Stop using IE! Switch to Firefox/Opera/Safari!

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Edward, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. Edward

    Edward Guest

    I think it's quite annoying to look at this forum.

    Many users are having problems with IE7, but those MVPs can only have
    one answer - they think IE7 does not work it is simply users' fault
    because they have incompatible plugins etc...

    I'd suggest switching to another browser. Though Firefox 3 is still
    beta, but its performance, security and user-friendliness is MUCH MORE
    BETTER than IE7.

    Other browsers such as Opera and Safari are still better than IE7.

    In one word, IE7 is just a wrapped up junkbox with that old IE6.

    Period.
     
    Edward, Jun 3, 2008
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  2. Edward

    Gordon Guest

    And many many millions ARE NOT! You only see those people who are ill at the
    doctors - not the millions who are not.
     
    Gordon, Jun 3, 2008
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  3. Edward

    Leonard Grey Guest

    lol...This newsgroup is designed for people who have questions and
    problems concerning Internet Explorer. That's what you expect to see
    here. The vast majority who have no trouble with Internet Explorer - or
    who know how to use a search engine - have no reason to post.

    You are welcome to use any browser you wish. Nobody here works for
    Microsoft so it makes no difference to us.
     
    Leonard Grey, Jun 3, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    Add-on browser tools ("Browser Helper Objects", or BHOs) are the bane of
    any browser which uses them...
    ....including Mozilla Firefox.
    MS Internet Explorer 7 is certainly a major improvement over MS Internet
    Explorer 6. Running MSIE7 bare is probably the smartest way to use it.

    --
    Norman
    ~Shine, bright morning light,
    ~now in the air the spring is coming.
    ~Sweet, blowing wind,
    ~singing down the hills and valleys.
     
    N. Miller, Jun 3, 2008
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  5. Edward

    upyurbuttoo Guest

    Why would anyone switch just because an idiot says so
     
    upyurbuttoo, Jun 3, 2008
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  6. Go peddle it somewhere else. No one posts to this newsgroup to say they're
    NOT having problems.
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 3, 2008
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  7. Edward

    bobster Guest

    Once again a member of the ABM (anybody but Microsoft) crowd is heard from.

    Get over it -- Microsoft long ago won the browser wars. There are millions
    of us out here in cyberland who have used various versions of IE for 10 or
    more years without any major problems. And we're not all "unenlightened
    technical philistines" -- some of us have advanced technical degrees. Many
    of us have tried Netscape, Opera, Mozilla/Firefox, Avant, Maxthon and gone
    back to IE because it satisfied our needs better than the alternatives.

    The secret to ANY successful computer use is the proper updating and
    maintenance of the operating system and browser. Anyone who says a
    particular browser or operating system is completely secure and error free
    is blowing smoke and just does not understand the fundamental nature of
    software-based systems.

    Many of us have also tried Linux and its progeny such as Obuntu. I found
    them fun to play with, but believe they would be quite tricky to use for all
    but the more experienced computer users.

    And BTW, I have no association with MS other than being a satisfied user of
    Windows and Internet Explorer based computers.

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    I think it's quite annoying to look at this forum.

    Many users are having problems with IE7, but those MVPs can only have
    one answer - they think IE7 does not work it is simply users' fault
    because they have incompatible plugins etc...

    I'd suggest switching to another browser. Though Firefox 3 is still
    beta, but its performance, security and user-friendliness is MUCH MORE
    BETTER than IE7.

    Other browsers such as Opera and Safari are still better than IE7.

    In one word, IE7 is just a wrapped up junkbox with that old IE6.

    Period.
     
    bobster, Jun 3, 2008
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  8. Edward

    Edward Guest

    Please try Firefox 3 beta yourself.
     
    Edward, Jun 3, 2008
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  9. Edward

    Edward Guest

    Moron says idiot.
     
    Edward, Jun 3, 2008
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  10. Edward

    Edward Guest

    I'd really suggest you try Firefox 3.

    Though still in beta, it's AMAZINGLY FAST and STABLE - that is to say
    MUCH MUCH FASTER and STABLE than IE.

    And yes, Firefox has TABBED BROWSING already (I think it's since 1.0).

    Again, SECURITY has been long just a 8-letter word to Microsoft, no more
    and no less, just those 8 letters. They keep shouting blindly S E C U R
    I T Y without knowing what security is.

    I started using FF since its 0.1 alpha version, actually had no major
    annoyance ever.

    FF is my default browser since two years ago. Before that I set Opera as
    my default browser.

    Regards
     
    Edward, Jun 3, 2008
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  11. Bonjour/soir, le Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:05:18 -0700, *bobster* a caressé son
    clavier pour nous dire dans le message suivant:
    Are you joking ?
     
    Michel Doucet, Jun 3, 2008
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  12. Edward

    Edward Guest

    And, running Windows bare is the safest way to NOT get viruses!
     
