Set-Top Box and Windows Media Center Remote Control Problem

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Miles, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. Miles

    Miles Guest

    Hello, I'm hoping someone can help. I have AT&T U-verse, my STB is a
    Motorola VIP-1200, and I’m using Windows Vista Home Premium with Media
    Center. I'm able to set up the STB to my TV-Card in my computer. I can see
    the TV through Media Center, the problem I'm having is the remote controls.
    I have both IR receiver and transmitter (blaster) cable hooked up, the RED on
    my STB the Black on the wall. I train media center 1 - 0 Channel up and
    Down. Then I use the media center remote, the IR receiver (black) picks up
    the signal and shows on the screen the new channel, however it does not
    change the channel on the STB, I've move the IR blaster to every spot on the
    STB. I have run the setup over and over again and fix. Do you think the
    Motorola VIP1200 has a proprietary signal? Help Thanks
     
    Miles, Jan 30, 2008
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  2. Miles

    Jaime Guest

    Since you clipped all of the original post, I'm not sure how we are supposed
    to know what the problem was, that you have also.
     
    Jaime, Jun 17, 2008
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  3. Miles

    S.Sengupta Guest

    And what's that problem???

    regards,
    S.Sengupta[MS-MVP]
     
    S.Sengupta, Jun 17, 2008
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  4. Miles

    Barb Bowman Guest

    Comcast does not install TV Tuners. If you have an ATI Wonder
    Digital Cable Tuner, they would come and install a cablecard (there
    is a slot in these tuners). Comcast does not supply the ATI DCT.
    They probably think you need a cable card.

    If you have an analog tuner and were running without a set top box,
    you need a digital tuner adapter. This may be what they are
    installing. See
    http://digitalmediaphile.com/index.php/tips-tricks-how-tos/comcast-dta-mce-setup-steps/


    Barb Bowman
    MS-MVP
    http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
    http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
     
    Barb Bowman, Aug 22, 2009
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  5. Miles

    Barb Bowman Guest

    Barb Bowman, Aug 23, 2009
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  6. Miles

    Jaime Guest

    Unfortunately, there may still be some problems.

    To receive digital directly, you can receive: Over-The-Air, Clear QAM
    digital directly through the Comcast pipe, or use a Cable-Card Tuner in your
    PC.

    The problem with the first two options is how many stations you will
    receive; OTA is limited by your area broadcasters, location, antenna, etc.
    and Clear QAM is limited by what your local provider decides to send down
    the pipe in an unencrypted format. So far in Orlando with Bright House (TW),
    I receive all the same station as the standard analog plus about additional
    10 channels in Clear QAM, but I have heard that some areas get less than
    standard cable in unencrypted digital.

    The problem with the Cable-Card option is that these can only be purchased
    as part of purpose-built system -- they can not be added to an existing
    system (unless it was originally designed for the CableCard) and you still
    have to pay Comcast "rent" for the card.

    Digital tuners are pretty cheap, so it might be worth the investment to see
    what you will get for free to avoid the set top box.
     
    Jaime, Aug 31, 2009
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  7. Miles

    Curious Guest

    It would potentially make more sense to use the TV application that came
    with or is available for tuner from the tuner card manufacturer to receive
    clear QAM analog and digital from your cable company then to try and use
    MediaCenter. Win 7 Media Center has built in support ClearQAM whereas
    previous releases of MC do not.
     
    Curious, Aug 31, 2009
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  8. Miles

    Barb Bowman Guest

    If it were me and if I only wanted unencrypted Basic channels, I'd
    go with Windows 7 and a QAM tuner if you have Comcast. At least for
    now..

    Barb Bowman
    MS-MVP
    http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
    http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
     
    Barb Bowman, Aug 31, 2009
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  9. Miles

    CSM1 Guest

    The 'sticky' IR is the transmitter that transmitts the MCE (Media Center
    Edition) commands to the settop box. Position on the STB is critical. It
    allows MCE to change the channel on the settop box.

    No, it does not block the cable or the remote that came with the STB.

    The jack 1 or 2, takes some experimenting to determine which jack is
    correct. Communication is from MCE to the Settop box's IR receiver.

    Start at jack 1 run the MCE setup, If the channel changes on the STB,
    you have the correct jack. MCE has a choice in the Remote setup to try
    the other jack.

    The learning is to learn the correct codes to send for your Settop box.

    MCE then should be able to send the correct code for changing the
    channel on the stb to the selected channel.

    If MCE can change the channel you can set up unattended recording.

