Running DOS Games under Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Games' started by Wogerwabby, Jan 13, 2008.

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    PabloCruzio Guest

    Do what I did,

    get a KVM switch, and a small form factor (like XPC by shuttle) computer,
    with DOS, or Windows 98, or XP w/DOSBOX, etc.

    You could even get a decent used PC and Salvation Army or Goodwill for DOS.
    Why bother trying to get the new stuff to run it? Just keep a PC configured
    to run the old stuff. Simple enough. Full compatibility, no issues.

    PDK
     
    PabloCruzio, Feb 20, 2008
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    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    Yeah, I have an old DOS 486 in storage, complete with a SB16 and a Roland
    MT-32 Synth module (the card version, forget what it was called), 80meg HD,
    5.25" and 3.5" floppies, I love it. One of my oldest computers, next to my
    original Atari 800.

    God, I gotta get outta this business. :)
     
    Andy [YaYa], Feb 20, 2008
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    RobinDiscus! Guest

    NO! I installed VPC07 on my Home Premium, and said "You are not running a
    suitable OS." This did not happen when installing VPC07 with Win2K on my old
    XP.
     
    RobinDiscus!, Feb 28, 2008
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    Dave Guest

    Yes!
    It still works.
     
    Dave, Feb 28, 2008
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    qhard Guest

    I have some information about it from Czech Republick. Microsoft implemented
    into Windows Vista new drivers for graphic cards that is not compatible with
    any MS-DOS application and taht is not compatible with any 3Dfx OpenGL
    application. I wait that Microsoft improve it, because it is not possible
    install old graphic drivers from Windows XP or older and DosBOX it is not a
    good idea. DosBOX is not treatment from Microsoft and it slow down your
    computer very drastically.
     
    qhard, Mar 11, 2008
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    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    No S*it Sherlock, DOSBox is an EMULATOR, it emulates old hardware using new
    hardware combined with complex software routines. Yes, it runs slow, unless
    you have a Quad Core with a lot of CPU power, it will run slower than you'd
    expect it too.

    BUT, it is a PROGRAM, the rest of your system runs normally, and when you
    quit the program, like all other programs your system (should) return to
    normal.

    Old DOS Games + New Operating Systems/New Hardware = Sadness.

    http://dosbox.sourceforge.net

    Read the information there. A lot of DOS games run great under DOSBox, some
    do not. They actually have a list of which games work on their site
    somewhere. If you're comfortable working with DOS programs, then DOSBox
    should be easy for you to setup and get running. If you're not used to
    editing text files read their tutorials for help.

    There are other ways to get DOS games to work, Virtual PC 2007 isn't too bad
    if you don't plan to run heavy 3D games, but the sound emulation isn't that
    great. DOSBox actually emulates a good ole SB16 and GUS. You'll get better
    results with DOSBox.

    Respond here if you need help, but if you search around this newsgroup for
    DOSBox posts, or search Google you'll find more than enough information to
    get your old games running.

    Vista doesn't use new drivers, they simply moved the drivers from Kernal
    protected ram to User normal ram. Results are you don't have to reboot if
    your video driver crashes, but there are some compatibility issues with
    older XP drivers. Vista and XP never really ran DOS titles very well, mainly
    because PCs no longer use ISA audio cards and a lot of older routines were
    simply removed from Windows and todays PC hardware.

    Yes, keeping a fully functional Pentium with ISA versions of the Sound
    Blaster 16 or Gravis UltraSound is THE best way to ensure your old games
    keep working. Hard part is finding hardware that still works. I highly
    recommend checking sites like Craigslist.org or ebay.com for hardware. Good
    luck.

    -A.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Mar 11, 2008
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    qhard Guest

    Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
    compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
    future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
    and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
    use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
    impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
    priority.

    And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
    removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
    users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
    manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

    I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
    that this problem will be improved early.
     
    qhard, Mar 11, 2008
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    qhard Guest

    Thx for asking Wogerwabby. You can read text that is from Microsoft Windows
    Vista Home Premium CZ 32b. Text(in english): Filesystem FAT32 and FAT16 for
    DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98mWindows Millennium Edition and DOS. FAT is only
    one filesystem compatible with multiboot.

    If you want play DOS games you can boot from FDD or CD/DVD(special). Some
    DOS application can read NTFS but FAT16 or FAT32 is optional. You can use old
    mouse drivers(can be loaded if you are booting"cd mouse""mouse.com").

    Try http://bootdisk.com/ .

    Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
    compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
    future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
    and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
    use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
    impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
    priority.

