Super Slow Performance in VPC - 6mhz?

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by Flyingcowrancher, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    will it mess up the laptop if I run windows 7 in the vm even though I do not
    have hardware virtualization. I just want the ability to show what it looks
    like at a seminar

    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 20, 2009
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  2. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    I know now that it is just a piece of software, but some software on your
    computer can mess up the OS -host, I just want to make sure this doesn't.

    Also since it is in the bios, is it possible that Dell could make a
    compatible bios update to turn hardware virtualization on in the motherboard
    or does the motherboard have to come with virtualization first?

    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 20, 2009
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  3. The CPU, BIOS and MB need to have hardware virtualization as a
    feature. Most likely, all you will need to do is enable it in the
    BIOS.
    Can you post your complete system info of your laptop?
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Jan 21, 2009
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  4. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    it says it doesn't have it. I called dell and they told me it doesn't have
    it either.
    oh well, I will run it only to do updates and avg updates but will not play
    with it on the laptop since it is too slow.
    I will show it at seminars just not run any applications.
    I will use the one on my desktop to play around with and learn
    thanks
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2009
    #24
  5. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest


    hi steve
    as you see by my post right before yours, I called dell, we looked into the
    bios together and cannot find hardware virtualization and she told me where
    it would be if it was there, and it is not one of the options, but it is a
    dell vostro 1500
    this is off my system but anything additional you can see it here
    http://www.support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/vos1500/en/om_en/html/specs.htm#wp1102222

    6.0 Processor(s)
    6.0.1.1 ID CPU0
    6.0.1.2 Description Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5270 @ 1.40GHz
    6.0.1.3 Level 6
    6.0.1.4 Revision 3853

    Storage Information
    1.2.1 Physically Attached Storage Capacity C: 136 GB
    D: 10 GB
    1.2.2 Physically Attached Storage % Utilized 40.67%
    1.2.3 Network Attached Storage Capacity 0 KB
    1.2.4 Network Attached Storage % Utilized -
    1.2.5 1394 Capable Yes

    ..5 Computer and User Information
    1.5.1 Model VOSTRO 1500
    1.5.2 BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
    1.5.3 BIOS Version A06
    1.5.4 BIOS Date 04/21/08

    7.0 CD/DVD ROM Drives
    7.0.1.1 Description TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632H ATA Device
    7.0.1.2 Manufacturer (Standard CD-ROM drives)
    7.1 Sound Devices
    7.1.1.1 Description SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
    7.1.1.2 Manufacturer SigmaTel
    7.1.1.3 PNP Device ID
    HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_76A0&SUBSYS_10280228&REV_1002\4&A7DE00C&0
    7.2 Display Adapters
    7.2.1.1 Description NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
    7.2.1.2 Chipset Compatibility NVIDIA
    7.2.1.3 Video Processor GeForce 8400M GS
    7.2.1.4 Driver Version 7.15.11.5669
    7.2.1.5 PnP Device ID
    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0427&SUBSYS_02281028&REV_A1\4&1495F144&0
    7.3 Keyboard
    7.3.1.1 Description Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    7.4 Mouse/Pointing Devices
    7.4.1.1 Description Synaptics PS/2 Port Pointing Device
    7.4.1.2 Manufacturer Synaptics
    7.5 Serial Ports
    7.5.1.1 Port COM3
    7.5.1.2 Baud Rate 128000
    7.6 Parallel Ports
    Information not found
    7.7 USB Controllers
    3.0 My Memory
    3.0.1 Total Memory 2 GB
    3.0.2 Available Memory 950 MB
    3.1 My Memory (Extended Information)
    3.1.1 Total Virtual Memory 4332 MB
    3.1.2 Available Virtual Memory 3040 MB
    3.1.3 Total Page File Size 2345 MB
    3.1.4 Available Page File Size 2010 MB
    3.1.5 Swap File C:\pagefile.sys
    3.2 Physical Memory Devices
    3.2.1.1 Location DIMM_A
    3.2.1.2 Speed 667
    3.2.2.1 Location DIMM_B
    3.2.2.2 Speed 667
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2009
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  6. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    windows live hiccuped when I sent this and said it went with errors so if
    this is a double post, I apologize, if not then you only need to read it
    once :)
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2009
    #26
  7. Your processor does not have hardware virtualization.
    http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=33096
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Jan 21, 2009
    #27
  8. SOLVED!

