Recover deleted subfolder in Outlook express

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by smiles, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Hi
    Can anyone tell me how I can recover one of my subfolders which I
    accidentally deleted in the Permanently deleted folder?
    Im using Outlook express. XP operating system
    Thanks
     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  2. smiles

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    [crossposted to OE General group. This is for Windows Live Mail]

    If using XP/SP2 or SP3 and have recently compacted, you may have a bak file
    in either the Recycle Bin or the OE message store. Read on, but let us know
    if that is the case and check the date created to see if it would have all
    or most of the messages.

    First, make sure it isn't in Deleted Items. If not, see if the dbx file for
    the folder still exists in the message store and manually restore it as
    follows.

    Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
    your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
    Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

    In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
    marked as hidden. To view these files in Explorer, you must enable Show
    Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options |
    View.

    In the message store in Windows Explorer, click on the dbx file for the
    missing folder and drag it to the Desktop at the top of the folder tree.
    Open OE and create a folder with the *exact* same name as the one on your
    Desktop. Open the new folder and then close OE. (You must do this). Go back
    to Windows Explorer and Click Desktop and drag the file from the Desktop to
    the OE store folder that you clicked on to reveal the .dbx files. Prompt -
    "Do you want to overwrite......."? Click Yes.

    *Note* If you have moved the Outlook Express store folder from it's default
    location on drive C to another drive, drag the dbx file to a location on
    that drive and not the Desktop.

    If you have no dbx or bak file for the missing folder, you can try DBXpress.

    DBXpress:
    http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

    You may need to run it in the Extract From Disk Mode if its normal recovery
    mode fails to find the lost messages.
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jul 2, 2009
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  3. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Yes using XP/SP3 and it has not been compacted as yet. I checked the recycle
    bin and it not there and I am unable to locate it the OE message store.
    Any suggestions?

     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  4. smiles

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    Check the message store here:

    Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
    your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
    Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

    In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
    marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
    Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
    Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
    --

    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA


     
    Bruce Hagen, Jul 2, 2009
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  5. smiles

    smiles Guest

    OK. I check there but I dont see the specific folder. I see though a folder
    -MalMSMessagesstore file. But of course I dont know how to open since it is
    in a format that requires some other program to open it. Could the folder be
    stored there?

     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  6. smiles

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    The MalMSMessagesstore file is for MS Messenger and would have nothing to do
    with this issue.

    I'm afraid your only chance now is DBXpress.

    For the future, backup on a regular basis.

    This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
    written in red. That is referring to a different program.

    Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
    http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
    --

    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA


     
    Bruce Hagen, Jul 2, 2009
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  7. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Thanks for the suggestion. So are you saying that I can use this tool to help
    recover the folder or this can be used for future use?
    Also if OE is compacted now would I be able to locate the folder or it is
    lost 'forever'?
    Thanks

     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  8. smiles

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    DBXpress /should/ be able to recover your messages from the deleted folder.
    It can be used in the future should you do this again, but I would hope you
    started backing up OE rather than relying on this tool to get lost messages
    back.

    If you compact OE now, it will only make backup copies of the folders you
    currently have, not the missing one. Do not compact until you get the lost
    messages back, or it becomes much more difficult.
    --

    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA


     
    Bruce Hagen, Jul 2, 2009
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  9. If you've permanently deleted a folder in Outlook Express, you might
    have luck with an undelete utility looking for DBX files.

    Or this program might be able to recover messages
    DBXpress - http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

    The longer you wait or the more activity on your PC, the less likely
    you'll be able to recover much.

    For further help use the following newsgroup for questions or problems
    with OE
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

    You can also get to the Outlook Express newsgroups via this web site:
    http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx
    There select Internet Explorer, then Outlook Express.
     
    Michael Santovec, Jul 2, 2009
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  10. smiles

    ...winston Guest

    You found a Mail.MSMessageStore file in OE's Message store ?

    Mail.MSMessageStore is the index file for Windows Live Mail(WLM). Did you install this program (WLM) ?

    --
    ...winston
    ms-mvp mail

     
    ...winston, Jul 2, 2009
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  11. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Thank you Bruce,
    I will try this and see what happens. I will let you know my findings
    Thanks for your time and patience.

     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  12. [I suspect the OP here is running Windows Live Mail, Bruce. YMMV.]

     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 2, 2009
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  13. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Yes Im using WLM

     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  14. smiles

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    Then why does your subject and original post refer to Outlook Express????
    Disregard /everything/ I posted. It does not pertain to Windows Live Mail
    which is nothing like Outlook Express.
    --

    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA


     
    Bruce Hagen, Jul 2, 2009
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  15. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Hi again,
    I have tried the "(Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)":, but I'm not sure
    if I'm doing the right thing. Is there a step by step method? I saw that it
    back up my existing files, but how do I try the recovery method?
     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  16. smiles

    ...winston Guest

    :)
    I suspected as much, when I saw the WLM Message Index file.

    Since it's XPSp3 that ruled out the Vista Windows Mail index file(WindowsMail.MSMessageStore).
     
    ...winston, Jul 2, 2009
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  17. smiles

    Bruce Hagen Guest

    OEQB does not work for Windows Live Mail.
     
    Bruce Hagen, Jul 2, 2009
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  18. smiles

    ...winston Guest

    Mail.MSMessageStore file in WLM is only an index. Actual messages are stored as *.eml files.
    If the folder is no longer present and the *.eml files are gone when viewed using WLM or Windows Explorer, then recovery is not
    possible using WLM or Windows.

    You might consider a third party recovery program, though ymmv
    http://www.recuva.com/



    --
    ...winston
    ms-mvp mail

     
    ...winston, Jul 2, 2009
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  19. smiles

    smiles Guest

    Im sorry Bruce if I misled you. When I downloaded WLM, I was given the option
    to synchronize all my mail which included OE. So I have been using this
    method eversince.
    Thanks anyway for your kind assistance

     
    smiles, Jul 2, 2009
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  20. smiles

    Ron Sommer Guest

    All that is known for sure is smiles has XP and is using WLMail.
    It is not known if smiles is only using WLMail. There should be an OE
    message store.
    --
    Ron Sommer

     
    Ron Sommer, Jul 3, 2009
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