Registry cleaner

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Sam Steinhauser, Nov 4, 2006.

  1. Is there any registry cleaners out for Vista yet? I spoke with a live rep
    from CleanMyPC for Registry Cleaner and they said it worked but the product
    info page doesn't claim that. I prefer Registry Mechanic but again it doesn't
    state support for Vista.
     
    Sam Steinhauser, Nov 4, 2006
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    Kerry Brown Guest

    I think you're crazy to run a registry cleaner to start with and running one
    designed for XP on Vista is even crazier.
     
    Kerry Brown, Nov 4, 2006
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  3. Well I have used Registry First Aid and System Mechanic for years and
    whatever they do to Windows XP, well it has been great. I have had a real
    performance increase from both programs on several different systems. I'm not
    going to use any program not designed for Vista but I am anxiously awaiting
    for a Vista registry cleaner.
     
    Sam Steinhauser, Nov 4, 2006
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    Hertz_Donut Guest

    Registry cleaners are at best worthless and at worst dangerous.


    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Nov 4, 2006
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    Geo. Guest

    Geo., Nov 4, 2006
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  6. Sam Steinhauser

    Kerry Brown Guest

    Have you actually measured a speed increase? The only increase would be a
    very negligible decrease in the time it takes Windows to load. This would be
    milliseconds not seconds. The way the registry works in NT based versions of
    Windows is very different from Win95 based versions. It's an old debate with
    very vocal proponents on both sides but most people who have worked on
    computers for any length of time generally don't recommend using registry
    cleaner programs. The way the registry in Vista works with virtual registry
    locations I would be doubly cautious about ever using a registry cleaner
    with Vista.
     
    Kerry Brown, Nov 4, 2006
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  7. Thank you for actually answering my question.
     
    Sam Steinhauser, Nov 5, 2006
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  8. Yes I am a very vocal proponent of the registry cleaner. I started computing
    in 1988. A few years later I was the person in town to bring your comoputer
    to for repair. I got my A+ certification last year and opened my own shop.
    Every article I read about computer maintenance says to use a registy
    cleaner. There are dozens of registry cleaners on the market. It seems
    strange that many people are that misled. Many of my customers have mentioned
    how much better thier computers run after I clean out thier registry (Win 98,
    ME & XP). Maybe there isn't one for Vista. That was my question. I use
    registry cleaners. I am a firm believer in them. I really didn't want or care
    about your opinion about them. I just wanted some input as to whether any
    were released yet.
     
    Sam Steinhauser, Nov 5, 2006
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    Cheddarhead Guest

    After you "clean" the registry and hose a vista install, dont come back here
    and whine about it and looking for help Mr computer repair man... reg
    cleaners are crap.
     
    Cheddarhead, Nov 6, 2006
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    DES Guest

    Totally uncalled for

     
    DES, Nov 6, 2006
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    Kerry Brown Guest

    If you are charging for repairing computers make sure you have a good backup
    before you run a regisrty cleaner. Sooner or later the practice will bite
    you and a customer's pc will be hosed. If you don't have have a backup you
    will be hosed as well :)
     
    Kerry Brown, Nov 6, 2006
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    Roy Coorne Guest


    U R warned;-)
     
    Roy Coorne, Nov 6, 2006
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  13. I did run the jv16PT registry cleaner that Geo gave me the link to and my
    machine is noticeable more responsive and boots faster. The jv16PT program
    found 291 errors in my registry and deleted them. My machine is smoking. I
    prefer Registry Mechanic, System Mechanic or Registry First Aid but they do
    not support Vista yet.
    If the system failed I would just boot it up in safe mode and restore it.
    Not to scary for a "Computer Repairman" like myself :)
     
    Sam Steinhauser, Nov 6, 2006
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    AJR Guest

    Sam - stick with it (registry cleaner that is). Kerry's statement "...but
    most people who have worked on
    computers for any length of time generally don't recommend using registry
    cleaner programs..."
    doesn't "hold water".
    To those "opposed" - tell me - how do you remove traces of "uninstalled" or
    "problem" applications from the registry? Manually using regedit? If so you
    are the registry cleaner! Can you answer that you have NEVER used a registry
    cleaner?
     
    AJR, Nov 6, 2006
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    Kerry Brown Guest

    Those entries cause no harm or slowdowns other than milliseconds when
    Windows first loads. And yes there are times when I use a registry cleaner
    program to see if there may be a problem with the registry. It is very rare
    because it is usually very obvious if a registry entry is causing a problem
    and there are usually other clues so you don't need to search. When I do use
    a cleaner type program I backup the registry with erunt, then use the
    registry cleaner in full manual mode checking each item carefully. If I
    don't know exactly what it is and why it is flagged I don't touch it. Try
    this with your favourite registry cleaner. Run it several times in a row and
    see if it keeps finding more "errors". Most do. The errors on the subsequent
    runs are caused by things it deleted on earlier runs. There are decent
    registry cleaner programs. They are very specialised tools and are not
    something that should be run as a part of a normal maintenance routine. I
    have seen enough damage caused by registry cleaners that I have decided they
    are usually not worth the possible benefits for me. If you haven't learned
    that yet or have come to different conclusion then good for you. My advice
    in that case is to download and use erunt before using your registry
    cleaner. Sooner or later you will be very glad you did.

    Much of the fashion for using registry cleaners stems from the days of
    win9x. Back then you needed a registry cleaner to keep your computer
    running. The way the registry is used with NT versions of Windows this is no
    longer needed.
     
    Kerry Brown, Nov 7, 2006
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    CharlieO Guest

    We ran disk wipe after installation to make sure no 'cudies' were on the
    disk. Vista doesnt come with a way to get an ISP, even though an MSN folder
    exists in Program Files; and if attempting to run, the account sign up fails.
    So we tried Earth Link, Netzero and Juno and all failed. Eventually we caled
    MSN and were read the EULA over the phone and managed to get online.
    Well, uninstalling those programs did not take some of them completely off
    as they tried to run at startup and defender kept catching them. So I
    searched the registry and was shocked to see how much junk and hidden things
    were put in the registry.
    How do you suggest we users remove those? Do I trust myself to start
    deleting rgistry keys manually? Do you think a registry cleaner is more
    efficient?
    I am going to use JV16 for nothing better.
    Also, MS sent a survey asking if it is important for MS to start work on a
    registry cleaner. So if MS is thinking about creating one, it must be
    reasonable to use one, in my opinion.
    Maybe MS should make a program to track installations and create appropriate
    uninstalls, instead of letting outside vendors trash MS OS. Responsiblity,
    another issue!!
     
    CharlieO, Nov 7, 2006
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    mik Guest

    registry cleaners do more damages than advantages
     
    mik, Nov 14, 2006
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    mik Guest

    don't use it because this program generates a lot of false registry problems
     
    mik, Nov 14, 2006
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    Dr Teeth Guest

    Let's see if we can get somebody to say they use a memory
    optimizer/defragger <snigger>.

    Cheers,

    Guy

    ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
     
    Dr Teeth, Nov 16, 2006
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    Geo. Guest

    That is not my experience.

    Geo.

     
    Geo., Nov 18, 2006
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