Registry

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by avgwarhawk, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. avgwarhawk

    avgwarhawk Guest

    Does Vista require a registry cleaner such as RegClean or any othe
    third party registry cleaner
     
    avgwarhawk, Jan 8, 2009
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    Gordon Guest

    No, No and NO!
     
    Gordon, Jan 8, 2009
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  3. No it doesn't. Keep well away from registry cleaners, in most cases they
    cause more problems than they actually solve.

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    avgwarhawk Guest

    anyone
     
    avgwarhawk, Jan 9, 2009
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  5. Your question has already been answered by both Gordon and myself. The
    answer is No.

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    nelsonsdavis Guest

    Why not? Use CCleaner - it has a good built in reg cleaner
     
    nelsonsdavis, Jan 10, 2009
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  7. CCleaner is excellent for cleaning out the temporary internet files and
    other most recently used index files and I use it a lot, but I don't use the
    registry cleaner, even though it is 'tame' compared to other registry
    cleaners. My maxim is 'if you can't manually edit the registry then leave
    well alone.' Registry cleaners have been know to cause more problems than
    they solve and they certainly flag more false positives than positive.
    You use registry cleaners at your own risk.

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    avgwarhawk Guest

    Is it necessary to have a registry cleaner for Vista
     
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    Gordon Guest

    Again, NO. Read the other replies.
     
    Gordon, Jan 10, 2009
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    nelsonsdavis Guest

    YES.

    And why do you ask?

    If in doubt, do a google search and make up your on mind
     
    nelsonsdavis, Jan 10, 2009
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    Ralph Guest

    no. you'd need to filter out the replies from anyone that doesn't know the
    damage they did.
    You didn't need one in XP, either.

    Check out a few of the notes from MS personnel. - or a referred tech
    support.

    Anyone with actual practical knowledge in tech support should have been
    trained to NEVER use these things. Some do anyway.
    I take my leave when anyone says they use one, or speak about something
    else.
    In my opinion, using a registry cleaner is akin to going into the registry
    manually and guessing which entries to delete.
    You just made Best Buys boys a few bucks richer.

    I tried a couple when I was using Win98, and found they didn't improve
    anything, and caused future problems.
    Since I have never used one again, I have had absolutely no Windows crashes.
    I have downloaded, tested, and crashed other programs, (which I do
    frequently) but have not had Windows XP or Vista crash, and I have never
    re-installed.
     
    Ralph, Jan 10, 2009
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    avgwarhawk Guest

    Do a Google search? Hmmmm, I did and ended up here. Go figure. Las
    time I check this forum was for question and answers on Vista. I gues
    this is why I asked
     
    avgwarhawk, Jan 11, 2009
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    dinesh Guest

    dinesh, Jan 11, 2009
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    avgwarhawk Guest

    Thanks a million! The program works great and you can't beat the price
     
    avgwarhawk, Jan 11, 2009
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  15. I've tested many registry cleaners and each one came up with different
    problems. There are so many false positives that, in the end, the user
    hasn't got a clue which registry entries to remove. I even had an email from
    one user who used a registry cleaner and it stopped his computer dead. As
    I've said time and time again, if you can't manually edit the registry,
    whereby you know exactly what you aim to remove, then leave well alone and
    keep well away from registry cleaners.


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    dinesh Guest

    Your Welcome avgwarhawk...;
     
    dinesh, Jan 15, 2009
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  17. Vista requires the exactly the same sort of registry "cleaning" as
    Win2K and WinXP: *NONE*

    Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
    specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
    bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
    using a registry "cleaner?"

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
    be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
    specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
    all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
    the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
    to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
    multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
    your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
    the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
    device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
    registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
    loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
    confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
    each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
    automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
    experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
    Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
    of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
    maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
    experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
    no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
    automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
    inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
    certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
    of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
    performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
    worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
    every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
    And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
    good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
    real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
    effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
    non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
    of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
    useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
    any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
    registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
    Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
    in the hands of the inexperienced user.

    A little further reading on the subject:

    Why I don't use registry cleaners
    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

    AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
    Cleaner?
    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099



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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 16, 2009
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  18. There is no such thing as a "good" (meaning useful or beneficial)
    registry cleaner, free or otherwise. Some are less harmful than others,
    but because they're all nothing but snake oil, I won't recommend any.

    Granted, CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long
    as you step through each detected "issue" (almost all of which will be
    bogus) one at a time, to determine if it really is an "issue" or not,
    and then decide whether or not to let the application "fix" it. In my
    testing, though, most of the reported "issues" won't be issues, at all.
    I tried the latest version on a brand-new OS installation with no
    additional applications installed, and certainly none installed and then
    uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred
    allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
    "suspicious" files. Its findings were utter nonsense, in plain terms.

    CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies
    in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
    drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly different from
    any other snake oil product of the same type.


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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 16, 2009
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  19. That is utterly and completely wrong. Are you deliberately given bad
    advice?
    Because he's smart enough to "look before he leaps," perhaps?



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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 16, 2009
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    Barnabas Guest

    I have Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 and tried Auslogic Registry Defra
    thinking that if it works as well as their Disk Defrag then its ok. Wel
    after running it, I discovered that it disabled my STacSV.exe file fo
    Audio Service and wiped out my System Restore points going back 3 week
    so unable to reset at least the registry after I ran the program:(.
    should have backed up just the registry...but I was thinking that
    "defrag" program would be different than a "cleaner" whereby keys an
    hives are put back in the order they should be and not deleted o
    removed. So anyone using Auslogics registry defrag for Vista x64 SP
    check some things out or better yet...back up just the registry!
    learned something...again:shock
     
    Barnabas, Feb 21, 2009
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