SPDIF Pass Through Does Not Work in MCE?

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by robdes, Dec 18, 2003.

  1. robdes

    robdes Guest

    I connect my PC to an AV reciever via a digital coax cable

    I have the SPDIF pass through selected on the my audigy control pane
    as well as in the audio setting in MCE and the audio setting in th
    DVD player

    If I play a DVD via InterVideo WinDVD (this is what shipped on m
    gateway) it passes the raw digital signal to the AC reciever fo
    decoding there (I know this becuase my Sony reciever has a blue ligh
    that inidcates it is receiving and decoding a multi-channel signal)

    However when I switch to MCE and play the same DVD is just sends a L/
    signal to the receiver

    This is the same DVD, the only difference is the app from which I pla
    it (Intervideo vs MCE)

    HELP!!!

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  2. robdes

    Venger Guest

    I had similar issues when setting up my audigy2 NX to work with dolby
    and DTS correctly. If you are using WinDVD 4 or above, and a SB
    Audigy, here is what I did to get 5.1 sound to default in MCE.

    1. Make sure your audigy is set to Digital Output Only.
    2. Make sure you have 5.1 speakers selected in the XP speaker settings
    AND the Creative speaker settings app (FYI, I had to disable AC3 in
    the Creative software for this to work)
    3. Open WinDVD and get into Audio mode to select Digital/SPDIF output
    4. Run Regedit and navigate to
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Intervideo\Common\Audiodec]
    5. Create new DWORD value and name it "audio" (without the quotes)
    6. Open the value, and set the HEX value to 6 (this will force 6
    channel output)
    7. Open MCE and make your way to the DVD audio settings... once you
    select SPDIF now, it will remember it and output SPDIF every time you
    put in a 5.1 or DTS DVD. I get the DD or DTS light every time on my
    receiver now when the source plays.

    Hope that helps.

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  3. robdes

    Fiev Guest

    hi

    you have to go to settings - dvd - audio and let mce know that you are using
    an external decoder, then it will work. this needs to be done even if you
    have set windvd up correctly - the setting is separate for mce. the annoying
    thing is it doesn't remember this and you have to set it each time you
    restart mce - bummer. does this happen if you are using nvdvd - anyone?

    fiev

    "robdes" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I connect my PC to an AV reciever via a digital coax cable.
    >
    > I have the SPDIF pass through selected on the my audigy control panel
    > as well as in the audio setting in MCE and the audio setting in the
    > DVD player.
    >
    > If I play a DVD via InterVideo WinDVD (this is what shipped on my
    > gateway) it passes the raw digital signal to the AC reciever for
    > decoding there (I know this becuase my Sony reciever has a blue light
    > that inidcates it is receiving and decoding a multi-channel signal).
    >
    > However when I switch to MCE and play the same DVD is just sends a L/R
    > signal to the receiver.
    >
    > This is the same DVD, the only difference is the app from which I play
    > it (Intervideo vs MCE).
    >
    > HELP!!!!
    >
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    Fiev, Dec 18, 2003
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  4. robdes

    boeskip Guest

    I go to "settings" then "dvd" in mce. Then I click on Audio. Thi
    brings me to the sound setting for nvdvd. There I can choos
    "speaker" and the I select "reciever"
    Now it works fine!

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  5. robdes

    robdes Guest

    Venger

    I tried that but not luck..
    Here is the strange thing...

    I start MCE and go to settings/DVD and select SDPIF passthroug
    Then I play the DVD (no pass through
    Then I go back to settings/DVD and the selection has switched to
    channel and SDPIF is greyed out

    I rememer someone mentioning something about using the intervide
    audio codec in NIMO codec pack, but that does not seem to wor
    eithe

    This is very very strange that you need to go through these gyration
    to get this to work!

    Any other thoughts

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  6. robdes

    Todd Guest

    I had the same issue and this is how I fixed it...

    Go to:
    http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=66022

    Download the latest ac3filter which is currently "ac3filter_0_70b.exe".

    Install it on your MCE box and then launch the AC3 Filter configuration
    application from the MCE box's Windows Control Panel.

    On the "Main" tab go to "Output" on the drop-down box go all the way
    down to the bottom and select "SPDIF".

    Click on "OK" on the configuration app and everytime you launch MCE
    and play a DVD, the default will be SPDIF pass-through.

    This AC3 codec will replace the Windvd AC3 codec for MCE and you will
    be able to launch the configuration applet by opening MCE and making
    your way to the DVD audio settings... You can select SPDIF , it will
    remember it and output SPDIF every time you put in a 5.1 or DTS DVD.

    Hope this helps!
     
    Todd, Dec 18, 2003
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  7. robdes

    Venger Guest

    @ Robdes - what version of windvd are you using and have you installed
    any codec pack (in particular anything like ac3filter?)

