Super Slow Performance in VPC - 6mhz?

will it mess up the laptop if I run windows 7 in the vm even though I do not
have hardware virtualization. I just want the ability to show what it looks
like at a seminar

robin

 

I know now that it is just a piece of software, but some software on your
computer can mess up the OS -host, I just want to make sure this doesn't.

Also since it is in the bios, is it possible that Dell could make a
compatible bios update to turn hardware virtualization on in the motherboard
or does the motherboard have to come with virtualization first?

robin

 

The CPU, BIOS and MB need to have hardware virtualization as a
feature. Most likely, all you will need to do is enable it in the
BIOS.
Can you post your complete system info of your laptop?

 

it says it doesn't have it. I called dell and they told me it doesn't have
it either.
oh well, I will run it only to do updates and avg updates but will not play
with it on the laptop since it is too slow.
I will show it at seminars just not run any applications.
I will use the one on my desktop to play around with and learn
thanks
robin

 

hi steve
as you see by my post right before yours, I called dell, we looked into the
bios together and cannot find hardware virtualization and she told me where
it would be if it was there, and it is not one of the options, but it is a
dell vostro 1500
this is off my system but anything additional you can see it here
http://www.support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/vos1500/en/om_en/html/specs.htm#wp1102222

6.0 Processor(s)
6.0.1.1 ID CPU0
6.0.1.2 Description Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5270 @ 1.40GHz
6.0.1.3 Level 6
6.0.1.4 Revision 3853

Storage Information
1.2.1 Physically Attached Storage Capacity C: 136 GB
D: 10 GB
1.2.2 Physically Attached Storage % Utilized 40.67%
1.2.3 Network Attached Storage Capacity 0 KB
1.2.4 Network Attached Storage % Utilized -
1.2.5 1394 Capable Yes

..5 Computer and User Information
1.5.1 Model VOSTRO 1500
1.5.2 BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
1.5.3 BIOS Version A06
1.5.4 BIOS Date 04/21/08

7.0 CD/DVD ROM Drives
7.0.1.1 Description TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632H ATA Device
7.0.1.2 Manufacturer (Standard CD-ROM drives)
7.1 Sound Devices
7.1.1.1 Description SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
7.1.1.2 Manufacturer SigmaTel
7.1.1.3 PNP Device ID
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_76A0&SUBSYS_10280228&REV_1002\4&A7DE00C&0
7.2 Display Adapters
7.2.1.1 Description NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
7.2.1.2 Chipset Compatibility NVIDIA
7.2.1.3 Video Processor GeForce 8400M GS
7.2.1.4 Driver Version 7.15.11.5669
7.2.1.5 PnP Device ID
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0427&SUBSYS_02281028&REV_A1\4&1495F144&0
7.3 Keyboard
7.3.1.1 Description Standard PS/2 Keyboard
7.4 Mouse/Pointing Devices
7.4.1.1 Description Synaptics PS/2 Port Pointing Device
7.4.1.2 Manufacturer Synaptics
7.5 Serial Ports
7.5.1.1 Port COM3
7.5.1.2 Baud Rate 128000
7.6 Parallel Ports
Information not found
7.7 USB Controllers
3.0 My Memory
3.0.1 Total Memory 2 GB
3.0.2 Available Memory 950 MB
3.1 My Memory (Extended Information)
3.1.1 Total Virtual Memory 4332 MB
3.1.2 Available Virtual Memory 3040 MB
3.1.3 Total Page File Size 2345 MB
3.1.4 Available Page File Size 2010 MB
3.1.5 Swap File C:\pagefile.sys
3.2 Physical Memory Devices
3.2.1.1 Location DIMM_A
3.2.1.2 Speed 667
3.2.2.1 Location DIMM_B
3.2.2.2 Speed 667

 

windows live hiccuped when I sent this and said it went with errors so if
this is a double post, I apologize, if not then you only need to read it
once
robin

 

Your processor does not have hardware virtualization.
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=33096

 

SOLVED!

Hi guys, so this was a very silly problem. Deep inside of the bios advanced
setting was an option for "virtualization" which was disabled (the default),
enabling virtualization allows the processor to be optimized for virtual
machines and performance was incredible after a quick reboot. Thanks for all
the help. For anyone else struggling with an HP computer, check your BIOS!

Thanks again!

 

yea bummer eh?

oh well- dell did tell me that it would not harm anything if I ran it- it
would just be slow in the guest-which it is and I really do not want to do
anything in it but show it at a seminar and for that purposes it does run-
maybe at 100% but it does run.

Dell did tell me if I add some more memory it might make the host run a
little better- I am upgrading the laptop anyway (the ram should come friday)
because eventually when windows 7 does come out of beta and now is being
sold- I would like to upgrade this computer to it so I can teach and show it
effectively.
Thanks Steve for all your help
robin

 

Dell checked, and as you see Steve checked and I actually went into the bios
myself and checked but there is no advanced settings for virtualization
because it doesn't support it in the first place. But at least you got yours
running
robin

 

How much RAM did you allocate to the Windows 7 session? If more
than about 900 Mb that might explain things. You did indicate you
have more RAM on order in another posting so that may help.

Tony
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I allocated 1024mbs of ram
but I am adding another gig of ram to make the host 2gigs and the guest I
will leave at the 1024. If I find that is too much I will take your
suggestion and lower it down a bit
robin

 

It would be quite interesting to see what difference is when you get
more RAM.

Tony
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Yesterday I checked my Win7 guest again after reading all these
discussions on speed.
I had allocated 2048 Mb RAM to it but it was still as molasses. Then I
lowered RAM to 900 Mb to test some suggestions thta it would be
better, but no, it is exactly as slow.

My DELL PC does not have a 64 bit CPU and it does not have VT either
so I think that I am out of luck with this one. Vista Ultimate as a
guest runs decently on 1 Gb RAM but Win7 not.

 

Dell told me that my processor Pentium IV 670 supports hardware
virtualization and that it would available for me turn on in the bios. That
was not true. Windows 7 runs very slow in VPC while Vista runs fine.

 

the ram should come tomorrow as per ups and I will install it on Saturday-
(Ups doesn't normally show up here before 5pm and after that I am normally
brain dead and do not even want to look at a computer
I will let you know if anything changes
robin

 

tony adding the additional memory made no difference at all to the gues on
the laptopt. It is still at 100% cpu
the only difference it made was to the host- vista home premium sp1 runs
much better with the 2gigs now instead of the one gig it previously had. I
guess the hardware virtualization is needed.

On the desktop which has virtualization there putting in the additional 1gig
memory made a difference to the host and the guest. 1 gig is still
allocated to the guest (windows 7) and now 2gigs to the host. both run with
less cpu usage

robin

 

Same problem, no tweaking helped. I then tried VirtualBox, now it's running
pretty fast!

 

since windows 7 needs hardware virtualization when installing it into
virtualbox without this, did it still run fine? or at least did not use all
the cpu usage. Reason I am asking is I am still having this problem with my
laptop and would like to try to put windows 7 into virtualbox only if it
runs fine without hardware virtualization because my laptop doesn't have it.

robin

 

and can virtualbox run along side of virtualpc? without any conflicts?
robin