Sharing printer on XP machine w/Vista machine

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by Hula Baloo, Mar 4, 2007.

  1. Hula Baloo

    Hula Baloo Guest

    OK, I've got 3 PCs as follows:
    PC1 - Runs XP Media Edition with two printers attached & shared
    PC1 - Runs XP Home Edition - uses the printers on PC1 via sharing.
    PC3 - Runs Vista Business Edition. Shares files & folders just fine,
    but for the life of me I cannot get it to add either printer that's on PC1.
    I've spent hours pouring over hundreds (thousands?) of posts here.
    Initially I was having sharing files & folders too, but once I added
    "everybody" to the permissions list on Vista, all my shared files
    problems went away. This was cause for great jubilation and
    celebration. :) However the positive atmosphere was once again
    stiffled when I went back and tried to access the printers on PC1 again.
    Again I was totally foiled, and remain so.
    The printers I'm using are (1) A Samsung ML-1210 laser printer, (2) A
    Canon Pixima IP1600 inkjet; both connected via USB on PC1. I connected
    the Samsung directly into PC3 to be sure I had a valid driver there & it
    worked just fine when directly connected. But when I reconnected it
    back to PC1 (which runs XP), I just couldn't access it. If I go to
    Control Panel -> Printers with Vista, I can click Add Printer and
    Network Printer and it successfully finds the two printers on PC1.
    However as soon as I click on one of their icons and click NEXT, I get
    the following two popups:
    "Connecting to ML-1200 on GT4010", then a second later
    " Windows cannot connect to the printer, access is denied".
    I've turned off the firewalls on both PC1 & PC3, and tried all kinds of
    changes on the Vista PC3 including:
    - Setting up an administrator ID on the Vista PC to match that on the XP
    machine
    - Changing the network to PUBLIC, then back to PRIVATE,
    - Turning off TCPiv6
    - Installing XP fix KB922120
    - Turning "password protected sharing" on and off.
    - Network discovery ON and OFF.
    - Of course all the above was with Vista's File Sharing, Printer
    Sharing, and Public Folder Sharing, turned on.
    - I tried downloading Network Magic, but two successive attempts ended
    in errors.
    COULD SOME WISE PERSON PLEASE HELP?! Many thanks in advance - this
    is driving me crazy!
     
    Hula Baloo, Mar 4, 2007
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  2. Hula Baloo

    Good News! Guest

    You'll need a Vista driver. The XP machine does not have a Vista driver.
    Get a Vista driver.

    : OK, I've got 3 PCs as follows:
    : PC1 - Runs XP Media Edition with two printers attached & shared
    : PC1 - Runs XP Home Edition - uses the printers on PC1 via sharing.
    : PC3 - Runs Vista Business Edition. Shares files & folders just fine,
    : but for the life of me I cannot get it to add either printer that's on
    PC1.
    : I've spent hours pouring over hundreds (thousands?) of posts here.
    : Initially I was having sharing files & folders too, but once I added
    : "everybody" to the permissions list on Vista, all my shared files
    : problems went away. This was cause for great jubilation and
    : celebration. :) However the positive atmosphere was once again
    : stiffled when I went back and tried to access the printers on PC1 again.
    : Again I was totally foiled, and remain so.
    : The printers I'm using are (1) A Samsung ML-1210 laser printer, (2) A
    : Canon Pixima IP1600 inkjet; both connected via USB on PC1. I connected
    : the Samsung directly into PC3 to be sure I had a valid driver there & it
    : worked just fine when directly connected. But when I reconnected it
    : back to PC1 (which runs XP), I just couldn't access it. If I go to
    : Control Panel -> Printers with Vista, I can click Add Printer and
    : Network Printer and it successfully finds the two printers on PC1.
    : However as soon as I click on one of their icons and click NEXT, I get
    : the following two popups:
    : "Connecting to ML-1200 on GT4010", then a second later
    : " Windows cannot connect to the printer, access is denied".
    : I've turned off the firewalls on both PC1 & PC3, and tried all kinds of
    : changes on the Vista PC3 including:
    : - Setting up an administrator ID on the Vista PC to match that on the XP
    : machine
    : - Changing the network to PUBLIC, then back to PRIVATE,
    : - Turning off TCPiv6
    : - Installing XP fix KB922120
    : - Turning "password protected sharing" on and off.
    : - Network discovery ON and OFF.
    : - Of course all the above was with Vista's File Sharing, Printer
    : Sharing, and Public Folder Sharing, turned on.
    : - I tried downloading Network Magic, but two successive attempts ended
    : in errors.
    : COULD SOME WISE PERSON PLEASE HELP?! Many thanks in advance - this
    : is driving me crazy!
    :
     