    @ Fiev - if you add the registry settings which I mention above, then
    MCE will remember what setup you are using (i.e. 6-channel with
    SPDIF)

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  8. robdes

    Jason Tsang Guest

    The flaw seems to be more with Intervideo than MS (as you are adding the reg
    entry into a branch that Intervideo creates for WinDVD)

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    "Robert Desel" <> wrote in message
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    > This is a pretty major flaw I am surprise MSFT has not addressed it?
    >
    >
    > "Robert Desel" <> wrote in message
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    > > I am using WinDVD 4 Pro
    > > No I have not installed anything else
    > > "Venger" <> wrote in message
    > > news:ORg%...
    > > > @ Robdes - what version of windvd are you using and have you installed
    > > > any codec pack (in particular anything like ac3filter?)
    > > >
    > > > @ Fiev - if you add the registry settings which I mention above, then
    > > > MCE will remember what setup you are using (i.e. 6-channel with
    > > > SPDIF)
    > > >
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    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
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  9. robdes

    robdes Guest

    This is all very strange now..
    I removed WinDVD and all trace
    and reinstalled from the gateway source disk
    i can now select and get spdif pass through in windvd but in MC
    settings/dvd/audio the spdif passthrough is greyed out not eve
    selectabl
    i tried to reg changes no difference

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  10. robdes

    robdes Guest

    Solved...get nvdvd

    much better and it works!!!!!

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    robdes, Dec 19, 2003
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  11. robdes

    alalal Guest

    Venger

    Does this work with WinDVD 5 Plat

    Has anyone tried this with an on board SPDIF

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  12. robdes

    Venger Guest

    Yes, it works for me with the latest version (5.3 Plat). Don't kno
    about on-board SPDIF as I'm using a USB2 Audigy2 NX, which work
    fine. I'm guessing as long as you can use pass-through of signal o
    your on-board SPDIF, then it should work (i.e., your sound car
    doesn't do the decoding and sends the signal to your externa
    decoder)

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    alalal Guest

    Wow. That and the SPDIF volume fix are the two best fixes I've seen
    for MCE!

    Thanks

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    MichaelDowns Guest

    Hi,

    What SPDIF volume fix are you referring to?

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    "alalal" <> wrote in message news:%23gCHFK%...
    Wow. That and the SPDIF volume fix are the two best fixes I've seen
    for MCE!

    Thanks

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    rudolpht Guest

    I installed Cyberlink PowerDVD and even after removing it, I cannot
    get that Settings/DVD/Audio panel to change. I reinstalled WinDVD
    Plat 5.3, did the registry fix again, and still the PowerDVD audio
    panel, which of course will not allow SPDIF (on board) to be
    selected. It also has pretty poor 7 channel sound, losing the center
    channel in the process).

    Any help appreciated.

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    Edward Lee Guest

    Someone in another thread mentioned that NVDVD handles SPDIF pass-thru much
    better.

    Ed Lee

    "rudolpht" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I installed Cyberlink PowerDVD and even after removing it, I cannot
    > get that Settings/DVD/Audio panel to change. I reinstalled WinDVD
    > Plat 5.3, did the registry fix again, and still the PowerDVD audio
    > panel, which of course will not allow SPDIF (on board) to be
    > selected. It also has pretty poor 7 channel sound, losing the center
    > channel in the process).
    >
    > Any help appreciated.
    >
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    rudolpht Guest

    I bought an MSI 5600 card & can't find a copy of NVDVD? Does anyone
    know if this was included or available for GeForce users if not
    bundled?

    Incidentally I tried Sonic Cineplayer and same Cyberlink vcontrol
    panel nonsense. Nexxt step (read in a different thread) is deinstall
    all DVD apps & CODECs.

    Tim

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  18. robdes

    Jarvik7 Guest

    Re: Solved...get nvdvd

    > robdes wrote
    much better and it works!!!!

    How did you fix it? I have the exact same problem. SPDIF selectabl
    just fine in MCE, until you start playing a dvd, then it's back t
    stereo /w SPDIF greyed out. I tried the reghacks above but they di
    nothing. The same behaviour is exhibited in WMPLAYER9. I have trie
    using both the ATI decoder codec and Intervidio/WinDVD. Will try ou
    the Elecard trial version later on but I don't have high hopes

    This is most definetly a bug with Microsoft and not any particula
    decoder provider. I get proper SPDIF just by using WinDVD by itself
    or ATI's MMC player.

    Even on normal WinXP it's hard/impossible to get 5.1 digital out o
    WMPLAYER9. I suspect DRM as it is even stated that spdif is disable
    on DVD-AUDIO discs. Maybe it's broken and just disables for all dvds

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    Kami Guest

    Re: Solved...get nvdvd

    This thread is a god send! I've been fighting with the audio configuration on MCE since I got my box set up, and it finally works

    THANKS GUYS!
     
    Kami, Apr 21, 2004
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  20. Re: Solved...get nvdvd

    Glad you got yours to work. My onboard SoundMax AD1888 doesn't spit out
    s/pdif with any DVD audio codec I have tried....PowerDVD 5 Deluxe, WinDVD 5,
    nvDVD 2.55, AC3filter from sourceforge, etc.

    Dave

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    >
    > THANKS GUYS!
     
    David Shorthouse, Apr 21, 2004
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