Resize primary partition in Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Larry, Nov 21, 2007.

  1. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Hello,

    I have a Vaio with Vista that I just spent about 10 hours or so cleaning up
    crapware, etc. from. Now, Sony has a hidden 8GB recovery partition that I
    very much would like to reclaim. So I deleted the recovery partition using
    diskpart. Next I went on to try to expand/extend the primary partition, but
    that option is not available from the GUI and diskpart does not allow it
    either.

    I believe this is because the now deleted recovery partition was the first
    partition and the primary partition is on offset 8GB. In other words, the
    now unallocated space is not located after the primary partition.

    Next I tried to make a "Complete System Backup" to a USB drive and then
    delete the primary partition and create a new partition covering the full
    disk. But when I use the recovery DVD to restore the complete system
    backup, it also restores partition information, etc. so I am back to still
    not having a the first 8GB as part of the primary partition.

    Is there any tool out there that safely can expand a partition in Vista
    under these circumstances? Or a tool that makes a full system backup
    without requiring the same partition layout when restoring?

    Thanks,
    Larry
     
    Larry, Nov 21, 2007
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  2. Greetings Larry,
    You can try one of the many partition tools. Partition magic will allow you
    to resize the NTFS partitions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PartitionMagic

    The link also provides information regarding other, free tools, but they're
    not as easy to use.
     
    Mark Phillips, Nov 21, 2007
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  3. Larry

    ray Guest

    Suggest you try the 'gparted' Live CD - it should be able to do that for
    you.
     
    ray, Nov 21, 2007
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  4. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Suggest you try the 'gparted' Live CD - it should be able to do that for

    Thanks Mark & Ray, I'll check them out.

    Larry
     
    Larry, Nov 21, 2007
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  5. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Suggest you try the 'gparted' Live CD - it should be able to do that for
    Ray,

    Tried that. Did not work - gparted claimed disk needed "chkdsk -f" and then
    reboot twice, etc. This seems to be a known issue with gparted and Vista
    Business.

    I'd hate to spend $50-70 bucks for a one-time partitioning job, but maybe
    that's the only way (or I could just use the small 8GB partition for data, I
    guess).

    Larry
     
    Larry, Nov 22, 2007
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  6. Larry

    Wandering Guest

    For that kind of money you can buy another hard drive.
     
    Wandering, Nov 22, 2007
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  7. Larry

    jimmuh Guest

    That's odd. Sony's installation media used to give end users the option of
    restoring the original layout or altering it -- so that a clean installation
    of the OS was possible. If I were you I would contact Sony support and ask
    them for an installation disc which would allow a clean installation without
    the utilities partition (or whatever the heck they call it). They should make
    such a disc available for cost of media / shipping.

    The first thing I do with any consumer grade system is wipe the crud that
    the vendor put on there and start with a clean slate. If you haven't
    experienced a clean installation of Vista without all of the junk the vendors
    throw on there, you'd be amazed at how much better the operating system is
    without it.
     
    jimmuh, Nov 23, 2007
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  8. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Actually, I spoke to their support several times (including their 2nd level)
    and when I asked for how to eliminate the recovery partition, the tech told
    me I had to buy a retail Windows version - their recovery CDs will
    automatically re-create the partions and put all the junk back on. If they
    at least would have had the brains / thoughfulness to put the recovery
    partition after the primary, so that you could delete the recovery and grow
    the primary... I looked into throwing out Vista and installing XP instead,
    but many of the drivers for XP warns about "some features may not be
    available / work correctly"...

    I even tried Acronis True Image, hoping that I could restore a disk image to
    a larger partition, but it appears it either restores select files or the
    full disk (including partition table). I am amazed at how difficult it
    turned out to be to reclaim the space taken by recovery partition.

    Larry
     
    Larry, Nov 24, 2007
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  9. Larry

    jimmuh Guest

    I'm sorry to hear that. I think that's a really bad move on Sony's part. I
    have a couple of their video workstations that came with XP. The recovery
    discs allowed you to do either a "cruddy" installation or a clean
    installation.

    That said, I'm going to suggest that you call them back and demand / wheedle
    a little to be sure they don't have an alternative media supply. If not, then
    you might want to purchase an OEM version of Vista from a legitimate online
    source. That's a lot cheaper than the full or upgrade retail version. It
    would probably cost about the same as purchasing a commercial partitioning
    utility.

    To be frank, I think using a third party partitioning tool for something
    like this is a little nuts. I would always prefer to trust the partitioning
    tools that come with the OS. There are too many "features" on software like
    Partition Magic that can lead to trouble, if imprudently used. And how are
    you to know what's imprudent until you've tried it and botched it?

    ;)

    I hope you can find a sympathetic ear at Sony. They should at least be made
    aware that a paying customer is not satisfied with their current way of
    handling this. I was under the impression that MS required OEMs to make a
    relatively "clean" copy of the OS available to customers. In all cases of
    which I am aware, customers of various vendors have been able to get such
    copies upon request.
     
    jimmuh, Nov 24, 2007
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  10. Larry

    Chris Game Guest

    True Image will restore a partition image to a larger or smaller
    target space (provided it will fit obviously).
     
    Chris Game, Nov 24, 2007
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