SBS 2003 joining existing DOMAIN and workaround this issue!

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Sava jurisic, Oct 6, 2004.

  1. Sava jurisic

    Sava jurisic Guest

    Hi All,

    I have read a number of posts indicating that it is "impossible" to join SBS
    to the existing Win2K/Win2003 domain;

    I have tried "dcpromo" --> demote ---> join as the member server --> promote
    to DC; It did fail with many many errors!!

    Now, what are my options?

    I have a fairly small (2 sites with ~50 users) environment: Windows 2000
    Server running as the Terminal Service, File/Print server and AntiVirus
    server

    I want to add SBS and use it as FILE/MAIL server; Re-configuring existing
    two servers and domain would be just a HUGE pain and i am really looking
    for alternatives;

    MANY THANKS,

    Sava
     
    Sava jurisic, Oct 6, 2004
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  2. Hi Sava -

    You've got to do this at the right time in the setup. Load the Windows
    portion of SBS, but before you continue with the SBS integrated setup, join
    the server to the existing domain, dcpromo and transfer FSMO roles to this
    box. Then continue with the SBS integrated setup. When it's all said and
    done, you should have SBS on your existing domain and holding all of the
    roles that SBS wants.

    --

    Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP
    SBS ROCKS!

    www.msmvps.com/cgross
    www.gosbs.org
     
    Chad A. Gross [SBS Community Member], Oct 6, 2004
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  3. Hi Sava

    I am sorry but there is no way. SBS MUST be the PDC at the root of the
    Forest and have the FSMO role with no trusts. You can join the other servers
    as member servers and BDC but there is no way to do what you ask. see
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/generalfaq.mspx

    Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server is designed for partners who
    want to deliver a server solution based on Windows Server 2003 as part of
    their product offering. It provides the same version of Windows Server 2003
    that is used by Windows Small Business Server 2003, but it has none of the
    added features included in the standard edition or premium edition of
    Windows Small Business Server 2003.

    Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server has the following
    restrictions:

    . Only one computer in a domain can be running Windows Server 2003 for
    Small Business Server.

    . Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server must be the root of
    the Active Directory® forest.

    . Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server cannot trust any other
    domains.

    . A Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server domain cannot have
    any child domains.

    . Each additional server must have a Windows Server 2003 for Small
    Business Server client access license (CAL). You can use CALs for each user
    or for each device.
     
    Frank McCallister SBS MVP, Oct 6, 2004
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  4. Hi Sava

    Maybe I misunderstood what you wanted to do. What Chad says is accurate if
    you are willing to accept the transfer of the control to the SBS.
     
    Frank McCallister SBS MVP, Oct 6, 2004
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  5. yes, you can't join a complete SBS to an existing domain, but you can do all
    sorts of things if you do them at the right time and in the right way.

    My one concern with this and similar questions is the issue of 'support'. MS
    'support' only clean install or approved migration.

    I'm a little concerned about Sava's mention of '2 sites with ~50 users'. If
    this is two physical locations we're OK but I haven't played with joining
    SBS to a multiple 'site' AD domain.
     
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Oct 7, 2004
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  6. Sava jurisic

    Sava Jurisic Guest

    Hi All!
    Thanks for your prompt reply; The operations failed and
    here are the steps I performed:

    1. Install 'clean' SBS 2003 Standard
    2. Join the existing DOMAIN as member server
    3. Run dcpromo -->failed; The error message is:
    " The version of the Activer Directory Schema of the
    source forest is not compatible with the version of the
    Active Directory on this computer"

    The existing environment is running off the Windows 2000
    Server Standard ed.

    I did most of suggestions, but I get to the point in SBS
    Integrated setup where I have a WARNING saying "This
    Computer is configures as a Domain Member Server"

    It was suggested to run Adprep CLI tool which could not be
    found on the server!

    Please advice!

    Many thanks,
    Sava
     
    Sava Jurisic, Oct 7, 2004
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  7. ADPrep is on the 2003 CD

    you must prep both the forest and domain of a 2000 AD before promoting a
    2003 server into a DC role.

    Search support.microsoft.com

    Hi All!
    Thanks for your prompt reply; The operations failed and
    here are the steps I performed:

    1. Install 'clean' SBS 2003 Standard
    2. Join the existing DOMAIN as member server
    3. Run dcpromo -->failed; The error message is:
    " The version of the Activer Directory Schema of the
    source forest is not compatible with the version of the
    Active Directory on this computer"

    The existing environment is running off the Windows 2000
    Server Standard ed.

    I did most of suggestions, but I get to the point in SBS
    Integrated setup where I have a WARNING saying "This
    Computer is configures as a Domain Member Server"

    It was suggested to run Adprep CLI tool which could not be
    found on the server!

    Please advice!

    Many thanks,
    Sava
     
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Oct 7, 2004
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  8. 278875 Cannot Promote a Windows Server 2003 Domain Controller into a Windows
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=278875

    Basically, run "adprep /forestprep" and "adprep /domainprep" from the SBS
    2003 CD #\i386 folder on the Windows 2000 DC.

    Chris Puckett, MCSE
    Microsoft Small Business Server Support


    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --------------------
     
    Chris Puckett [MSFT], Oct 7, 2004
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