Reposition/resize IE7 toolbars/menus?

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by dave, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. dave

    dave Guest

    In IE6, I could pick up the menu, the address bar, the next/prev button
    group, the google toolbar, etc and move them around to minimize the space
    taken up by browser fluff.

    When installing IE7 it proudly boasted that it was designed to maximize the
    space available for viewing the content of web pages, but I find that with so
    many of its components being static, I leaves a lot LESS space available for
    viewing web content.

    I cannot find any way to eliminate / move / resize / customize any of these
    new fangled IE7 features. What am I missing?
     
    dave, Oct 19, 2006
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  2. dave

    tcebob Guest

    You are not alone. Check out http://www.quero.at/ . Relax, it's one of the good ones.

    rs

    : In IE6, I could pick up the menu, the address bar, the next/prev button
    : group, the google toolbar, etc and move them around to minimize the space
    : taken up by browser fluff.
    :
    : When installing IE7 it proudly boasted that it was designed to maximize the
    : space available for viewing the content of web pages, but I find that with so
    : many of its components being static, I leaves a lot LESS space available for
    : viewing web content.
    :
    : I cannot find any way to eliminate / move / resize / customize any of these
    : new fangled IE7 features. What am I missing?
     
    tcebob, Oct 19, 2006
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  3. dave

    Gordon Guest

    Right-click on the toolbar, choose "Unlock Toolbars",. You can then
    eliminate every toolbar except the address bar.
     
    Gordon, Oct 19, 2006
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  4. dave

    J. Ryan Guest

    You miss the point of this, and many other like, posts. The object is NOT
    to enable/disable the toolbar. The issue is to be able to view them and to
    rearrange then to ones preference.
     
    J. Ryan, Oct 19, 2006
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  5. dave

    Ayush Guest

    Isn't there a registry modification that allows to resize toolbars the way
    you like...

    I have not installed it but i want full customization when i will use
    it.....

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    : You are not alone. Check out http://www.quero.at/ . Relax, it's one of
    the good ones.
    :
    : rs
    :
    : :: In IE6, I could pick up the menu, the address bar, the next/prev button
    :: group, the google toolbar, etc and move them around to minimize the
    space
    :: taken up by browser fluff.
    ::
    :: When installing IE7 it proudly boasted that it was designed to maximize
    the
    :: space available for viewing the content of web pages, but I find that
    with so
    :: many of its components being static, I leaves a lot LESS space available
    for
    :: viewing web content.
    ::
    :: I cannot find any way to eliminate / move / resize / customize any of
    these
    :: new fangled IE7 features. What am I missing?
    :
    :
     
    Ayush, Oct 19, 2006
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  6. dave

    J. Ryan Guest

    No - The address bar - with that stupid search thingie on the right end -
    is fixed to the top position and the tabs list is fixed to the bottom.



     
    J. Ryan, Oct 19, 2006
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  7. dave

    Nero Guest

    nope
     
    Nero, Oct 19, 2006
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  8. dave

    Xigam Guest

    Right-click on the toolbar, choose "Unlock Toolbars",. You can then
    I want to eliminate the address bar. How can I do that?
    I want to resize the address bar. How can i do that?
    I want to move all my navigation buttons to the same bar. How can I do that?
    I want to move My Favorites icon to the address bar. How can I do that?
    I want to move RSS feeds icon to the address bar. How can I do that?

    Can I do these things?

    Because if I can't, then I won't use your browser. And I will make sure that
    all the pages I code from this day forward will work well with Firefox.

    Which is something that I didn't use to do. I would just tell the users "IE
    is the corp. standard". Now, I'm very motivated to fix the pages that break
    Firefox.. I might miss alot of lunches, but, I will be able to have my
    navigation buttons on one line.
     
    Xigam, Oct 19, 2006
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  9. dave

    YAH Guest

    .... or the favorites bar or the tabs bar or the command bar.
     
    YAH, Oct 19, 2006
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  10. dave

    YAH Guest

    The IE7 user interface is quite primitive, lacking the customizability
    that any experienced user would expect and demand and in fact
    lacking some functionality that was even available in past versions.
    Microsoft has never provided a detailed or rational explanation for
    this, though they have thrown some words out there designed to
    make people think it was being done for security purposes and
    their IE7 advertising is designed to make people forget about the
    limitations and buy into the "simple is good" concept. In much the
    same way that they have thrown words out there designed to make
    people think that the Windows Vista software license isn't different
    from the Windows XP license and the new restrictions really only
    affect software pirates.

