Registry Cleaners

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Al, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. Al

    Al Guest

    I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
    left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
    files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
    installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
    installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
    nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
    again. I did with the same results. :-(

    There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
    to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
    PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?

    Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
    Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
    expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
    that program from showing up in the install program list?

    I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
    themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
    deleted.

    Al
     
    Al, Aug 4, 2007
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    Spirit Guest

    Get CCcleaner and Wise Registry Cleaner both are free.

    http://www.ccleaner.com/

    http://www.wisecleaner.com/

    Although I consider both programs safe NEVER remove a registry
    entry unless you are SURE exactly what it does. Easy enough to
    research any suspected entries using Google.
     
    Spirit, Aug 4, 2007
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    John Barnes Guest

    I agree, but make sure you back up any entries you delete. CCleaner
    provides and easy way to do this.
     
    John Barnes, Aug 4, 2007
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    Don't rely on registry cleaners, they often mistakenly remove needed entries
    in addition to unwanted ones. Run regedit and check under this key for a
    subkey that refers to the unwanted entry and delete just that key:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
     
    Rick Rogers, Aug 4, 2007
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  5. If not you can benefit from a Registry Cleaner depends on what and how
    well written the software on your system is. The crowd that says never
    use a Registry Cleaner are simply ignorant if this any many other
    facts. Does everyone need or benefit from a Registry Cleaner? Of
    course not. That doesn't mean some people won't benefit. It is usually
    just another chorus of the do as I say crowd trying to fake they know
    what they're talking about.

    Way back when Windows was just arriving on the scene these use to be a
    program called Clean Sweep. It sat in the background and waited for
    you to install a new application. When you did it would pop up and
    record a detailed log of every entry changed or added to your system.
    Then when you deleted the application it used this log to fully remove
    it and restore the system to how it was prior to installing the new
    application.
     
    Adam Albright, Aug 4, 2007
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    Bert Kinney Guest

    Hi Al,

    Most folk around here do not recommend the use if registry cleans do to the
    unexpected results that may arise.

    And have these instructions handy in the event Windows does not start.
    Running System Restore from System Recovery Options:
    http://bertk.mvps.org/html/recovery.html

    You will also want to test system restore to make sure it is functioning
    correctly.

    1. Create a new restore point named TEST.
    2. Create a new shortcut on the desktop and point it to My Computer or any
    other file of your choice and name it TEST.
    3. Now restore to the Test restore point.

    The system will now reboot, and you will receive a message if the restore
    was successful, and the Test shortcut on the desktop will be gone.

    I would also suggest installing the following utility before hand.
    ERUNT: The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
    http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt

    Regards,
    Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
    http://bertk.mvps.org
    Member: http://dts-l.org
     
    Bert Kinney, Aug 4, 2007
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    keepout Guest

    It's called 'windows install cleanup'
    You don't need a registry cleaner to fix the add/remove section.
    Just do a search at M$ for it.
    It also works for Vista.
     
    keepout, Aug 4, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

    You can physically delete things like icons and Start menu entries. You
    could also edit the register an easy way, but be very careful and save the
    reg before starting so you can go back,

    First change your Start menu to Classic by right click/Properties.

    Then click Run and type in regedit Go

    In the Reg go Edit /Find and type the name of the program. Find every entry
    by hitting Find Next. Delete all highlighted program entries.

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    Ian

    With patience there is aways a way.

    Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will be deleted.
     
    Ian Betts, Aug 5, 2007
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  9. I suppose there is a way to go to a beach and one by one pick up the
    individual grains of sand and count them, but who would want to? Using
    Regedit to manually search for specific tidbit over and over seems
    silly to me when a Registry Clearer will generate a list of what it
    finds suspect without interaction on part of the user.

    OF COURSE it is up to the user to determine what if anything should be
    deleted from the Registry. What I object to is the numbnuts crowd
    automatically rejecting Registry Cleaners outright pretending everyone
    will just push some auto clean button. That is no more a reflection of
    reality than the example of counting grains of sand on a beach is.
     
    Adam Albright, Aug 5, 2007
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    Al Guest

    Thanks all for the suggestions and I tried CCleaner. It gives you a
    list of the problems it finds in the registry but when you tell it to
    FIX, it does not seem to do anything. When you scan again you don't
    expect it to keep finding the same stuff you just fixed.

    I did use it to delete the other stuff, cookies, history, etc. and
    when I went to program and features, the program was still listed
    there but when I clicked on it to uninstall, I was told it appears to
    be uninstalled and asked me if I want to remove it from this list.
    That seems to have worked now.

    Al
     
    Al, Aug 5, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

    I don't reject Reg Cleaners but there are so many its a mine field for most
    users and most are time limited full cost programs.

    The Find button example takes about 3 mins tops for any program so don't
    exaggerate

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    With patience there is aways a way.

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    Ian Betts, Aug 5, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

    No because its one of those. Pay up and we will work programs.

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    Ian Betts, Aug 5, 2007
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    John Barnes Guest

    Wrong. It is free and does clean entries

     
    John Barnes, Aug 5, 2007
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    John Barnes Guest

    You need to select the FIX selected entries button on the right side. It
    will then ask if you want to backup (please do), then it will show the
    entries one at a time but with a fix all entries button, your option at that
    point.
     
    John Barnes, Aug 5, 2007
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  15. The find button in Regedit assumes you KNOW beforehand what exactly
    you're looking for or it is useless. Don't mislead people. That's one
    advantage of using Registry Cleaners since they can quickly scan the
    entire Registry and build a list of orphaned keys. As always, with any
    software you still need to decide what to do with the information
    presented. The fanboys club always pretends people will foolishly push
    some auto button most Registry Cleaners have which is just as silly as
    suggesting people will keep shoveling food in their mouth and not stop
    until they puke.
     
    Adam Albright, Aug 5, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

    And this pop up to remind you to donate.

    Download installer
    Although this software is free please donate to help support the software
    and site costs.
    Everyone who donates $20 / £10 / €20 or more will be emailed all new
    releases before they're available to download on the site.
    (Click on the image to donate using PayPal)

    Huge


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    Ian

    With patience there is aways a way.

    Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
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    Ian Betts, Aug 5, 2007
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    Ian Betts Guest

    I very clearly stated that but you only read what you what to in order to
    pour scorn.

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    Ian

    With patience there is always a way.

    Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will be deleted.
     
    Ian Betts, Aug 5, 2007
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  18. What you actually said ===> "The Find button example takes about 3
    mins tops for any program so don't exaggerate."

    What you neglected to mention is 'find' is useless unless you know
    beforehand WHAT you tell Regedit to look for. I'm sorry you can't
    stand to have the record corrected. That's a common problem of the
    fanboy crowd. They say something either factually wrong or
    deliberately misleading then scream bloody murder when facts confirm
    they were spreading their usual BS.
     
    Adam Albright, Aug 5, 2007
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    keepout Guest

    And I was right, I did post the simple solution above and beyond hacking the registry to pieces, but no one saw it.
     
    keepout, Aug 5, 2007
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    John Barnes Guest

    What free software sites don't have a place for voluntary contributions. As
    long as it isn't crippled if you don't pay it's free.
     
    John Barnes, Aug 5, 2007
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