    Good News!, Mar 4, 2007
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  3. Hula Baloo

    PTravel Guest

    This can be a number of things. Most likely, you do not have permissions on
    the XP machine to access any shares. Make sure your user account on the XP
    machine includes "Remote Access" (Administrator isn't enough). Make sure
    the printer is shared (you have to turn on sharing for each printer
    individually). When installing the printer from Vista make sure that UAC is
    turned on.
     
    PTravel, Mar 5, 2007
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  4. Hula Baloo

    Hula Baloo Guest

    I believe I mentioned in my original note that I connected the
    printer to the Vista machine, installed a Vista-compatible driver, and
    got the printer running when locally attached, then tried again to
    access it via the original (XP connected) configuration. If the printer
    works when locally attached to the Vista machine, wouldn't that mean it
    had the driver it needed?
     
    Hula Baloo, Mar 5, 2007
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  5. Hula Baloo

    Hula Baloo Guest

    PTravel, thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think XP Media Center
    (or Home) supports permissions, does it? If so, I'd need to find out
    how to set 'em. I finally got Network Magic downloaded & installed on
    both PCs, and it was a breeze after that. I don't know what it did to
    make it work, but it's working now just fine with both remotely shared
    printers. Count me as another satisfied Network Magic customer who'd
    like to shoot whoever the clever devils were at MS who made this such a
    harrang!
     
    Hula Baloo, Mar 5, 2007
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  6. Hula Baloo

    Good News! Guest

    Hmmm, not sure. I think it might still be trying to install the driver from
    the XP machine.
    Computers are dumb. :p


    : I believe I mentioned in my original note that I connected the
    : printer to the Vista machine, installed a Vista-compatible driver, and
    : got the printer running when locally attached, then tried again to
    : access it via the original (XP connected) configuration. If the printer
    : works when locally attached to the Vista machine, wouldn't that mean it
    : had the driver it needed?
    :
    : Good News! wrote:
    : > You'll need a Vista driver. The XP machine does not have a Vista
    driver.
    : > Get a Vista driver.
    : >
    : > : > : OK, I've got 3 PCs as follows:
    : > : PC1 - Runs XP Media Edition with two printers attached & shared
    : > : PC2 - Runs XP Home Edition - uses the printers on PC1 via sharing.
    : > : PC3 - Runs Vista Business Edition. Shares files & folders just fine,
    : > : but for the life of me I cannot get it to add either printer that's on
    : > PC1.
    : > : I've spent hours pouring over hundreds (thousands?) of posts here.
    : > : Initially I was having sharing files & folders problems too, but once
    I added
    : > : "everybody" to the permissions list on Vista, all my shared files
    : > : problems went away. This was cause for great jubilation and
    : > : celebration. :) However the positive atmosphere was once again
    : > : stiffled when I went back and tried to access the printers on PC1
    again.
    : > : Again I was totally foiled, and remain so.
    : > : The printers I'm using are (1) A Samsung ML-1210 laser printer, (2)
    A
    : > : Canon Pixima IP1600 inkjet; both connected via USB on PC1. I
    connected
    : > : the Samsung directly into PC3 to be sure I had a valid driver there &
    it
    : > : worked just fine when directly connected. But when I reconnected it
    : > : back to PC1 (which runs XP), I just couldn't access it. If I go to
    : > : Control Panel -> Printers with Vista, I can click Add Printer and
    : > : Network Printer and it successfully finds the two printers on PC1.
    : > : However as soon as I click on one of their icons and click NEXT, I get
    : > : the following two popups:
    : > : "Connecting to ML-1200 on GT4010", then a second later
    : > : " Windows cannot connect to the printer, access is denied".
    : > : I've turned off the firewalls on both PC1 & PC3, and tried all kinds
    of
    : > : changes on the Vista PC3 including:
    : > : - Setting up an administrator ID on the Vista PC to match that on the
    XP
    : > : machine
    : > : - Changing the network to PUBLIC, then back to PRIVATE,
    : > : - Turning off TCPiv6
    : > : - Installing XP fix KB922120
    : > : - Turning "password protected sharing" on and off.
    : > : - Network discovery ON and OFF.
    : > : - Of course all the above was with Vista's File Sharing, Printer
    : > : Sharing, and Public Folder Sharing, turned on.
    : > : - I tried downloading Network Magic, but two successive attempts ended
    : > : in errors.
    : > : COULD SOME WISE PERSON PLEASE HELP?! Many thanks in advance - this
    : > : is driving me crazy!
    : > :
    : >
    : >
    :
     
