Somewhat off-topic but I don't want to open a new newsgroup

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by 46erjoe, May 8, 2007.

  1. 46erjoe

    46erjoe Guest

    I have 4 hard drives with important information on them. They are not
    repeat NOT bad drives. They worked fine when I dismantled the system.
    Now I need the data on them. I can't put the systems back together
    again (Humpty Dumpty etc.)

    I've tried using a hard drive shell to get the info off but that
    didn't work for some reason. So I'm thinking of going to a computer
    shop of some kind and ask them to retrieve the data.

    Am I asking a big bucks job? Retrieving data off bad drives I know is
    costly because I had to do that once. But these drives are okay.
    Probably all that the guy would have to do would be to set my drive up
    as a slave and pull off the data to a CD.

    What'ya think? Is this gonna drain my wallet? Thanks.
     
    46erjoe, May 8, 2007
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  2. 46erjoe

    Spocks Buddy Guest

    If you can manage to get some hardware together try this:

    download pclinuxos 2007 tr4 and use that CD to boot your computer...
    this is a live LINUX cd, that is bootable and will not touch your hard
    drives...
    but it will detect them and mount them.

    then you can do various things to save your data.. if you have a network you
    can transfer the data from the
    drives to another computer. If you have a flash drive you can save the data
    there of if you have an external hard drive you can save the information
    there...

    bootable linux cd's are also called rescue disks for this very reason

    Plus the linux download is free....

    http://www.pclinuxos.com/
    download http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_ionfiles&Itemid=28


    tell me if this helps
     
    Spocks Buddy, May 8, 2007
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  3. I don't think this will be that expensive. What you need to do is purchase
    an external USB drive, connect it to your current system to make sure that
    it works properly and then take that drive with the other drives to the shop
    and have them simply copy the data to the new external drive.
     
    Ronnie Vernon MVP, May 9, 2007
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  4. 46erjoe

    Malke Guest

    No one can really answer that with any accuracy since we don't know 1)
    where you live and what the going computer repair prices are in your
    area; 2) how much data you're talking about recovering.

    In general, no this wouldn't be very expensive. If the drives are good,
    it wouldn't be a difficult job. If you have huge amounts of data to be
    recovered and burned to DVD-R, it would just take some time. I don't
    know why you couldn't do this with an external enclosure but since you
    didn't give details, I can't guess.

    If you want a better estimate of the time involved, I don't mind giving
    it to you if you provide more details about the amount of data, etc.


    Malke
     
    Malke, May 9, 2007
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  5. It should be a piece of cake job, if the drives are good as you say. Most
    shops use external drives (USB or Firewire), so it's a quick and easy
    hookup. Depending on the amount of data, and where it is located (if in
    multiple folders, and it's a hunting job to find files....), it could range
    in cost.

    If it's a simple remove and burn to a DVD, it should be fairly cheap.
     
    Dustin Harper, May 9, 2007
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  6. 46erjoe

    Spocks Buddy Guest

    How can you say that? If the total data from the drives is 300 GB and you
    want to back it up you would need

    around 65 dvds, say you would need about 10 minutes to burn each dvd....
    that would be 650 minutes,
    or 11 hours, thats one person working for one and a half days only to
    backup!

    Lol I would say thats expensive to do in a store! lol

    And thats if you say the data is only 300 gb... it could be more.. what if
    its all videos, what if some of the files
    are bigger than 2 gb and you would have to compress and slice them so they
    would be able to burn on a dvd?

    I can tell you its hell! I had to back up ONE 200 gb full of data because it
    was failing and it took one whole day
    and I dont mean 8 hours....
     
    Spocks Buddy, May 9, 2007
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  7. 46erjoe

    46erjoe Guest

    I did try to use an external USB hard drive enclosure. It didn't work.
    It was a Z-Disk External by Cintre. My computer detected the conection
    of a USB drive, but it didn't appear in my Windows Explorer folders.
    When it was detected, it came out as "Windows has detected Maxtor
    /,;(&56%">?&% BL;AH ... in other words, gobbldegook. But again, no
    appearance in EWxplorer. I phoned the people at Cintre. No one
    answered. I emailed them. No response.
     
    46erjoe, May 9, 2007
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    NotMe Guest

    In many case's, you can just get an external USB hard drive enclosure, pop
    each drive in it & connect it to whatever computer you have now & access the
    data, copy as desired.
    Depending on what security you had on the HDDS, you may need to take
    ownership of the files/folders to access the data.
     
    NotMe, May 9, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    Were the individual drives or setup in a RAID array?

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    Leythos, May 9, 2007
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  10. 46erjoe

    Leythos Guest

    Try something other than a CHEAP one. I use a LOT of external drives
    where just purchase the case and install my own/old drives in them.

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    Leythos
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    Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling
    a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, May 9, 2007
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  11. If the drives are IDE, did you try different jumper settings when connecting
    to the USB converter?

    Dan
     
    Angry_American, May 9, 2007
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  12. True, but that's why my post had this line:
    If it is 300 GB, it will cost a lot more. If it is just a simple 10GB of
    information then it's a cheap job.

    Not sure if you read my post correctly, but we were basically on the same
    page there.

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    Dustin Harper, May 9, 2007
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  13. Well that's a Windoze limitation of some sort. Microsoft never did get USB
    working properly. You can try and boot your computer using a Ubuntu LiveCD
    and then plug in the USB enclosure. It should mount that hard drive and
    then you can burn the data to a DVD-R. Will take you some time but it's
    something you can do yourself when you have the time.

    Get the LiveCD from here ...

    http://www.ubuntu.com

    Love and Kisses,
    Doris
     
    Doris Day - MFB, May 9, 2007
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  14. 46erjoe

    46erjoe Guest

    Whoa Betsy!!! Are you suggesting that I download another OS and have
    it install all its programs onto my harddrive?? That would be like
    committing hardrive suicide yes?

    Or... is it possible? Say it is ... that I can run my computer
    completely off of a CD disk which has its own OS on it thus
    eliminating even the need for my primary harddrive?
     
    46erjoe, May 11, 2007
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  15. 46erjoe

    46erjoe Guest

    Again, that's exactly what I did. But WindowsVista would not recognize
    the presence of the USB2 drive. It gave the little message "USB drive
    detected Maxtor %)89*%4645<:| blah blah blah" but when I looked in
    Windows Explorer, the drive was nowhere to be seen.
     
    46erjoe, May 11, 2007
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  16. 46erjoe

    46erjoe Guest

    Your response is beyond my understanding. I'm a newbie.
     
    46erjoe, May 11, 2007
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  17. 46erjoe

    NotMe Guest

    The message indicates that Vista did indeen 'find' the USB drive. But you
    have to go through an additional step to access it.
    If you go to admin tools, disk managment, you may have to set the external
    disk as active to see it in Explorer.
    I am not in front of a Vista machine at the moment, but poke around in
    Control Panel to find it.
     
    NotMe, May 11, 2007
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  18. 46erjoe

    NotMe Guest

    In a RAID array (usually only used on servers or by advanced users) the data
    from each drive is mirrored to another drive as a backup.
    If they were on suchj an array, there may be additional steps to access the
    data, but in your case, that doesn't seem to be the issue.
     
    NotMe, May 11, 2007
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