Registry Maintenance

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by 67RAM67, Dec 14, 2008.

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    67RAM67 Guest

    I was wondering if there are any excellent FREE registry cleaners for Vista
    Ultimate that is recommended by microsoft? I found something from Ascentive
    that looks good but I am not fully sure (Even though it isn't free).
     
    67RAM67, Dec 14, 2008
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  2. You are going to find that most folks here will warn you never to use any
    registry cleaners, FREE or PRICED.
     
    Charles W Davis, Dec 14, 2008
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    GrahamH Guest

    Hi,
    Not sure if these are Microsoft recommended but take a look.

    http://registrycleanerhelp.org/7fjw/

    Regards,
    Graham.....
     
    GrahamH, Dec 14, 2008
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  4. There are a lot of free ones but they - free and not free - all suck.

    They don't speed up your system and it's quite possible that you will
    screw up your system by using them.
     
    Billy Buddusky, Dec 14, 2008
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  5. *All* registry cleaners, free or not, should be avoided.

    Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.

    Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Dec 14, 2008
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  6. Here's a free registry cleaner: 'WiseCleaner.com - Version Free and
    Pro' (http://www.wisecleaner.com/freeandpro.html). And of course
    CCleaner also has a registry cleaner built in. 'CCleaner - Home'
    (http://www.ccleaner.com/)
     
    Blackstickman, Dec 14, 2008
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  7. You don't need a registry cleaner, they cause more problems than they
    actually cure. My advise is steer well clear of registry cleaners.

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    John Barnett MVP, Dec 14, 2008
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    To my knowledge, Microsoft has never endorsed any registry cleaner.

    My opinion is shared by other responders in that not only are they not
    recommended but they can be very dangerous.

    My question to you is why do you think you need to use one?
     
    Rick Rogers, Dec 14, 2008
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  9. There is no such thing as a "good" (meaning useful or beneficial)
    registry cleaner, free or otherwise. Some are less harmful than others,
    but because they're all nothing but snake oil, I won't recommend any.

    Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
    specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
    bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
    using a registry "cleaner?"

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
    be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
    specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
    all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
    the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
    to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
    multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
    your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
    the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
    device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
    registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
    loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
    confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
    each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
    automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
    experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
    Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
    of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
    maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
    experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
    no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
    automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
    inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
    certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
    of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
    performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
    worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
    every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
    And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
    good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
    real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
    effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
    non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
    of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
    useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
    any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
    registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
    Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
    in the hands of the inexperienced user.

    A little further reading on the subject:

    Why I don't use registry cleaners
    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

    AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
    Cleaner?
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


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    Bruce Chambers, Dec 14, 2008
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  10. Sadly, Rick, that's no longer true. Microsoft has recognized the
    potential revenue stream provided by selling snake oil products to the
    gullible:

    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

    The bright side, of course, is that Live OneCare is soon to be
    discontinued.




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    Bruce Chambers, Dec 14, 2008
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Actually, I was thinking strictly of third party product endorsements. In
    the Win9x days, they also distributed regclean to help prevent the registry
    bloat problem associated with that line.

    OneCare, and the damage it caused, is something I will not miss.
     
    Rick Rogers, Dec 14, 2008
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  12. Operating systems based upon NT ignore orphaned entries. While registry
    cleaners will remove these, although maybe not all, the cleaning process may
    render some or all of your computer unusable.

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    Mike Hall - MVP, Dec 14, 2008
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  13. Ah, I see. In that sense, you're correct.


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    Bruce Chambers, Dec 14, 2008
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  14. As in 'Uniscrue' Registry Booster?


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    Mike Hall - MVP, Dec 14, 2008
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    f/fgeorge Guest

    Agreed most reviews have shown they cause MANY more problems than they
    solve.
     
    f/fgeorge, Dec 16, 2008
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    Spirit Guest

    Actually Windows Live has a Registry Cleaner now....

    Free trial, caused no issues here.
     
    Spirit, Dec 16, 2008
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    Marilee Guest

    I agree with the others. I found when using XP that a registry cleaner did
    more damage than good. It actually deleted important HKEY files that my
    computer needed. I had to do a complete pc restore and then reinstall my
    programs and download the rest from my online back up. Thank goodness I had
    all that. Don't use one. In fact I was just looking up that info for a
    possible one on Vista and then I remembered they are no good. When I
    uninstall a program I use a special uninstaller and that clears out dead
    registry files associated with the program I am removing. However to avoid
    anyone saying I recommended that program I am not going to name it here. You
    have to know what you are doing and how to use it or it too can remove the
    wrong files. I've been doing desktop support for family and friends for years
    now so I'm comfortable with it. But cleaning your registry does not speed up
    your computer. Take it from all the Microsoft pros who already posted here.
    You don't need one.

    Happy 2009 everyone!
     
    Marilee, Jan 2, 2009
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  18. I have pointed many XP/Vista users to the Online Safety Scan provided by
    Microsoft. It includes a registry cleaner. Should that be avoided as well, or
    is theirs "safer" to use?

    Mike
     
    Memphis PC Guy, Jan 5, 2009
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  19. In theory it should be, but I don't trust any registry cleaner as far as I
    can toss it. All it takes is one "orphaned entry" that isn't and something
    just went splat! against the wall. Probably a program you really need. :)
     
    Richard G. Harper [MVP], Jan 5, 2009
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  20. One would hope that it is at least marginally safer (ignoring
    Microsoft's history with the old RegClean) than 3rd party products, but
    it is still no more useful.


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    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 6, 2009
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