    Edward, Jun 3, 2008
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  13. Edward

    Edward Guest

    So you only see laughing faces but not crying ones.
     
    Edward, Jun 3, 2008
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    bw Guest

    Yeah I like it, tabbed browsing is a major improvement but I can't stand the
    bleeps and warnings on every page when I run it with no add ons. The funny
    thing is, when I disable add ons, it constantly says it has refused to use
    them to protect me? Like... it was my idea to turn them off, dufus!

    Terrible help file and documentation!!!
     
    bw, Jun 3, 2008
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    Ersotz Guest

    Edward quite frankly your posts are just a bit disingenuous.

    I have used all three browsers on my computer, and have come to the
    conclusion that IE7 is the most stable for my needs. In adition, it also
    allows me to perform more functions and access more sites than FireFox and
    Opera combined.

    Personally, Opera is the most useless for my needs, primarily because it
    simply does not render sites correctly...if at all. It has a sloppy look and
    feel to it. Fast is meaningless if it doesn't look (or perform) correctly.

    As for Firefox...well...it just doesn't "wow" me at all.

    No thanks...I'll stay with the real deal...IE7.
     
    Ersotz, Jun 3, 2008
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    bw Guest

    Actually did try FF on a couple of Linux bootable cd ISO's I don't recall
    what version, but it had some features I like. I like to browse with pics
    off a lot and that "show pics on this page" control is a great idea. On IE7
    when pics are toggled off, sometimes when you right click an image it still
    doesn't show, especially those verification word files. I have to right
    click save to disk, then open it to even read it, what a pain.

    oh well, I been happily cussing IE since version 3 why stop now?
     
    bw, Jun 3, 2008
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    bobster Guest

    Well said, Ersotz!

    I have recently upgraded to an Intel dual processor computer using XP. I
    have been an IE user since IE4, having used IE6 for the past few years. I
    loved the form, format, appearance, and functionality of IE6 but felt the
    lack of tabbed browsing was a negative, so when I upgraded to XP, I went to
    IE7.

    I have been very pleased with IE7's features and stability. However, the
    positioning of the toolbars and buttons were quite different than those of
    IE6 and they seemed rather awkwardly placed. The address bar extended
    almost all the way across the screen so that except for very short URLs,
    there was a large white slash across the screen. Also, the address bar
    could not be moved or re-sized. I considered these "defects" minor but over
    time, they bugged me. I started looking for ways to overcome these problems
    by searching the web and found very little info on how to solve these
    problems.

    After much looking, I ran across the Quero toolbar which purported to "fix"
    these very problems.

    Now I am always very suspicious of adding BHO toolbars to IE, particularly
    AOL, Yahoo, Google and the like. There are also a lot of "toxic" BHOs out
    there than can raise havoc with your computer. So I thought long and hard
    before I tried the Quero toolbar. I figured that if it screwed things up I
    could always use the System Restore feature of XP to recover. To my
    delight, the Quero performed as advertised and I now have my address bar and
    buttons arranged just like I want them -- very much like IE6, with only two
    lines across the top including "links".

    There are 2 additional features of the Quero that I particularly like:

    With the address bar shrunk down, only the front end of the URL shows but
    Quero shades the root portion of the address, e.g. MSN , Google, Yahoo so
    that one can be sure of the primary site you are looking at.

    The other feature I like is direct searching from the address bar. One can
    just start typing a query and it magically appears in the address box, and
    after clicking "enter", or "go", goes directly to the first page of the
    search results of your default search engine.

    The addition of the Quero toolbar is relatively unobtrusive with only a
    small logo to the left of the address bar being visible.

    Sorry if this sounds like a sales pitch but I do like it. As always, YMMV.

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    Edward quite frankly your posts are just a bit disingenuous.

    I have used all three browsers on my computer, and have come to the
    conclusion that IE7 is the most stable for my needs. In adition, it also
    allows me to perform more functions and access more sites than FireFox and
    Opera combined.

    Personally, Opera is the most useless for my needs, primarily because it
    simply does not render sites correctly...if at all. It has a sloppy look
    and
    feel to it. Fast is meaningless if it doesn't look (or perform) correctly.

    As for Firefox...well...it just doesn't "wow" me at all.

    No thanks...I'll stay with the real deal...IE7.
     
    bobster, Jun 4, 2008
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    bw Guest

    After downloading the "new" Firefox I have to say I was mistaken, it was the
    little Dillo browser on Damm Small Linux I was thinking about, that little
    app is pretty awesome.

    Firefox 3 has the same bug version 2 had, if you browse no pictures, you
    can't load the images on the page with a right click... 5 years they had to
    fix this? sheesh! It was pretty slow too, still not impressed, works
    better on Linux.

    MANY more bugs in FF3, some seem to go back several years
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglis...roduct=suite,firefox,thunderbird,toolkit,core

    I'll stick with this crappy IE7 at least I can blame it all on BillG
     
    bw, Jun 4, 2008
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