Report Report !! Biggest Vista piracy website found !!!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006.

  1. Janet Chen

    Janet Chen Guest

    it's a Chinese forum http://www.vistafans.com (aka http://bbs.pcbeta.com )
    this website may restrict some overseas IP to access and registration may
    required to view certain contents.
    Someone forward this to MS legal department please !!

    Chinese Vista 32bit/64bit download (over thousands of participants since Dec
    1,2006)
    http://www.vistafans.com/thread-68026-1-1.html

    Latest KMS server update
    http://www.vistafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=66374

    image of KMS activation (first server)
    http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7913/kms01nk5.gif

    image of KMS activation (second server)
    http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1599/kms02yr8.jpg
    http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7045/kms03rr7.jpg

    third KMS server, 220.133.135.222: 1688 (this server created by VMware)
    etc... all can be found in http://www.vistafans.com (aka
    http://bbs.pcbeta.com )

    Those KMS servers now run part-time irregularly and by members' request.
    From the KMS threads in the forum, you can easily read that those KMS
    servers actually
    started service since mid Nov.

    www.vistafans.com (aka http://bbs.pcbeta.com ) also include huge amount of
    illegal Vista resources !!
     
    Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006
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  2. Janet Chen

    Janet Chen Guest

    Can you believe that? Anyone who follow instructions to download the
    activated KMS vmware image can host their own KMS server and activate Vista
    business without limit!!????

    http://bbs.pcbeta.com/viewthread.php?tid=65266

    The Chinese piracy have gone CRAZY !!
     
    Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006
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  3. Are you complaining or advertising? With all those URLs it seems like
    you're advertising.
     
    Michael Cecil, Dec 6, 2006
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  4. Janet Chen

    Janet Chen Guest

    if i don't qoute the URL, then how MS people start investigate?
    you don't read Chinese right?
     
    Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006
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  5. Janet Chen

    Janet Chen Guest

    Vista will suffer more than XP.

    When XP launched in 2001, there's no good crack for XP in the first year.
    That early Russian crack just make system unstale.
    There were customers buying geninue XP until one day, Shanghai City
    Govenment had a deal with Microsoft, then leaked both the XP and Volume
    License Key(s) to the public.

    The stupid KMS is not better than VLK. Many IT professional in China can
    easily host a KMS server (with stolen KMS key) and start activate Vista
    Business edition as early as BEFORE Vista come to the retail market...
    Without a crack, perfect activation. KMS is disaster.

    ..... However, what confuse me is that Microsoft should already known that in
    China, XP VLK piracy were indeed done by dishonest Govenment sectors and
    Business partners. So now Microsoft should eliminate any kind of Volume
    License in China. All Windows sold in China must be activated one by one
    against servers in headquater USA.

    And about Microsoft deal with branded PC manufacturer, pre-installed
    Windows???

    Not many Chinese buy brand PC, most prefer DIY. Even for the brand PCs, only
    top-end models from few brands pre-installed Windows.
    The majority brand PCs still no Windows.
     
    Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006
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  6. Janet Chen

    Roscoe Guest

    Maybe MS just doesn't really care.
     
    Roscoe, Dec 6, 2006
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  7. Janet Chen

    mlai Guest

    Maybe MS purposely leak that so that they can maintain market share.....
    After all, the Chinese did put out and advertise the use of FreeBSD/linux
    based OS.......
     
    mlai, Dec 6, 2006
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  8. Janet Chen

    Janet Chen Guest

    ****

    Micrsoft should care NOW...
    find a solution ASAP, just in case, in the next few months, hundreds of
    Chinese KMS servers appear on the Internet and get out of control.

    "Let's build a KMS server" is getting hot in China...

    Quite a lot of Chinese IT websites now teach you how to build a KMS server.
     
    Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006
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  9. Janet Chen

    Mr. Vista Guest


    So what?.
    This is a peer to peer newsgroup, not a peer to Microsoft newsgroup.
    If you are so 'concerned' then tell Microsoft.
     
    Mr. Vista, Dec 6, 2006
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  10. Janet Chen

    Alan Guest

    Hi Roscoe,

    From reading this and other threads in this group regarding Vista piracy in
    China, I think Microsoft realizes that there's nothing it can do about
    piracy there, especially as it appears to be sanctioned -- at least
    unofficially -- by both Microsoft and its business partners in that country.

    Microsoft makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
    prices for its customers here in the USA. In effect, those of us in the USA
    who buy Vista or purchase machines with Vista already preinstalled, are
    subsidizing the piracy.

    Microsoft is making the profit for worldwide sales of Vista that it's
    established in its business model, those in China are getting it for
    nothing -- and we USA customers are paying the bill.

    Alan
     
    Alan, Dec 6, 2006
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  11. Janet Chen

    Mike Guest

    Apple makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
    prices for its customers here in the USA.

