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Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Dipesh_Sharma, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. Hi All,

    Can anybody please update me, whether IE8 can be installed on Windows XP
    embedded SP3 operating system?

    Kind Regards,
    Dipesh
     
    Dipesh_Sharma, Jun 3, 2010
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    No Mo Guest

    Of course.
    Have you not read system requirements? That's the first thing you should
    always do. Why, you can even find out by Googling!

    : Hi All,
    :
    : Can anybody please update me, whether IE8 can be installed on Windows XP
    : embedded SP3 operating system?
    :
    : Kind Regards,
    : Dipesh
     
    No Mo, Jun 3, 2010
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    Dan Guest

    Yes, IE8 is available from the ECE site for Windows XP Embedded SP3 /
    Windows Embedded Standard 2009. It was released in March 2010. You need to
    have access to the ECE site to obtain this though.
     
    Dan, Jun 3, 2010
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  4. Sure, I can tell you.

    It can.

    IE8 is delivered with the SP3 update to XP. You have to decline it --
    although I don't recall an option to do that when I updated my XP machines.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 3, 2010
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  5. Not only can IE8 be installed on XP with SP3, SP3 is required if you want
    IE8.

    You can have SP3 and not have IE8, but if you want IE8 then you must have
    SP3 -- or Vista or Win7.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 3, 2010
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    No Mo Guest

    : IE8 is delivered with the SP3 update to XP. You have to decline it --
    : although I don't recall an option to do that when I updated my XP
    machines.
    :
    No, it isn't. SP3 came out before IE8. It is a separate Windows update or as
    a stand-alone install.
     
    No Mo, Jun 3, 2010
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    No Mo Guest

    : Not only can IE8 be installed on XP with SP3, SP3 is required if you want
    : IE8.
    :
    Wrong again. SP2 or higher.
     
    No Mo, Jun 3, 2010
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    Rob Guest

    But the question is: did you actually READ the question? Carefully?
     
    Rob, Jun 3, 2010
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    No Mo Guest

    :
    : But the question is: did you actually READ the question? Carefully?

    And the answer is still "yes". Jeff also provided incorrect information in
    replies.
     
    No Mo, Jun 3, 2010
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  10. I have a different experience, sorry. I resisted the move away from IE6 for
    as long as I could. My recollection is that I had to take IE8 when I took
    SP3, but my machine had suffered a catastrophic event that demanded a new
    HDD and motherboard, and I guess I lost track of what went where and when,
    and why it went there. I skipped IE7, and went from 6 to 8. I recall
    (wrongly, if you guys are right) that I could not remain with IE6 and SP3,
    and I certainly did remain with IE6 and SP2. My assumption based on this is
    that IE8 is required with SP3, or that SP3 is required to have IE8. Sorry if
    that is not correct, it seemed like that is what my machine demanded when I
    had to cross that bridge.

    I guess it doesn't matter what my experience is, or what I think it was, the
    OP asked if IE8 can be installed on XP running SP3. The asnwer is, yes.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 3, 2010
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  11. I'm pretty sure I read it. Based on that, my asnwer is, yes it can.

    Do you have a different answer? Maybe I missed something.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 3, 2010
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    Rob Guest

    It may well be that IE8 was offered to you by Windows Update in the
    same session where it also offered SP3, but IE8 certainly is not part
    of SP3 and it does not require SP3 either.
    That was not his actual question. I already had a hunch that you
    misread it.
     
    Rob, Jun 3, 2010
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  13. Okay, what is the question? It looked pretty simple to me.

    I was a bit stumped by the term, imbedded, but my confusion there is that I
    don't see that an embedded OS should be any different than an installed OS
    when it comes to installing applications.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 3, 2010
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    Rob Guest

    And this assumption is based on what?
    You know that "Windows XP embedded" is the version of the OS, do you?
    It is quite different from normal XP.

