Server keeps shutting down

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by Altair Brito, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. Altair Brito

    Altair Brito Guest

    Thanks.

    I'm kinda new to this 2003 server. What is the FSMO and how do I set it up
    on the SBS. Is there a link that you can provide for me please or a couple
    of HOW TO lines..

    Best Regards,
    Altair
     
    Altair Brito, Oct 24, 2006
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  2. Altair Brito

    T. Uranjek Guest

    Hi!

    There are five Flexible Single Master Operations (FSMO) roles (also known as
    operations master roles), they are set up by default on your SBS computer.
    Forest wide roles are Schema Master and Domain Naming Master and domain wide
    roles are PDC emulator, RID Master and Infrastructure Master.

    More info: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/w2k3/W2K3_FSMO.htm

    HTH

    Toni
     
    T. Uranjek, Oct 24, 2006
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    See the replies to your previous and related thread in here.
     
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 24, 2006
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  4. Altair Brito

    Altair Brito Guest

    OK.

    So this is what I understand and am planning on doing:

    -Only one of the SBS Servers can remain on the network (the Exchange
    Server): I will install Enterprise on the the Storage server that is
    currently SBS
    -This SBS server (Exchange) must be the first DC on the list
    . So I will DCPROMO the other server (enterprise server) and
    . Check so that the Exchange SBS server is the first DC on the list
    -Before I DCPROMO the Enterprise Servers I set ALL FSMO roles to the
    Exchange Server using NTDSUTIL

    If these are not correct please indicate me on the right track. This would
    be a lot easier if I had a copy of Exchange Enterprise Edition.

    QUESTION: Being that the current Enterprise Server is the MAIN server on the
    network, if I DCPROMO if will this cause any problems..? If so, how would I
    go about fixing the issue?

    Regards,
    Altair
     
    Altair Brito, Oct 24, 2006
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    Please see my reply in the previous thread and let's continue in there.
     
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 24, 2006
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  6. Altair Brito

    Altair Brito Guest

    Hello.

    I looked at your other reply thus the reason why I posted the step-by-step
    procedure of what I was planning on doing. If there's another thread that
    you posted that I haven't seen please let me know where it's at because I
    believe I saw them all. Sorry for my ignorance about this, but I really
    appreciate your help.

    Best regards,
    Altair
     
    Altair Brito, Oct 24, 2006
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    But you didn't post it as a reply in that thread, which is what I'd asked.
    :) This sort of thing can get very confusing....

    http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    OK. I'm quoting myself & your previous post below:
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    You can't do that, sorry....
    Sounds like you bought the wrong products - if you wanted SBS, you'd have
    had to install it either *first* - or properly installed it into your
    existing AD domain as per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453. But you
    can have only one SBS box in the domain, and if you have one of these in use
    'just for storage' you'd probably have been better off buying a NAS box for
    that.



    <snip>



    What's the reason you've got SBS in this picture at all, btw?
    OK - but just pull that box off the network for now.


    Yes. However,


    Well - wait. How was this SBS installed? Was it installed into the existing
    domain using the method mentioned in the MS article I provided the link to?

    Hmmm - I'm not sure how that's relevant!

    It's really hard for me to see how you're going to do this, as I don't know
    how you installed SBS.

    I'm going to suggest that you post a brand-new message in
    microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs. Be *very* concise and explain what
    you've got, how it was all installed.... also mention how many
    users/desktops you have, and the reason you're using SBS as well as the
    other servers.

    Pull back a bit and look at the desired goal. You can have SBS and
    additional servers, but SBS will not play nicely in an existing domain
    unless you do things right - and I would suspect that the setup was not done
    right, or you wouldn't have ended up with two SBS boxes on the same domain.
    Depending on the size of your user/computer base, you may actually be better
    off starting over from scratch....I know that's probably not what you wanted
    to hear, but it's probable.



    <snip>
     
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 24, 2006
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  8. Windows 2003 Small Business Server Shuts Down Unexpectedly; Events 1001,
    1013 and 1014 are Logged:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555087/en-us

    There can be only one SBS in a Domain it must be a domain controller and
    hold all five FSMO roles and does not support external trusts.

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    Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP], Oct 25, 2006
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  9. Altair Brito

    Altair Brito Guest

    Ok, good.

