strange networking issue

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by joey matthew, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. joey matthew

    joey matthew Guest

    I have a win2k3 server running as a domain controller connected to 2 PCs as
    clients. The problem is the clients can see each other in my network place
    but cannot see the server. the server cannot see both clients as well in my
    network place. However, keying in the IP address of the computers as well as
    typing in the names of the computers works (clients cannot accept server's
    name tho).

    how do I make the server show itself on the client pcs, and how do I make
    the server see the client pcs?
     
    joey matthew, Dec 28, 2007
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  2. It could be master browser issue. What's the system error code if using net
    view command?

    Computer BrowserThe master browser has received a server announcement from
    the computer <computer ... You have a master browser issue if you have the
    following symptoms. ...
    www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


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    Robert L. \(MS-MVP\), Dec 28, 2007
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  3. joey matthew

    Bill Grant Guest

    What exactly do you mean by "see the client pcs"? Are we talking about
    Network Places?

    The first thing to note is that this works on Netbios names, not DNS
    names. Make sure that all machines have Netbios over TCP/IP enabled. The
    next thing to check is does the DC have any other network connection. This
    can also upset browsing.

    Also make sure that the workstations have at least one file shared. They
    will not show up in a browse list if they have nothing shared.
     
    Bill Grant, Dec 29, 2007
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  4. joey matthew

    Kerry Brown Guest

    In addition to the other answers you've received it sounds like DNS may not
    be configured properly. Are the clients using only the DC for a DNS server?
     
    Kerry Brown, Dec 29, 2007
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  5. joey matthew

    joey matthew Guest

    The clients are also using the router outside of the room/network as a DHCP
    server, which distributes the IP addresses for the entire building. There is
    a computer outside that is NOT part of the domain.

    But if I remove DNS will it affect my AD settings? Because I do not want to
    lose em.

    oh and, thanks for the reply everyone!
     
    joey matthew, Jan 2, 2008
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  6. joey matthew

    joey matthew Guest

    yep, exactly. the server cannot see anyone in Network Places, under its
    domain, not even itself. But both clients can see each other.

    the server is connected to a switch which connects it to both clients, and
    the switch is connected to the router.

    I will try installing netbios/IPX on the server to see what will happen.
    Thanks for the reply :)
     
    joey matthew, Jan 2, 2008
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  7. joey matthew

    joey matthew Guest

    Net View says there are no entries. I've tried doing the steps in the master
    browser thing, but it's still not really working out. thanks for the reply :)
     
    joey matthew, Jan 2, 2008
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  8. joey matthew

    Kerry Brown Guest

    For active directory to work properly the domain controller should be a DNS
    server and the domain clients should only be using the DC for DNS. If you
    need the clients to also access the Internet then you can set up forwarders
    or root hints on the DNS server. The outside DHCP server may also cause
    problems but getting DNS working properly is the first step. If this is a
    test/lab/learning network then you may want to get a cheap router to hook up
    to the building network and hook up your test network to this router. Turn
    off DHCP on this router and configure the DC to be the DHCP and DNS server.
    Make sure you talk to the building network admins before doing this as they
    may not want you to set this up.
     
    Kerry Brown, Jan 2, 2008
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  9. joey matthew

    joey matthew Guest

    the server can now see itself in my network places, but not the other two
    clients. Do I need to install netbios on the clients as well? but the clients
    are kinda OK at the moment.
     
    joey matthew, Jan 2, 2008
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  10. joey matthew

    joey matthew Guest

    For now AD is working properly as the accounts and permissions set on the
    active directory is working on the other two clients. I'm wondering if I
    remove DNS from the server will it affect?

    Also, if I set up the server as the DNS and DHCP server, will the internet
    for the PC outside the network be affected if the server is turned off?
     
    joey matthew, Jan 2, 2008
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  11. joey matthew

    Kerry Brown Guest

    Don't turn off DNS on the server. AD relies on an active directory
    integrated DNS server.
    Yes, if the clients are using the server for DNS and you turn off the server
    they will not be able to resolve any DNS queries.

    After re-reading all your posts I am confused as to what you are trying to
    do. I also am not clear on exactly how your network is set up. Could you
    please give us a little more detail on the network and what you are trying
    to achieve.
     
    Kerry Brown, Jan 2, 2008
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  12. You may want to use browstat to troubleshoot it. These search results may
    help.
    Computer Browser
    The computer browser is to display a directory of all known computers
    or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the browser service
    is to ...
    www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm - Similar pages

    Troubleshooting computer browsing issues
    The Computer Browser service on local computer started and stopped ·
    The Computer Browser service terminated with the following error: This
    operation ...
    www.chicagotech.net/computerbrowsingissues.htm


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    Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
    http://www.ChicagoTech.net
    How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
    http://www.HowToNetworking.com
     
    Robert L. \(MS-MVP\), Jan 4, 2008
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