Startup Programs have been blocked?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Paul H, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    I'm still attempting to get my Laptop set up, thus my posting my question in
    this "installation_setup" Newsgroup. When the pre-installed Vista Home
    Premium on my new Acer Laptop starts up, it says some "Startup Programs"
    have been blocked. The programs it displays as "Not Yet Classified" mean
    nothing to me. I have no qualification or knowledge that enables me to
    make any kind of decision about these cryptic programs. "Acer eAP Launch
    Tool", "Launcher.exe", "Acer Launch Manager", and "eDataSecurity" are the
    names that Windows Defender displays as "Not Yet Classified" - many others
    say "Permitted". Does a setting exist that will let Vista decide and quit
    nagging me about something I can't correct?
    Thanks, Paul
     
    Paul H, Mar 1, 2007
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  2. Paul H

    Guest Guest

    So you are unable to recognise your laptop as an Acer brand?
     
    Guest, Mar 1, 2007
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  3. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    If these pre-installed programs (not all of which are Acer) are not an
    issue, why are they being blocked". Or are you just making fun of my
    sincere question?

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    <.> wrote in message
    So you are unable to recognise your laptop as an Acer brand?

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    Paul H, Mar 1, 2007
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  4. Paul H

    Guest Guest

    Most likely because they attempt to do something that may be dangerous. As
    they come from the hardware manufacturer most programs like that do things
    that a stupid computer may consider to be dangerous. Remember computers are
    dumb. Whoever writes the simple rules (and there may be many rules but this
    only gives an illusion of complexity) has to balance protecting without
    raising false positives.

    A normal window's program has no access to hardware as all real world
    interaction is virtualised.

    Acer obviously wants access to hardware or parts of windows concerned with
    hardware, which makes sense as they are most likely hardware utility
    programs.

    You just need to use some brains as you are smart and able to make decisions
    with imperfect data unlike your computer. Your laptop is Acer so software
    with Acer in the name is probably ok. Ditto with other files - look for a
    link with the hardware (as preinstalled software is usually concerned with
    hardware) your laptop is built from and the file names. Many may be crptic
    so also look at what folder they are installed to and also check the
    Properties. EG I have Realtek onboard audio. I noticed a file called
    RtlUpd.exe. I find file and look at Properties and it says it about my
    Realtek audio, it's in a folder called realtek. I guess with high confidence
    file is ok. And read your motherboard/laptop manual so you know what
    components are in your computer.

    Below is what help says for you to do.

    Not yet classified
    Programs that are typically benign unless they are installed on your
    computer without your knowledge.
    If you recognize and trust the software, allow it to run. If you do not
    recognize the software or the publisher, review the alert details to decide
    how to take action. If you're a SpyNet community member, check the community
    ratings to see if other users trust the software.
     
    Guest, Mar 1, 2007
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  5. Paul H

    Rock Guest

    Programs are blocked by Defender at startup if they are doing something that
    requires admin privileges.

    Error message when you reach the Windows Vista Desktop: "Windows has blocked
    some startup programs"
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367/en-us

    If you want to know what the programs are/do, Google for them or contact
    Acer tech support.
     
    Rock, Mar 1, 2007
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  6. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    Yup, I knew most of what you said. The "Launcher.exe" hits on Google were
    not clear to me, however, and I fear that if I allow those Acer programs to
    run, they will start another process that I neither need or want.. My take
    is if these programs are being blocked, I'm probably doing OK without them.
    Or maybe their absence are causing other grief I'm enduring. I miss XP Pro,
    where I could avoid issues like this! I stopped using Zone Alarm, because
    it constantly made me make choices like this!


    Programs are blocked by Defender at startup if they are doing something that
    requires admin privileges.

    Error message when you reach the Windows Vista Desktop: "Windows has blocked
    some startup programs"
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367/en-us

    If you want to know what the programs are/do, Google for them or contact
    Acer tech support.
     
    Paul H, Mar 2, 2007
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  7. Paul H

    Rock Guest

    I'm not familiar with Acer laptops, but much of these types of apps that OEM
    vendors supply are not essential. To be sure check with Acer tech support.
     
    Rock, Mar 2, 2007
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  8. Paul H

    run1222 Guest

    yes i get same block and I allow but it keeps coming back next time i
    boot up. how do I allow for good as its a good program scansoft pdf
    reader update.On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:03:07 -0600, "Paul H"
     
    run1222, Mar 2, 2007
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  9. Paul H

    pete Guest

    I have an Acer laptop.......running XP
    those are ACER programs for things like reinstalling Applications from the
    hidden Partition,Making a Partition Secure by means of encryption..etc etc.
    Take a look at them and see if you ever would use them..
    They can be stopped from starting by clicking start/run..type in msconfig
    and under the startup tab uncheck them.
    They can also be uninstalled individually ..the instructions are on the Acer
    website.
    I have a few off them unchecked ..
    peter
     
    pete, Mar 2, 2007
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  10. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    I, on the other hand, want to NOT ALLOW, permanently, but not necessarily
    delete the programs. I'll try to go into the startup folder and move these
    programs somewhere else for safe keeping.


    yes i get same block and I allow but it keeps coming back next time i
    boot up. how do I allow for good as its a good program scansoft pdf
    reader update.
     