    Anway, there are some tweaks you can do to change the IE7 UI.
    There is a registry hack that will move the menu, links, and add-in
    toolbars (as a unit) above the address/navagation bar. There is a
    group policy setting that can be used to remove the search box
    (the address bar will grow to consume that saved space). The
    address/nav bar is otherwise locked and can't be mixed with
    other bars. The favs/tabs/command bars are locked relative to
    each other and can't be mixed with other bars either. The
    command bar customization is very limited. Etc. There are some
    payfor and freeware third party addons that can be acquired and
    installed to bring IE7 a little closer to what it should be. You can
    learn more by perusing the threads in this group, search the group
    via Google Groups search, call Microsoft's IE support number
    (866-234-6020), etc.

    Firefox 2 is at RC3 and should be released in the near future. It
    doesn't have an especially great user interface either but you can
    do some things with it that you can't do with IE7. You could look
    into that too if you are interested.
     
    YAH, Oct 20, 2006
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  11. dave

    technotom Guest

    Yeah I complained about that after about 10 seconds of using RC1 and wasn't
    alone in doing so. I much prefer IE6. The anti-aliasing in 7 is the only
    improvement I've noticed. Really pisses me off having a whole extra row for 7
    icons. Gonna switch to Firefox.
     
    technotom, Oct 20, 2006
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    rocky Guest

    The interview at http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=247016 has Max
    Stevens and Dave Massy talking about the customisability of IE7. Max Stevens
    says that they had to reduce customisability to implement tabs without
    breaking compatibility with add-ons and that they want to improve
    customisability in the future. Dave Massy says that people should stick with
    the current interface and get used to and then they may find like him that
    the IE6 interface is clunky when going back to it.
     
    rocky, Oct 20, 2006
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  13. dave

    Xigam Guest

    I think I am to.. I just can't accept this button layout. Last I checked, it
    was 2006, going on 2007, and I don't think IE's 'frozen menu' UI is cutting
    it. I can't stand the home and stop reload button placement.

    I used to be such a big IE fan too.. I've REALLY been looking forward to IE7.

    I found a plugin for Firefox that will let me open a page in IE if I need
    to.. And another friend said he had a program that would sync my favorites
    between the two. So.. IE's fast on it's way to being my 2nd choice.

    Ask me this before IE7 and I would have laughed at you.. I was BIG IE fan vs
    Firefox. I am making a 180 right now; and MS's BS on this issue isn't helping
    at all.
     
    Xigam, Oct 20, 2006
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  14. I have pointed out all these problems AGAIN AND AGAIN to microsoft.. giving
    feedback.... but they ignored me....

    wait until you see vista and office 2007 and then you will totally puke...

    they are all horrible
     
    John Jay Smith, Oct 20, 2006
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  15. dave

    YAH Guest

    Thanks for the link. I previously had only seen a non-MS guy suggest that
    some of the interface rigidity could be related to backward compatability
    with add-on toolbars. This raises questions like ... 1) to what degree if
    any was it absolutely essential and to what degree if any was it just easier
    faster to maintain backwards compatability by sacrificing customizability,
    and 2) IF to some degree is was absolutely essential, was sacrificing the
    latter for the former actually the right decision. Unfortunately the vid only
    included a statement or two on the subject rather than some meaningfull
    and persuasive comments. Others including you are free to believe that
    there was only one way to write the code and that a sacrifice was the
    only/best choice.
    I guess we'll see what actually happens on that front and in particular
    how quickly they try to meet users' needs.
    Right... the party line is IE6 is clunky and cluttered while IE7 is simple and
    streamlined. Obviously we shouldn't be comparing IE7 to IE6, we *should*
    be comparing the default IE7 interface to one that has been customized
    by the user to suit his or her preferences. Guess which one wins every
    time?
     
    YAH, Oct 20, 2006
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  16. dave

    BobAusT Guest

     
    BobAusT, Oct 20, 2006
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  17. dave

    schmidty169 Guest

    I use both, I like Firefox and the wife likes IE. I decided to give IE7 a
    try, well I don't like the command bar where it is, and likeing the menu bar
    I now have wasted space there that would so nicely hold the command bar. Yes
    there are add-ins for FF to sync up your favorites, and my favorite "plain
    old favorites" which lets you use your IE favorites in FF. Add in the menu
    editor and turn off the FF bookmarks and you have one set of favorites to use.
     
    schmidty169, Oct 20, 2006
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  18. dave

    SAM-R Guest

    The IE6 Toolbars do not exist in IE7. IE7 is based on Vista. If any of you
    plan on moving up to Vista, IE7 is a preview.
     
    SAM-R, Oct 20, 2006
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  19. dave

    dave Guest

    That's what I'm afraid of. I WAS looking forward to the upgrade to Vista.
    Now I'm not so sure...
     
    dave, Oct 20, 2006
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  20. dave

    Raistlin Guest

    IE6 interface is clunky???!!! WTH?? Mine is streamlined to only have exactly
    what iI need on it. I have almost full screen without going into full-screen
    mode!!!

    Raist
     
    Raistlin, Oct 20, 2006
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