    Good News!, Mar 5, 2007
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  7. Hula Baloo

    vikki Guest

    i too have scoured the internet, spent hours on the phone with techs to no
    avail until i read someones post to use "network magic". i had tried
    EVERYTHING and nothing had worked. NETWORK MAGIC does! Yahoo!
     
    vikki, Mar 5, 2007
    #7
  8. Hula Baloo

    Bucko Guest

    I too installed Network Magic to access a printer on XP Home machine and it
    works.. BUT why should we have to install something to our computers that we
    should be able to do right out of the box with no problems, I've been
    networking computers in my home now since 1999 and NEVER have had to
    downgrade myself to installing a piece of software to network 7 computers,
    at one time I had 2 98 computers, 2 xp computers and 3 2k computers all
    networked fine in addition to having a Playstation and XBox on my router and
    switches. I upgrade 3 computers to Vista and suddenly I have to run Network
    Magic on my network t obe able to access shared folders and printers.. Am I
    a happy camper? No I have spent $400 on Vista Ultimate full install because
    I was told on these forums that I could not do a full clean install unless I
    bought the full version, which is NOT true, as I did a clean install with an
    upgrade key with no problem, then spent $300 on hardware upgrades to run
    this software, and I need another $210 now to buy Network Magic to install
    on my network to get all of the comptuers to work together. This is pitiful!
    I am stuck right now with Ultimate, no use trying to return it. Next time
    Mr. Gates comes out with a new OS, I will be the last to upgrade.
     
    Bucko, Mar 5, 2007
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  9. Hula Baloo

    AJR Guest

    Unfortunately there are times when we believe we are following the correct
    steps to obtain a result but omit some step - have had no problem, nor need
    for Network Magic, in sharing printers between XP and Vista. Suggestion
    "RTFM" (read the friendly manual)..
     
    AJR, Mar 6, 2007
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  10. Hula Baloo

    Jet City Guest

    Bucko,

    The cost for an 8 pc license of Network Magic is $50
    (http://www.networkmagic.com/purchase.php)

    Microsoft should not make it so hard to network, but they do. At least you
    don't have to pay $210.
     
    Jet City, Mar 7, 2007
    #10
  11. I tried network magic and it did not help. I have an hp officejet k6
    but in vista it state that I do not have the correct printer driver an
    wnats me to find an inf file
     
    lostinprinterhell, Mar 30, 2008
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  12. Hula Baloo

    Mick Murphy Guest

    Go to HP's website and download the Vista compatible Driver for that Model
    Printer
    That is where you get the Driver, if one exists for that model!
     
    Mick Murphy, Mar 30, 2008
    #12
  13. Of course it i have all the lastest driver
     
    lostinprinterhell, Mar 30, 2008
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  14. Hula Baloo

    marst194 Guest

    If you are still interested, solution looks like these:

    1. Install latest Vista drivers for your printer on the vista machine;

    2. Open Control Panel -> Printers, will see the new printer installed;

    3. Open properties on that printer ang go to ports tab;

    4.Add New Port -> Local and when it asks for port name enter the IP of
    the XP machine and printer name of the printer connected to it.

    Should look like this for ex. \\192.168.2.101\SamsungM


    Important:
    Your printer should all the time during the proces be turn on and
    connected to the XP machine.
    No need to connect the printer to the Vista machine.

    Try it.
     
    marst194, Sep 6, 2008
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  15. Hula Baloo

    dick Guest

    Old man trying to move into 21st century needs some help. Not proud to say I
    recently got my new laptop with Vista, old desktop with XP and new wireless
    router providing access to the Internet after only 6 hours<G>.

    Anyway now I'm not sure how to ask for specific help buut would like:1) to
    use old printer
    from laptop, 2) access email folders and 3) share files.

    I setup a temporary computer to computer network in the Vista laptop but got
    lost trying to do similar to old XP computer. Maybe a little detail on
    accessing the printer will help me learn what I'm doing...

    Thanks, Dick
     
    dick, Jun 23, 2009
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