, 2007.

  1. razor_303

    VistaGeek Guest

    I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a few
    months now! No impact on system. Good value for two licences

    VG
     
    VistaGeek, Sep 5, 2007
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  2. razor_303

    razor_303 Guest

    ok thanks, i think i'll go out and do some research on my own on AVG,
    kasperky, and zonealarm.

     
    razor_303, Sep 5, 2007
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  3. Your choice, of course. My view is that no matter how well something
    works, it's always possible that something else could work better.
    Just because you haven't had any problems with it doesn't mean it's
    the best possible choice.


    But that's flat out impossible. Anything you run has an impact on
    system performance. Some things have more of an impact than others,
    and some have a small enough impact on performance that you don't
    notice it. But nothing has a zero impact.

    In this case, I would suspect that the impact is greater than you
    realize.


    Perhaps. A much better value is freeware. And there's lots of good
    freeware around to compete with it.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Sep 5, 2007
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  4. I tried Norton Internet Security 2008 last night.
    Here's my take on it:

    1) Takes too much control away from the OS.
    2) Takes too much control away from the user.
    3) Too ponderous.
    4) Too complicated.

    Here're my suggestions for an Internet Security Suite:
    1) Trend Micro Internet Security 2008 (for Vista -- the XP product won't
    even install under Vista).
    2) Once it is released, the NOD32 Suite will be excellent.
    3) ZoneLabs Internet Security 2008
    4) Or, a third-party Firewall plus NOD32. Probably a better solution than a
    unified Security Suite.
    5) STAY AWAY FROM NORTON in Vista!

    Donald McDaniel
     
    Donald McDaniel, Sep 6, 2007
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  5. razor_303

    razor_303 Guest

    Sounds like Norton 08 is worse than the 07 edition, what is NOD32 companie's
    website?
    ive head that it is really good, id like to see their software
     
    razor_303, Sep 7, 2007
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  6. razor_303

    razor_303 Guest

    and does anyone know when that security suite (Eset or NOD32 Suite) will be
    released?
     
    razor_303, Sep 7, 2007
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  7. razor_303

    Charlie42 Guest

    NOD32 is made by Eset, http://www.eset.com/. Version 2.7 works with Vista.
    News about the upcoming Eset Smart Security suite can be found at
    http://www.eset.com/beta. Smart Security is currently in public beta 2, Eset
    does not have a public schedule for future releases.

    Charlie42
     
    Charlie42, Sep 7, 2007
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  8. razor_303

    Chen Shen Guest

    Just because you have to pay for something doesn't automatically make it
    good. Norton demonstrates the point perfectly. Not only is it expensive, it
    also hogs your resources, and even exibits spyware-like behaviour in that it
    "impairs user control over material changes that affects their system
    security". It is easily the worst "security" product you could ever get. But
    by your reasoning it'd be "better" than the many free and indeed superior
    anti-virus applications such as Avast or Antivir, which are not only
    resource efficient, but also does not exibit spyware-like behaviour and have
    much better detection rates than Norton.
     
    Chen Shen, Sep 8, 2007
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  9. razor_303

    razor_303 Guest

    i just dont see getting something for free and expect it to do be better
    than something i paid for, i am trying to protect my investment, i do
    realize norton isnt the best, which is why im asking for people's opinions
    on what works for them then i take that and combine with what ive read
    online and what other people have told me.

    thanks
     
    razor_303, Sep 8, 2007
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  10. Although I can understand why you feel that way, in the world of
    software, it is *often* not the case. Chen Shen gave you one example
    of an expensive paid-for product being inferior to free ones. They are
    many more examples.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Sep 8, 2007
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  11. razor_303

    razor_303 Guest


    Is the current zone alarm suite the 2008 edition or it hasnt come out yet?
    right now its at 7.1 but 7.0 was released in June of this year.
     
    razor_303, Sep 8, 2007
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  12. Why?

    By configuring your windows, using not inherently broken software and
    using your brain you don't need any such crap.
    You don't need additional software. Additional code doesn't make a
    system more secure.
     
    Straight Talk, Sep 8, 2007
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  13. As a HIPS type of application NOD32 makes good sense.
    If those firewalls are the answer, what exactly is the question?
     
    Straight Talk, Sep 8, 2007
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  14. So you're saying that AVG firewall is better than the windows
    firewall? If so, you're wrong again.
    I doubt that.
     
    Straight Talk, Sep 8, 2007
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  15. It also doesn't mean he would have had problems without it. Actually
    "I use the Zonealarm suite 7.1 and it has worked without a hitch for a
    few months now!" means nothing in terms of security.
    Exactly right. And why anyone would use system resources on mostly
    nonsense functions like the ones ZA implements puzzles me.
    How about no ware? Security software is mostly security theater.

    You make a system secure by removing attack vectors. Not by adding
    further code to it.
     
    Straight Talk, Sep 8, 2007
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  16. Here is my suggestion for a security suite:
    1) Configure windows properly
    2) Install and use not inherently broken software (which rules out IE,
    OE and Outlook)
    3) Implement Brain 1.0
     
    Straight Talk, Sep 8, 2007
    #36
  17. Ad-Aware
    AVG
    ZoneAlarm
    + good old fashioned common sense.
    Oh..and having a HW FW is a good idea too.
     
    Pseudo Silk Kimono, Sep 9, 2007
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  18. razor_303

    ptravel Guest

    Unlike Windows Firewall, AVG gives transparent control over both in-
    coming and out-going network communications.
    I'm not particularly interested in what you doubt or don't. The
    Grisoft website provides information for anyone who is interested.

    Are you one of those net posters who sense of self-worth comes from
    jumping in to threads and screaming, "You're wrong!, "I doubt that!"?
    I provided my opinion and explained why I hold it. You, on the other
    hand, seem to have very little to say.
     
    ptravel, Sep 10, 2007
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  19. The outbound control myth is so tenacious.
     
    Straight Talk, Sep 10, 2007
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  20. razor_303

    Charlie42 Guest

    NOD32 v2.7 doesn't come with a firewall, and razor_303 asked for advice on
    security suites. Therefore I felt obliged to mention some firewalls I know
    to work with NOD32. Imo. buying an entire security suite is the wrong thing
    to do when your memory and CPU resources are stretched, rather I'd recommend
    a stand alone anti-malware program and a firewall.

    As Victek pointed out, Comodo for Vista is still in beta stage of
    development (so is Outpost). For the time being, running NOD32 alongside
    with Windows Firewall is an option. If you feel a third party firewall is
    required, both PCTools and Jetico have released firewalls for Vista. PCTools
    is a bit of a hog though, I haven't tried Jetico myself.

    Charlie42
     
    Charlie42, Sep 10, 2007
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