Supported videocards?

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Pontus, Oct 17, 2004.

  1. Pontus

    Pontus Guest

    I just installed Mce 2005 and it says "videocard or driver not supported".
    Im using a motherboard with intel 865g chipset and the build in "Intel
    extreme graphics 2". Using the lasest driver from epox site. It can view tv
    using hauppage software buf it seems like mce doesn't like it.

    Is there a place where I can find what cards are supported? Would be nice to
    know what to aim for when buying a new card.

    Thanks, Pontus
     
    Pontus, Oct 17, 2004
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  2. Pontus

    Pontus Guest

    Thanks, but I think that list is very far from complete. Im quite sure there
    are more supported cards then 9800 and X800. Read somewhere that anything
    with 64MB dedicated memory works but would be nice with an official page
    about it.
     
    Pontus, Oct 18, 2004
    #3
  3. Read closely. That is the list of hardware _submitted to the LOGO PROGRAM_.
    Of course there may be other hardware which _works_ as well, but hasn't
    been submitted to the logo program.

    However, "64MB dedicated memory" is NOT sufficient. As MCE 2005 runs the
    video through Direct3D 9 surfaces, you'll need a DirectX 9.0 card with a
    DirectX 9.0 DDI driver.

    Furthermore, running video through Direct3D 9 is not a "conventional"
    application, meaning this hasn't been tested much (if at all) with existing
    DirectX 9.0 hardware and drivers. The big manufacturers had to iron out
    bugs for MCE 2005 (look at their release notes). The question is if
    manufacturers with a small market share (e.g. Intel integrated chipset
    graphics) will bother to make their drivers fully MCE 2005 compatible, or
    if even their hardware has sufficient functionality in the 3D pipeline (3D
    YUV surfaces aren't really common in conventional 3D applications)...

    Regards,«
     
    Robert Schlabbach, Oct 18, 2004
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  4. Pontus

    Pontus Guest

    Thanks Robert for the reply. I'll pick up a Dx 9 compatible card from ati or
    nvidia and try that out. Kind of sad that the built in graphics cards wont
    work, would be ideal for htpc:s. No extra heat, less space.

    /Pontus
     
    Pontus, Oct 19, 2004
    #5
  5. It would be, but they just don't have the graphics processing power that
    Media Center 2005 requires...

    --
    Andy Vanosdale
    Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Microsoft Student Ambassador - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
    Microsoft Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/ExpertZone
     
    Andy Vanosdale [MCE MVP], Oct 19, 2004
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  6. Andy, quick question.

    My 2005 machine is currently running well with an ATI 9000 card in it, and
    IIRC it's got 64MB.

    The picture is what I've been accustomed for a few years now when it was a
    HTPC, and then a MCE2004 machine.

    If I replace it with one of the newer ATI's with 128MB or 256MB, will there
    be any picture improvement? Would it make any difference for watching sports
    or anything?

    Watching football this weekend, the first weekend I've done so with MCE2005
    running, while the video is smooth (i.e. no jumping or anything) it does seem
    a bit "faded" I guess is the only real good word I can think of, when there's
    a lot of action.

    I'm sure my card isn't good for DX considering it's over 2 years old, but
    didn't know if it would really make a difference.

    on the other hand, my gaming machine has an Nvidia FX 5200 (new Dell macine)
    and if that would work better in MCE, I could always stick that in the MCE
    machine and just get a good gaming card for the Dell.

    Thanks for any insight
     
    JDThree [MVP], Oct 19, 2004
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  7. A new graphics card (one that truly supports DX9) would definately help.
    MCE 2005 takes advantage of some of the cool features with DX9 for TV
    quality like pixel shaders and such. I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro in my
    machine and sporting games look very nice with analog and even better with
    OTA HD (the output is via S-Video to an analog TV).

    --
    Andy Vanosdale
    Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Microsoft Student Ambassador - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
    Microsoft Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/ExpertZone
     
    Andy Vanosdale [MCE MVP], Oct 20, 2004
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  8. Thanks for the reply Andy. Appreciate it.

    Anyone out there using one of those Nvidia FX5200's in MCE? This version has
    128MB.

    Their tech specs reference DX9 for shading and such on this card...

    Just trying to determine if the FX5200 will be sufficient in the MCE machine
    and the "better" new video card them going into my gaming machine.
     
    JDThree [MVP], Oct 20, 2004
    #9
  9. I believe the 5200 card will work...

    --
    Andy Vanosdale
    Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Microsoft Student Ambassador - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
    Microsoft Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/ExpertZone
     
    Andy Vanosdale [MCE MVP], Oct 20, 2004
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  10. Andy, you are just *TOO* helpful. :D

    I'm going to go play in my sandbox now and let you help the real customers
    out here with real problems, not just questions. :)

    Course, I'm going to swap video cards first. <G>


    Thanks!
     
    JDThree [MVP], Oct 20, 2004
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  11. I have the 5200, the only problem I have with it is going from full screen
    to window
    freezes. I did update to the latest mce driver, but it still does it.

    Joe
     
    Joe Tannenbaum, Oct 21, 2004
    #12
  12. Does it work fine in full screen though? i never run windowed, since I run
    this on my 60" HDTV, it's just full screen all the time, unless I alt+F4 to
    exit and do computer things on the TV screen.

    Thanks for the head's up!
     
    JDThree [MVP], Oct 21, 2004
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  13. Pontus

    xpout Guest

    I have a Radeon 9000 w/ 128mb and also get freezes/restarts when going to
    full screen mode in my tv. This is the only area that I can see a conflict.
    I can stretch the screen but if I try to click into full screen the computer
    just restarts
     
    xpout, Jan 1, 2005
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  14. The 9000 is not a supported video card (and way underpowered for what Media
    Center requires).

    --
    Andy Vanosdale
    Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Student Ambassador to Microsoft - University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
    Microsoft Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/ExpertZone
     
    Andy Vanosdale [MCE MVP], Jan 1, 2005
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  15. Pontus

    Curious Guest

    The ATI Web site does not list the 9000 as having MCE support but I suggest
    you try the Catalyst 4.12 drivers that do support the 9000 before purchasing
    another card.
     
    Curious, Jan 1, 2005
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