    How do you know the learning is not working? If the IR 'bug' on the
    stb's IR receiver is flashing, then learning probably worked. Move the
    IR bug around on the front of the STB. Find the "sweet" spot.
     
    CSM1, Sep 23, 2009
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  10. Miles

    Barb Bowman Guest

    I wrote this about MCE 2005 and dual set top boxes, but the process
    is the same for a single box.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mce/expert/bowman_dualtuners.mspx


    Barb Bowman
    MS-MVP
    http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
    http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
     
    Barb Bowman, Sep 23, 2009
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  11. Miles

    Jaime Guest

    Just to verify, you are using the IR blaster that came with the MC Remote
    kit, not one from the Comcast box?

    I don't use the Blasters, but as I recall the double-stick didn't cover the
    entire back side.
     
    Jaime, Sep 23, 2009
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  12. Miles

    Jaime Guest

    I can't guarantee that is the issue, but probably worth a try just to make
    sure

    Although they are somewhat interchangeable, not all blasters are the same.
     
    Jaime, Sep 24, 2009
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  13. I have a couple of RF remote controls (not related to MCE) that use
    blasters, and they are not interchangeable.

    They use different plugs, but using adapters to mate them to the
    receivers doesn't help.

    I believe that I did verify via ohmmeter that the polarities matched
    before I tried them, but it was several years ago, so I'm not sure...

    Wait - I just remembered! The polarities didn't match, and for my tests
    I made adapters to reverse them, but it didn't help.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 24, 2009
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  14. The hard part about USB cables (I have a rat's nest of them too) is
    that the older ones are not usable in USB2, and it's hard to be sure
    what you've got.

    I now throw away or recycle all of the cables that don't explicitly say
    USB2 or High-Speed USB.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 25, 2009
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  15. Miles

    Barb Bowman Guest

    Barb Bowman, Sep 25, 2009
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    I have a similar issue - hope someone can suggest a fix. I have a brand new AW series sony vaio laptop. It came with a AVerMedia Volar Max tv tuner. It also came with a Media Center Remote Control.

    It did not come with an IR receiver for the remote control - at least not one that plugs in via USB and has an IR port to plug an IR emitter in. I've hunted all over the computer and I don't see an IR port anwhere.

    The remote that came with the laptop will change the channels if I set up the tv tuner as cable without a settop box - and I'm able to get a signal and everything is fine.

    But, I want to be able to "record" programs that I have saved in my stb/dvr so I can clear up some space - but whenever I try to configure the tv signal as being connected through a set top box I can't seem to make it work - it says ir hardware not detected.

    Do I have to buy another remote that comes with an ir receiver just to make this work?
     
    ksdkomo, Oct 3, 2009
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  17. Nice phrase, that last one :)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Oct 13, 2009
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  18. Miles

    Boxerdogs3 Guest

    Hi ,
    I have been trying to figure this out for a week now can someone please
    help greatly appreciated ? I have Dell Xps Gen 5 Desktop with built in
    Emuzed Dual
    Tv tuner and have been trying to figure out how to set it up To my Comcast
    Box (Pace TDC577X Sd Dvr) (Only 1 Comcast box) no top box , I had the cable
    hooked up from the
    comcast box to my desktop and threw Media Center setup I saw Tv picture , but
    when it comes to the option to change channels it Will not change the
    channels threw the Media Center Xp Controller. I don't know what I'm doing
    wrong any
    answers greatley appreciated thank you .
     
    Boxerdogs3, Nov 11, 2009
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  19. Miles

    Barb Bowman Guest

    I don't understand what you are trying to say. You mention a Pace
    DVR and Only 1 Comcast box, and then "no top box".

    You have two tuner inputs. What exactly is connected to each.
    Do you have an internal/external IR eHome receiver and a Media
    Center remote control?

    Barb Bowman
    MS-MVP
    http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
    http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
     
    Barb Bowman, Nov 11, 2009
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  20. Miles

    Gene Guest

    Barb - this is a great article. All the details are great. I have an HP
    Z560 MCE running XP MCE 2005. It has dual tuners but only one coaxial-in
    port so I'm just trying to get one of the Pace DTA's you show in your article
    to work for now.

    The entire process seems fine except controlling the channel changing. I
    can't get the Media Center to recognize the remote codes automatically, nor
    if I try each Pace model listed.

    I read elsewhere that these new Pace boxes run off an XMP protocol which XP
    MCE is not programmed for (and perhaps Microsoft never will provide that as
    an update).

    Can you tell me if you have tried or heard reported that the Pace DTA can be
    controlled by an XP MCE? Any other tip for this old PC?

    Thanks in advance
     
    Gene, Nov 24, 2009
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