    Adobe makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
    prices for its customers here in the USA.

    Everyone makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
    prices for its customers here in the USA.

    What's your point?

    Mike
     
    Mike, Dec 6, 2006
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  12. If you are interested in MS investigating, then email them at
    .

    If you are interested in spreading piracy, then continue to post the URLs
    to this newsgroup which MS does not monitor.
     
    Michael Cecil, Dec 6, 2006
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  13. Janet Chen

    Alan Guest

    My point is why should American customers be the financial angels for these
    Corporate behemoths who can't stanch the piracy -- and who apparently don't
    give a shit -- so long as the bottom line to keep stockholders happy is
    achieved?

    Microsoft makes a huge deal about "taking piracy seriously," but it seems
    the only place it takes it seriously is in the USA, where it can try to
    intimidate users of its products.

    Alan
     
    Alan, Dec 6, 2006
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  14. Janet Chen

    Alan Guest

    Michael,

    If you truly believe that Microsoft does not monitor these newsgroups,
    you're being naive. Microsoft might never acknowledge its read-only-mode
    presence here, but it would be very stupid of Microsoft not to use these
    newsgroups as a useful source of information.

    Alan
     
    Alan, Dec 6, 2006
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  15. Janet Chen

    mlai Guest

    MS does monitor these newsgroups, partly because these are part of the
    technet monitored newgroups.....
     
    mlai, Dec 6, 2006
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  16. Janet Chen

    Janet Chen Guest

    ****
    Pricing for Chinese Vista in China is only 10 - 15% lower than US pricing.
    Take Home Premium for example, wholesale price is 1536, retail price expect
    to be 1650 Yuan or USD 212.
    Not many Chinese home users willing to pay this price for a Windows.
    I think if the price can drop to 600 Yuan or USD 78 can definitely attract
    much more people to purchase.
    By the way, who use Simplified Chinese Windows in the world? Only people in
    Mainland China.
    So don't worry about export dumping.


    Wholesale price for Chinese Vista in China.

    ¡@¡@66J-00199 Windows Vista Business ChnSimp DVD 1,806

    ¡@¡@66G-00142 Windows Vista Home Basic ChnSimp DVD 1,295

    ¡@¡@66I-00166 Windows Vista Home Prem ChnSimp DVD 1,536

    ¡@¡@66R-00187 Windows Vista Ultimate ChnSimp DVD 2,421¡@
     
    Janet Chen, Dec 6, 2006
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  17. Says one with no less than three links in his signature. Advertising
    are ya?
     
    Dr. Heywood Floyd, Dec 6, 2006
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  18. So what? It is no good for those who can't read chinese, we can't figure out
    how to use it.
     
    Mario Rosario, Dec 6, 2006
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  19. Janet Chen

    Henry Guest

    Hi, don't get your self in trouble posting, if they haven't seen your posts
    by now then they are blind.
     
    Henry, Dec 6, 2006
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  20. Janet Chen

    DCR Guest

    From what I've read in this newsgroup, those in Europe and Australia
    are footing much more of the bill.


    | Hi, don't get your self in trouble posting, if they haven't seen your posts
    | by now then they are blind.
    |
    | | >
    | > "Alan" <>
    | > ?¤J®ø®§·s?:...
    | >> Hi Roscoe,
    | >> Microsoft makes up the dollars lost in piracy there by charging inflated
    | >> prices for its customers here in the USA. In effect, those of us in the
    | >> USA who buy Vista or purchase machines with Vista already preinstalled,
    | >> are subsidizing the piracy.
    | >>
    | >> Microsoft is making the profit for worldwide sales of Vista that it's
    | >> established in its business model, those in China are getting it for
    | >> nothing -- and we USA customers are paying the bill.
    | >>
    | >> Alan
    | > ****
    | > Pricing for Chinese Vista in China is only 10 - 15% lower than US pricing.
    | > Take Home Premium for example, wholesale price is 1536, retail price
    | > expect to be 1650 Yuan or USD 212.
    | > Not many Chinese home users willing to pay this price for a Windows.
    | > I think if the price can drop to 600 Yuan or USD 78 can definitely attract
    | > much more people to purchase.
    | > By the way, who use Simplified Chinese Windows in the world? Only people
    | > in Mainland China.
    | > So don't worry about export dumping.
    | >
    | >
    | > Wholesale price for Chinese Vista in China.
    | >
    | > ¡@¡@66J-00199 Windows Vista Business ChnSimp DVD 1,806
    | >
    | > ¡@¡@66G-00142 Windows Vista Home Basic ChnSimp DVD 1,295
    | >
    | > ¡@¡@66I-00166 Windows Vista Home Prem ChnSimp DVD 1,536
    | >
    | > ¡@¡@66R-00187 Windows Vista Ultimate ChnSimp DVD 2,421¡@
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
    |
     
    DCR, Dec 6, 2006
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