SBS 2000, AD, single domain & offsite webspace.

Discussion in 'DNS Server' started by Eric92866, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. Eric92866

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    I have a single SBS 2000 Server, using Active Directory for the primary
    domain (i.e. domain.com) The internet name servers have my A record for the
    domain pointing offisite to a static ip for the website hosting space.
    Normally i just create an A record internally to forward all www requests to
    the offsite webspace. This will not work as the hyperlinks in the pages that
    do not specify the www in the URL's (i.e. http://domain.com/default.htm
    instead of http://www.ehlonline.com/default.htm ) try to resolve internally,
    and the end result is "the website doesnt work in the office but it works
    fine offsite".

    How would I modify the internal DNS not to resolve the same domain
    requests(which is shared with the internet) but not cause issues with AD,
    Exchange, and Outlook Web Access?

    Thanks,
     
    Eric92866, Dec 23, 2005
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  2. Unfortunately, this puts you between a rock and a hard place, you have no
    choice but to fix the links using the www or fix them to use relative links.
    Relative links are better because they follow what ever domain name is on
    the web site. So, you could have multiple domains on a single web site.

    It is imperative that the domain name on AD clients resolve to the IP
    address of the domain controller so group policies work.



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    what if i moved the website to ehlonline.net and went into godaddy dns and
    use the domain forwarding service to forward all traffic to ehlonline.com?
    That way the machines in the office will only be resolving the initial
    www.ehlonline.com request, but from there on all the URL links would actually
    be ehonline.net. If I could get access the webspace files and change the
    links myself I would, so I am looking for a viable solution.

    Would that be a feasble long term solution?
     
    Eric92866, Dec 23, 2005
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  4. This would not take a DNS solution, if you posted the correct domain, I've
    looked at the source code and regardless of if you access the site by a .net
    name or a .com name, some of the links are coded with the full URL. A web
    site redirection won't work unless you do a page by page redirection. e.g.
    http://ehonline.com/page1.htm would have to redirect to
    http://www.ehonline.com/page1.htm etc.etc. until every page in the site is
    redirected to its relative page using www.ehonline.com or ehonline.net.
    Plus, you would have to create this site on your domain controllers because
    ehonline.com will resolve to your DCs IP. Even changing the domain name the
    site is accessed by won't help because of the links.


    If you are going to go through the trouble to change the links to
    http://ehonline.net/pagename.htm, you should have them changed to relative
    links. If you use relative links the links and pages will work with any
    domain name applied to the site. Some of the links are relative links, the
    problem links seem to all be in the menu image across the top of the page.

    Of course there is also the option of renaming the AD domain name to
    something other than ehonline.com.



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    Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP], Dec 23, 2005
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    Kevin, what about redirecting in IIS on the DC?

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    Ace Fekay [MVP], Dec 23, 2005
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  6. Ace Fekay [MVP]
    That's what I was talking about, but the problem is it will only work for
    the Home page, because the site uses full URLs in the links. e.g.
    http://ehonline.com/page.htm So, when he clicks his first link it will send
    him back to the Home page, unless each page has its own redirection. Which
    can be done in IIS. However, IMO, that would be asking to much of the DC to
    do. If the site used relative links it wouldn't be a problem.

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    Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP], Dec 24, 2005
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    I see what you're saying. If ehlonline.com is used initially, all the links
    revert to that instead of back to www prefix, so hence he would need to have
    the whole site setup literally on the DC's IIS.

    Maybe instruct the users to type in ehlonline, then hit and hold <ctrl> then
    enter where it will auto add the www and .com instead of the other way.
    Unfortunate this is one of the major drawbacks of a split-zone design.

    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MVP], Dec 24, 2005
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