    And MSIE isn't exactly an application running on the OS. It should have
    been, but it isn't. It is a part of the OS.
     
    Rob, Jun 3, 2010
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  15. But the asnwer to the question is still, "yes, IE8 can be installed on to
    embedded XP/SP3.

    The embedded system is typically loaded into a netbook, for example. It's a
    scaled down versoin of the OS that is trimmed to fit in a confined
    environment -- such as that which exists in small packages like a netbook.
    Granted, a netbook is a small package physically, but the physical space
    isn't the discussion here. A small physical space can result in cramped
    memory space, and this is the discussion.

    I once worked on devices that had IE5 embedded in them so they would appear
    over the business enterprise system, giving them internet visibility.
    Basically, I put Webpages into I/O devices so we could see them remotely.
    Cool stuff. We had a device that the embedded software was too large to fit
    into memory, and a redesign of the packaging was hugely problematic -- both
    from a cost and a time perspective. We had to constrain the physical size of
    the package to an industry standard, and this constraint drove the selection
    of memory capacity. In any case, I was able to reduce the size of the file
    that was embedded so that it fit within the space available, and saved my
    company tens of thousands of dollars and months of development time.

    So, yes, I have a pretty good grasp of what embedded is. I was not confused
    by the term, but by the question. My confusion came because I own a Netbook
    machine with embedded XP/SP3 and IE8, so the premise of the question seemed
    a bit odd.
     
    Jeff Strickland, Jun 3, 2010
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  16. "No Mo" <>

    How appropriate!
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 3, 2010
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    No Mo Guest

    Thanks, ~Robear!

    : "No Mo" <>
    :
    : How appropriate!
     
    No Mo, Jun 3, 2010
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  18. FWIW mine is that it was tricky trying to avoid IE8 between XPsp2 and XPsp3
    simply because of the way it was offered. In the end I managed to have a
    removable IE8 in XPsp3.


    That's what I meant by tricky. You would seen the IE8 offering before you
    saw an XPsp3 offering. Then you would have had to mark the IE8 as declined.
    Then, eventually, you would have seen XPsp3 offered or go and get it
    manually. Then you could have reaccepted IE8. If you don't do it in that
    order IE8 becomes embedded in the OS (not able to be uninstalled) unless you
    first uninstall the service pack(s) that baked it in.


    Robert
    ---
     
    Robert Aldwinckle, Jun 4, 2010
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  19. Hi Everybody,
    Thanks for confirming that IE8 can be installed on XPembedded SP3.

    Kind Regards,
    Dipesh
     
    Dipesh_Sharma, Jun 4, 2010
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    Dan Guest

    Jeff, XP Embedded is not a "stripped down" version of XP, it's what MS call
    "componentized". It's actually a different beast to XP itself, it's not like
    they just removed some bits and called it Embedded, you can't just slap IE8
    on it that you download from the MS site. There is a special version of IE8
    specifically for XP Embedded, and it took a year from the release of IE8 for
    XP for the XP Embedded version to appear because the IE code had to be
    changed to work with XP Embedded. IE8 for XP Embedded was only released 3
    months ago.

    Do you really have a Netbook with XP Embedded? I would suspect not, as
    Embedded is designed for mostly non-PC applications - robots, toasters,
    portable navigation, cars. Netbooks with XP normally use a stripped down
    version of XP Home, but this is very different to Embedded. If you can
    provide the model of Netbook that you have, and it really does have XP
    Embedded with IE8 (and it would have to be a very new Netbook to do so),
    then I will of course eat humble pie, but given the amount of misinformation
    you post in this newsgroup I'd be surprised if this is the case.

    As to the IE8/XP SP3 issue, I've got PCs here at work with IE8 on XP SP2,
    and I've got PCs with XP SP3 and IE7 (as well as some with XP SP3 and IE8 of
    course :p); IE8 and XP SP3 are *not* directly tied together.
     
    Dan, Jun 4, 2010
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