    Hi guys, so this was a very silly problem. Deep inside of the bios advanced
    setting was an option for "virtualization" which was disabled (the default),
    enabling virtualization allows the processor to be optimized for virtual
    machines and performance was incredible after a quick reboot. Thanks for all
    the help. For anyone else struggling with an HP computer, check your BIOS!

    Thanks again!
     
    Flyingcowrancher, Jan 21, 2009
    #28
  9. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    yea bummer eh?

    oh well- dell did tell me that it would not harm anything if I ran it- it
    would just be slow in the guest-which it is and I really do not want to do
    anything in it but show it at a seminar and for that purposes it does run-
    maybe at 100% but it does run.

    Dell did tell me if I add some more memory it might make the host run a
    little better- I am upgrading the laptop anyway (the ram should come friday)
    because eventually when windows 7 does come out of beta and now is being
    sold- I would like to upgrade this computer to it so I can teach and show it
    effectively.
    Thanks Steve for all your help
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2009
    #29
  10. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    Dell checked, and as you see Steve checked and I actually went into the bios
    myself and checked but there is no advanced settings for virtualization
    because it doesn't support it in the first place. But at least you got yours
    running :)
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2009
    #30
  11. How much RAM did you allocate to the Windows 7 session? If more
    than about 900 Mb that might explain things. You did indicate you
    have more RAM on order in another posting so that may help.

    Tony
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    Tony Toews [MVP], Jan 21, 2009
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  12. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    I allocated 1024mbs of ram
    but I am adding another gig of ram to make the host 2gigs and the guest I
    will leave at the 1024. If I find that is too much I will take your
    suggestion and lower it down a bit
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2009
    #32
  13. It would be quite interesting to see what difference is when you get
    more RAM.

    Tony
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    Tony Toews [MVP], Jan 22, 2009
    #33
  14. Flyingcowrancher

    Bo Berglund Guest

    Yesterday I checked my Win7 guest again after reading all these
    discussions on speed.
    I had allocated 2048 Mb RAM to it but it was still as molasses. Then I
    lowered RAM to 900 Mb to test some suggestions thta it would be
    better, but no, it is exactly as slow.

    My DELL PC does not have a 64 bit CPU and it does not have VT either
    so I think that I am out of luck with this one. Vista Ultimate as a
    guest runs decently on 1 Gb RAM but Win7 not.
     
    Bo Berglund, Jan 22, 2009
    #34
  15. Flyingcowrancher

    Melelina Guest

    Dell told me that my processor Pentium IV 670 supports hardware
    virtualization and that it would available for me turn on in the bios. That
    was not true. Windows 7 runs very slow in VPC while Vista runs fine.
     
    Melelina, Jan 22, 2009
    #35
  16. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    the ram should come tomorrow as per ups and I will install it on Saturday-
    (Ups doesn't normally show up here before 5pm and after that I am normally
    brain dead and do not even want to look at a computer :)
    I will let you know if anything changes
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 22, 2009
    #36
  17. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    tony adding the additional memory made no difference at all to the gues on
    the laptopt. It is still at 100% cpu
    the only difference it made was to the host- vista home premium sp1 runs
    much better with the 2gigs now instead of the one gig it previously had. I
    guess the hardware virtualization is needed.

    On the desktop which has virtualization there putting in the additional 1gig
    memory made a difference to the host and the guest. 1 gig is still
    allocated to the guest (windows 7) and now 2gigs to the host. both run with
    less cpu usage

    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 25, 2009
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  18. Flyingcowrancher

    cornel Guest

    Same problem, no tweaking helped. I then tried VirtualBox, now it's running
    pretty fast!
     
    cornel, Jan 27, 2009
    #38
  19. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    since windows 7 needs hardware virtualization when installing it into
    virtualbox without this, did it still run fine? or at least did not use all
    the cpu usage. Reason I am asking is I am still having this problem with my
    laptop and would like to try to put windows 7 into virtualbox only if it
    runs fine without hardware virtualization because my laptop doesn't have it.

    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 28, 2009
    #39
  20. Flyingcowrancher

    robinb Guest

    and can virtualbox run along side of virtualpc? without any conflicts?
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 28, 2009
    #40
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