    I've gone to the link and that's exactly my problem. Now to resolve this I
    need to add another Domain (lets say exchange.tecnicil.com) to my network
    and make the Exchange SBS Server the first and only Domain Controller in
    that domain. Correct? By doing that it gets all the FSMO Roles allowing it
    not to shut down every 60mn.

    QUESTION:
    Once this is done, when I create a new domain on the same network, will I be
    able to use the same user from the current domain (sede.tecnicil.com) on the
    Exchange server on the new domain (exchange.tecnicil.com). Will the same
    users be able to logon to sede.tecnicil.com and retreave their emails
    through exchange.tecnicil.com..? If so, just send me a YES! If not how would
    I solve that issue without having to add all the users to the new domain so
    that they are able to get the mail.

    Thanks in advance,
    Altair
     
    Altair Brito, Oct 25, 2006
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    <sigh> Did you see my last reply in the other 'leg' of this thread? I
    explained how to introduce SBS into an existing domain, and asked you some
    questions about your current installation/config. SBS does not support
    trusts between domains, and you do not want to end up with two separate AD
    domains.

    You've got two posts going in this group on this topic, and another thread
    going in another newsgroup. I realize you are probably new to usenet, but
    this is called multiposting, and it is a huge waste of everyone's time -
    yours included! It makes people uninclined to help you, and that's not a
    good thing.

    <snip>
     
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 25, 2006
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  11. Altair Brito

    Altair Brito Guest

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    I apologize for the inconvenience but I don't' understand what you mean. I
    clicked on "REPLY TO NEWSGROUP" and wrote the message. Is this the wrong way
    to do it. I am on a MAC and I'm using Entourage. I haven't seen anything
    else that you have posted other than this:
    From that I wrote the email above asking the question of how I would go
    about fixing this issue then. Known that there can only be one SBS server in
    a domain, and knowing that all my users are current logging in through an
    Enterprise Server (which is our MAIN Server), also knowing that I only have
    Exchange 2003 for SBS (assuming that this will be installed on the SBS) and
    that all my users are currently using their email through the SBS, how would
    I go about fixing my problem?

    Once again I apologize for not experience on how do this, but I really need
    help fixing this.

    Best regards,
    Altair
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    Altair Brito, Oct 25, 2006
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    Did you notice that you posted this question twice in this group? "Server
    keeps shutting down" - (this one) and "Server shuts down" ? This is in
    addition to the other newsgroup you posted to. When you need to post to
    multiple groups, crosspost to them all in a single message, so you don't end
    up with things all over the place. I don't use Entourage, but if it can't do
    this properly, find something that will. Sorry to belabor this, but it's
    gotten insanely complicated for a simple question! And I truly do not intend
    to be mean, or to be pedantic.

    Ah, but I didn't post that. That was from someone else.
    I *did* write that, in one of these myriad threads :)
    This isn't email. It's usenet. You might want to look at a better news
    client than Entourage....I


    OK. So, to address your actual issue again ....

    I'm not sure why you have SBS, rather than W2003/E2003, given that you
    already had a W2003 active directory. It probably wasn't the right choice
    for you....it certainly wasn't installed properly if it was what you needed.
    To install SBS into an existing AD domain, you'd use the methods here:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453.

    Bottom line - if you want to integrate everything, you're going to have to
    make a decision now, to scrap one of your AD domains - which one, is up to
    you.

    Which would be less convienent to recreate? I'm presuming all the
    workstations belong to the non-SBS domain, right? If so, I'd export
    everyone's mailbox data to PST (use exmerge on the Exchange box, and use
    Outlook to export any public folders to PST). Then flatten the SBS box
    entirely, and follow the KB article above to introduce SBS into your
    existing domain, so everyone has only one login/account/mailbox/whatnot. And
    that way you don't have to touch your desktops - although you will want to
    do some after-the-fact arranging of them into the SBS OUs using ADUC.

    You're also going to have to scrap the other SBS box (the one that you
    mentioned using for storage only).

    Remember - you can have multiple DCs in an SBS domain, as long as the SBS
    box is the boss. And no trusts, and only one SBS box.

    I hope this has helped somewhat,and that you've taken no offense at my
    words.

    If you have more SBS questions, post them in
    microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs - and again, you might want to look at
    other newsreaders for the Mac - Thunderbird is free, and might work a lot
    better for you. Best o' luck!
     
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange], Oct 26, 2006
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