    And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
    removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
    users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
    manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

    I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
    that this problem will be improved early.
     
    qhard, Mar 11, 2008
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    Cress Guest

    DOSBOX works great both Vista 32 and 64 bit O/S. In the DOSBOX install
    folder there is a readme file that addresses problems like the "\". The
    forward slash "/" will work as well.

    I'm hacking my way thru "Super league of Hoboken", boy does this bring back
    memories.
     
    Cress, Mar 24, 2008
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    bruno21101 Guest

    hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
    how to start a new topic so this is the closest i can find,its my son he
    plays downloaded online games,when he downloads them the go on the screen and
    they are covered by a shield and wont let him play them have tried all that
    we can think of with no joy can someone help please xx
     
    bruno21101, Mar 25, 2008
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    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    This is Usenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet), install a Usenet News Client (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client) on your computer, and connect to your ISP's news server (if you have one). The group were on now is "Microsoft.public.windows.vista.games". There are thousands of other topics out there too.

    OK, Usenet lesson end...

    As for your problem, it'll be easier for us if we knew what game your son was trying to play (be specific, include a link to the game if necessary). And when you say a "Shield" do you mean like a medieval shield, something a knight might carry around, or is the screen being "blocked" by something.

    We will also need the make and model of your computer, look on the computer itself, and if it's got a manufacturer and model number, include that in your response.

    Best-a-luck, welcome to the net.
    -A.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Mar 25, 2008
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    bruno21101 Guest

    and might now no whats wrong is it that ins not vista ready :( ?? its a
    shame to he had saved up all his birthday and christmas money to buy this new
    computer at a cost of £800 especially for gameing quad core or so on ,is
    there no way round about this if that is the issue?or does he just have to
    wait till it becomes vista compatable ty in advance xx
     
    bruno21101, Mar 26, 2008
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    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    Well, I went to the Codemasters site and found the tech support forum..

    http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=600

    There's nothing indicating that Vista doesn't work with this game. There is one issue where if you are having problems logging on (where you enter your username/password) that you should turn off UAC in Vista:

    -quote-
    1. Click on the Windows Start button -> Control Panel -> select “User Accounts Iconâ€
    2. Select “User Accountsâ€
    3. On the User Accounts screen, select “Turn User Account control on or offâ€
    4. Uncheck – “Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computerâ€
    5. Select OK
    6. Follow prompt to Restart PC
    7. Run Archlord
    ** These settings will be saved even after the computer reboot so does not need to be re-set. **
    ** Please use this method to re-configure your PC after any system updates **
    -end-quote-

    You said you have an HP, but HP has literally HUNDREDS of different PCs in their support area. Does your HP have a model number? It's usually on the front of the case, it says something like "HP Media Center m1234n" the last part is the important part.

    I would say you just need to update your computers drivers. New hardware, new OS, new problems being constantly fixed, if you don't keep your drivers up to date (even on a new computer) you might run into strange problems like this.

    I don't know what you mean by "Security" shield either. Is it like a pop-up message that appears on the screen, or is it just like a black box or something else?

    -A.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Mar 26, 2008
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    PerryMason Guest

    DosBox is absolutly great... As I know it simply overloads the CPU with
    a "few" cycles, so the games won't run wild on you machine. You can
    further adjust that with the function keys. I have tried Laser Squad,
    Aethra Chronicles, Prehistorik, Prince of Persia, Blood and Duke Nukem
    3D. All running just fine even from Vista. I absolutely suggest using
    the most recent version. The earlier ones seem a bit bugged...


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    PerryMason, Mar 27, 2008
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    ian Guest

    what or where can i found media/license key
     
    ian, Apr 1, 2008
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    Storm Guest

    Best way to configure DosBox:

    Open dosbox.conf with a text editor and find these settings and change
    them to the settings I have them set to:


    Code:
     
    Storm, Apr 1, 2008
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  17. You don't need dynamic core with wolf3d.
     
    ronald.phillips, Apr 1, 2008
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    Storm Guest

    I know but I found it to be the best way to configure it for my system.
     
    Storm, Apr 2, 2008
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    Dan Lingman Guest

    The license key for whatever OS you're installing. Obviously, DOS doesn't
    need such a thing, but if you're installing XP into a virtual machine, it's
    just like installing it on a real machine.

    Dan.
     
    Dan Lingman, Apr 7, 2008
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    inst Guest

    some software can't run with vista..but in xp it can run..should i do
    adjustment to make the software run at vista.
     
    inst, Apr 14, 2008
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