Square or triangle?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Michael Cecil, Jul 14, 2006.

  1. I'm wondering how many folks here prefer the little sideways triangle used
    in Explorer and Regedit to indicate tree branches that can be opened, as
    opposed to the old square with a plus inside. I much prefer the latter
    since it's larger and easier to click upon.
    Michael Cecil, Jul 14, 2006
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  2. Whichever it is, it should magnify when you mouse over it.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 14, 2006
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  3. Michael Cecil

    Bernie Guest

    Yes I agree but still prefer the + sign that changed immediately giving
    the feedback that your mouse click had executed. At the moment I'm not
    sure if the click event has fired or if I should do a double click.

    In fact I'm not much impressed with the new look explorer and have
    installed xplorer2 (a free file manager) which is a lot more intuitive
    considering I'd never used it before installing Vista.

    Bernie, Jul 14, 2006
  4. Agreed.
    Mark D. VandenBerg, Jul 14, 2006
  5. Square with a plus, mostly because it was bigger and easier to see.
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, Jul 14, 2006
  6. Michael Cecil

    DavidJ726 Guest

    I agree, I certainly like the old tree style with the plus's.

    I also like the ability to enter parameters when starting Explorer, I need
    to do a little searching and see what, if any, parameters can be passed on
    when opening Explorer,

    This is what I currently pass in the "Target" section of the shortcut
    %SystemRoot%\explorer.exe /e,/n,


    DavidJ726, Jul 14, 2006
  7. I'm not getting that at all. It changes orientation when I do manage to
    click on it, but that's it. This is with Aero and the default settings
    for everything. nVidia 6800 video card.
    Michael Cecil, Jul 14, 2006
  8. Michael Cecil

    Bones Guest

    Well the folder expanding would be the first clue that the mouse click
    The second clue would be the triangle now pointing down after you click to
    expand it (or back to the right if you clicked to collapse it)
    I dont really care which symbol they use, square with a plus sign,
    triangles, green clover or yellow moons.

    Bones, Jul 14, 2006
  9. Michael Cecil

    Bernie Guest

    You think?
    Bernie, Jul 14, 2006
  10. I'm not saying it magnifies now. I am saying I wished it did. Feature
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 14, 2006
  11. And hit. What about accessibility issues here?

    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 14, 2006
  12. Michael Cecil

    Chris Game Guest

    Why didn't they add an extra pane to Windows Explorer whilst they
    were updating it, much easier to compare files and move them around
    if you can have two folders open in different panes.
    Chris Game, Jul 14, 2006
  13. Michael Cecil

    dotcom Guest

    Yeah, I don't like it either.
    It's toooooo small.
    dotcom, Jul 15, 2006
  14. Michael Cecil

    Bernie Guest

    Explorer has been essentially unchanged since 95. The differences in
    Vista apart from it's look have made it harder to use. I think something
    like Directory Opus would have been way over the top for most users but
    they could have made things pretty and kept all the dangerous bits under
    cover for power users and/or administrators.

    But I don't know the philosophy or politics at MS. I'm sure there are
    developers who would love to add more sophisticated features but maybe
    they are overruled by Marketing or just plain deadlines keep the less
    popular features shut out.
    Bernie, Jul 15, 2006
  15. Michael Cecil

    Leo Guest

    Whatever symbol they use, there are those who will not like it. That's
    human nature.
    Leo, Jul 15, 2006
  16. Any suggestion you have should be reported to Microsoft using the proper
    feedback channels. This is not a Microsoft-managed newsgroup and it is
    unlikely that they will see your suggestion here.

    Mark D. VandenBeg, Jul 15, 2006
  17. :) yourself!

    Oh that one has been bugged many times over in TechBeta. There is no plan
    to change it.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 15, 2006
  18. I know, but I had to with the first (and probably only) chance I got to
    mention that to you...

    Mark D. VandenBerg, Jul 15, 2006
  19. Michael Cecil

    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Sorry Colin, I had to laugh at this one as well ;)

    - JB
    Jimmy Brush, Jul 15, 2006
  20. Oh I know.

    Seriously, there have been a few persistent things like the squares vs
    triangles (can't you make them easier to see) discussions over in TechBeta.
    Another one is the tiny triangle to the right of the Hibernate and
    Lock-This-Compuer buttons on the Start Menu.

    The bottom line is that while the TechBeta testers all are pretty
    sophisticated users who use the various shutdown methods listed, the target
    for Vista is actually more of a Consumer on the one hand and a Knowledge
    Worker in an Enterprise on the other. Neither of which, according to MS's
    logic, ever does much other than hibernate or lock his computer. MS would
    not make the triangle bigger or even make it a button that said "Options."

    While that discussion continues, it is now all about how it will work on
    Vienna, not Vista, since such feature changes are now locked out for Vista.
    It's now fait accompli.

    The same for the squares and triangles. The window for design changes is
    closed for Vista. It's on to Vienna.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 15, 2006
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