    Paul H, Mar 2, 2007
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  11. Paul H

    Rock Guest

    You can't allow it permanently, not if it is requesting admin privileges on
    startup. I see no reason why that updater has to run with Admin privileges,
    anyway. Why do you want it to run each time at startup anyway? Uncheck
    it's entry in msconfig and just run the update occasionally.

    See that KB article I referenced above.
     
    Rock, Mar 2, 2007
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  12. Paul H

    mikeyhsd Guest

    if you are not familiar with acer laptops, then maybe you should not try to answer questions about them.
    ..

    @sport.rr.com

    I'm not familiar with Acer laptops, but much of these types of apps that OEM
    vendors supply are not essential. To be sure check with Acer tech support.
     
    mikeyhsd, Mar 2, 2007
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  13. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    I, on the other hand, want to NOT ALLOW, permanently, but not necessarily
    delete the programs. I'll try to go into the startup folder and move these
    programs somewhere else for safe keeping.



    yes i get same block and I allow but it keeps coming back next time i
    boot up. how do I allow for good as its a good program scansoft pdf
    reader update.



    Yup, I knew most of what you said. The "Launcher.exe" hits on Google were
    not clear to me, however, and I fear that if I allow those Acer programs to
    run, they will start another process that I neither need or want.. My take
    is if these programs are being blocked, I'm probably doing OK without them.
    Or maybe their absence are causing other grief I'm enduring. I miss XP Pro,
    where I could avoid issues like this! I stopped using Zone Alarm, because
    it constantly made me make choices like this!


    Programs are blocked by Defender at startup if they are doing something that
    requires admin privileges.

    Error message when you reach the Windows Vista Desktop: "Windows has blocked
    some startup programs"
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367/en-us

    If you want to know what the programs are/do, Google for them or contact
    Acer tech support.
     
    Paul H, Mar 2, 2007
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  14. Paul H

    Rock Guest

    Lol, give it up. If you have something of value to contribute to the OP,
    then post to them.
    Still smarting from our previous discussion in windowsxp.general? Get over
    it.


    if you are not familiar with acer laptops, then maybe you should not try to
    answer questions about them.

    @sport.rr.com


    I'm not familiar with Acer laptops, but much of these types of apps that
    OEM
    vendors supply are not essential. To be sure check with Acer tech
    support.
     
    Rock, Mar 2, 2007
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  15. I'm waiting for a certain unnamed MVP that rhymes with sock to get
    over his swollen head ailment. Needing to crosspost to respond to a
    flame. Priceless!
     
    Adam Albright, Mar 2, 2007
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  16. Paul H

    Anyoldfname Guest

     
    Anyoldfname, Mar 2, 2007
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  17. Paul H

    mikeyhsd Guest

    still waiting for you to have something useful to contribute to the original poster.


    @sport.rr.com

    Lol, give it up. If you have something of value to contribute to the OP,
    then post to them.
    Still smarting from our previous discussion in windowsxp.general? Get over
    it.


    if you are not familiar with acer laptops, then maybe you should not try to
    answer questions about them.

    @sport.rr.com


    I'm not familiar with Acer laptops, but much of these types of apps that
    OEM
    vendors supply are not essential. To be sure check with Acer tech
    support.
     
    mikeyhsd, Mar 2, 2007
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  18. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    Acer Aspire 5610Z, or 5610-2273 on the paper that is stuck on the front edge
    of the laptop and lists the features.
     
    Paul H, Mar 3, 2007
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  19. Paul H

    Anyoldfname Guest

    Hi Paul click this link to the acer download page you will need the Vista
    Driver update and the Vista application update ... it will sort your problems
    out http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_5610.html

    all the best
     
    Anyoldfname, Mar 3, 2007
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  20. Paul H

    Rock Guest

    Lol, give it up. If you have something of value to contribute to the OP,
    then post to them.
    Still smarting from our previous discussion in windowsxp.general? Get
    over
    it.


    if you are not familiar with acer laptops, then maybe you should not try
    to
    answer questions about them.

    @sport.rr.com


    I'm not familiar with Acer laptops, but much of these types of apps that
    OEM
    vendors supply are not essential. To be sure check with Acer tech
    support.

    ____________

    I did, but you certainly haven't. You haven't posted one thing to the OP to
    help them out. Maybe you need to take your own advice?
     
    Rock, Mar 4, 2007
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