Repairing Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Wiley C, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or
    from the OEM
    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/5c59f8c1-b0d1-4f1a-af55-74f3922f3f351033.mspx

    In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair
    installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1
    and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an
    upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages
    often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing.

    If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same
    thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix
    the issue?

    Thanks for your time & comments.
     
    Wiley C, Jan 5, 2009
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  2. Wiley C

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change in
    the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade as
    described here:
    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

    Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or upgrade
    an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You don't
    need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's.
     
    Rick Rogers, Jan 5, 2009
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  3. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    Thank you.
    :up:

    WC

     
    Wiley C, Jan 5, 2009
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  4. Wiley C

    Victek Guest

    First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change
    FWIW, I've used XP media with an older service pack to do repair installs
    and then reinstalled the latest updates & service pack without problems -
    maybe I've been lucky?
     
    Victek, Jan 5, 2009
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  5. Check this link from my website:
    http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vi...sing_the_upgrade_option_of_the_vista_dvd.html

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    John Barnett MVP, Jan 5, 2009
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  6. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    Dear Mr Barnett:
    Thank you.

    Please clarify this step:
    "3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be found
    useful"
    Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something else?

    You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue. But to
    me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk, if one
    has upgraded to SP1.

    Thanks for your time & knowledge.

    Sincerely,
    WC

     
    Wiley C, Jan 6, 2009
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  7. Sorry WC I suppose I should have changed the numbering sequences to read
    3.1, 3.2, 3.3 etc. This I will do as soon as I can. Unfortunately this is a
    brand new website and I am experiencing a few niggling problems which are
    taking more time than I expected to iron out.

    However, in answer to your question the "3/ After the upgrade has completed
    the following instruction will be found useful" 'the following instructions'
    do refer to item 4 to 16. This is basically because you will be asked to
    activate the system once again.

    As for the version of the installation DVD if you have purchased a copy of
    Vista which already contains SP1 then, by all means, you can ignore my
    comment regarding uninstalling SP1. If, on the other hand, you 'updated' via
    windows update etc to SP1 you will need to uninstall SP1 because your
    original DVD will complain that a higher version of Vista is installed and
    will therefore refuse to do the necessary upgrade.

    Once again my apologies for the confusion


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    John Barnett MVP, Jan 6, 2009
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  8. WC the site has now been updated.

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  9. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    Dear Victek:
    Thank you for the link. However, if the problem includes a BSOD of 0xf4 and
    not being able to access Windows, your link will not work. I apologize for
    not including the limitation of not being able to access the desktop.

    WC
     
    Wiley C, Jan 7, 2009
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  10. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    RR:
    Thank you for the link. However, if the problem includes a BSOD of 0xf4 and
    not being able to access Windows, your link will not work. I apologize for
    not including the limitation of not being able to access the desktop.

    WC

     
    Wiley C, Jan 7, 2009
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  11. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    Thank you. My intent, Mr Barnett, was not to spur you into action. I merely
    needed clarification.

    1. If one has installed Vista SP0 & upgraded to SP1, then received a BSOD
    which prevents one from accessing Programs & feathers, to uninstall SP1,
    what's a person to do?
    1.a. Borrow an SP1 DVD from a friend?
    1.b. Use a slipstreamed SP1 DVD?

    Thank you, Mr Barnett, for your input.


     
    Wiley C, Jan 7, 2009
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Then you have no repair options and will need to complete a side-by-side
    installation. This you can do by not formatting during setup. The existing
    installation will be moved to a windows.old folder where you can later
    recover data from. You will not be able to recover installed software and
    user accounts, these will need to be recreated. It won't matter what service
    pack level disk you use for this.



     
    Rick Rogers, Jan 7, 2009
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  13. If something is not clear on my website(s) then I would rather know about
    it. If I am told then the problem can be fixed, If no one says anything then
    I can only assume everything is working as it should be.

    Can you access the system through Safe Mode? If you can you should be able
    to remove SP1

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    John Barnett MVP, Jan 7, 2009
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  14. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    Mr Barnett:
    Unfortunately, the desktop cannot be accessed using:
    safe mode [ all variations ];
    last known good config.
    Startup repair fails.

    WC

     
    Wiley C, Jan 8, 2009
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  15. Wiley C

    Wiley C Guest

    Mr R:
    Thank you for the information.

    Will the previous folders, such as, but not limited to "users" folder and
    "program files" remain in a side by side installation of Vista?

    Thanks for your time.

    WC

     
    Wiley C, Jan 8, 2009
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