Suspension of Firewall

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Zygy, May 2, 2008.

  1. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of a
    very sensitive software.

    I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

    What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?
     
    Zygy, May 2, 2008
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  2. Are you talking about the Vista one? - I see no reason to suspend that
    for any download purposes.
    Depends on your environment. If your machine is directly connected to
    the net (has a public IP) I wouldn't risk it.
     
    Straight Talk, May 2, 2008
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  3. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Thank you for posting, but you do not give me the answer I asked for. Since
    I posted my question on a Vista Newsgroup, I must have been referring to a
    Vista Firewall.

    If you can give me the answer maybe you could also advise me how to restore
    the Firewall to a full operating procedure after the suspension.

    For your information the owners of the download advise the suspension of the
    Antivirus and Firewall.
     
    Zygy, May 2, 2008
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  4. Maybe it wasn't my intention to give you the answer you wanted.
    Thought about that?
    Well, not necessarily, smart ass. Many mislead people run all kinds of
    firewalls on Vista. Did you give it a thought that my question might
    have impact on whether you actually need to suspend that or not?
    I'm not going to do that until you give me a solid reason for
    suspending your vista firewall in the first place.
    That's common - because lot's of so called "security" stuff is too
    crappy to deal with even legitimate stuff in a meaningful way - e.g.
    by implementing all kinds of foolish pseudo-security functions.

    Ask them if they have a concern with the Vista firewall specifically,
    because if so you should maybe reconsider dealing with these "owners
    of the download".
     
    Straight Talk, May 2, 2008
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  5. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    You do not give the answer because you do not know it! Time waster!
     
    Zygy, May 2, 2008
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  6. You respond like that because you're clueless.

    *thread plonk*
     
    Straight Talk, May 2, 2008
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  7. Zygy

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello Zygy,
    1. Terminology correction : It's called Windows Firewall, not vista
    firewall.
    " -- suspend the firewall--" is not exactly the right way to say
    it. Windows Firewall can be either enabled (turned on), or disabled
    (turned off).
    2. " What risks are there if suspension lasts say for 1 hr?" --- It's
    like bank manager opens the bank, opens the vault, unlock all doors,
    sends everyone home, leaves the bank totally unattended. What risks do
    you think ?
    3. Have you tried downloading WITHOUT the owners' " recommendations " ?
    Please try that first, if it fails and you REALLY want to risk it, let
    me know. It's Not recommended.
     
    t-4-2, May 2, 2008
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  8. Start orb, help and support, type the word
    firewall in the search box, then click on enter,
    then click on turn Windows firewall on or off,
    then read the help file.

    If you get lost, come back for a walk through.

    By the way, there is no good reason I can think
    of for needing to do this merely to download a file.
     
    FromTheRafters, May 2, 2008
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  9. Who recommended it and why? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're
    doing, that makes no sense to me.

    Exactly what do you mean by "very sensitive software"?
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, May 2, 2008
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  10. Never, ever take any computer or network related advice from that
    source again.


    Until you tell us what specific firewall you're using, no one can
    answer, even if they were so inclined.


    Almost immediately infestation of several nasty types of malware. it'd
    takes minutes, at most, before you start seeing pop-ups, etc.


    --

    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
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    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, May 3, 2008
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  11. Zygy

    SG Guest

    Hi Zygy,

    Click Start and click Control Panel.
    Click Security Center and then select Windows Firewall on the left side of
    the window.
    Click Change Settings and from there you can turn it off.

    Other posters have told you the dangers of doing this so I won't repeat it.
    Just remember to turn it back on as soon as you get your download.

    --
    All the best,
    SG

    Is your computer system ready for Vista?
    https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
     
    SG, May 3, 2008
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  12. Not necessarily. There are several 3rd party fiewalls tghat work with
    Vista.


    They're idiots. Don't use their software.

    I know I certainly wouldn't install any software being offered by
    someone who unnecessarily wants me to ignore the most basic elements of
    computer security. I'd have to wonder just what sort of mischief
    they're up to.



    --

    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, May 3, 2008
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  13. Zygy

    C.B. Guest


    Zygy,

    Although some people will recommend disabling antivirus during the
    download and installation of software I see no need whatsoever to disable
    your firewall. It is not a wise thing to do. You are asking for trouble if
    you do so. I always leave my firewall and AV on when I download and install
    software and I have never had a problem.
    You would be doing everyone a favor if you would let us know what
    software you are referring to and/or the name of the vendor so we can avoid
    their products.

    C.B.
     
    C.B., May 3, 2008
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  14. Zygy

    Kayman Guest

    <snip>

    Come on Zygy,
    you received quality advice, now return the favor and tell us about the
    'highly sensitive software', please.
     
    Kayman, May 3, 2008
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  15. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Thank you all for the very informative advice.

    I found a way of disabling the Firewall by myself and must add that I the
    owners who made the recommendation to Disable the Firewall owned up to a
    mistake when I queried it after reading the postings! The corrected advice
    was to Disable the Firewall during installation and not the download.

    I am still glad that I made the posting. It is never too late to learn!
     
    Zygy, May 3, 2008
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  16. You're welcome!

    No - wait - that one probably wasn't for me.....
    Not to disappoint you - but that also is a very questionable
    advice.....
    Whatever makes you happy....
    For once, you're right....
     
    Straight Talk, May 3, 2008
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  17. Sorry, but that "corrected" advice still makes no sense.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, May 3, 2008
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  18. Zygy

    Kayman Guest

    He probably meant 'to disable the software firewall' or allow the 'very
    sensitive software' to go through the fw and to allow it to download
    related files.
     
    Kayman, May 4, 2008
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  19. Yes. That's how malware often works.
     
    Straight Talk, May 4, 2008
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  20. Zygy

    Kayman Guest

    You're not going to tell us which 'very sensitive software' you're
    referring to, are you?
     
    Kayman, May 4, 2008
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