Sytsem Restore Point, not completing

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Wooch, Mar 31, 2007.

  1. Wooch

    Wooch Guest

    The other day, I was having troubles with Java not working. ( I had made a
    post about this and received a reply thanks!!)
    Well, before the reply happened, I attempted a System Restore. It went
    through the motions, picked a restore point, etc... When the computer
    rebooted , an error message came up saying that the restore was unable to be
    completed and that the reason was "unknown".
    I am running as the system admin so that takes that part of the equasion out
    the window.
    Does anyone know what the problem could be? Any thoughts would be helpfull.
    I am running the Home Basic Version.
    Wooch, Mar 31, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    You MUST be more specific. What "troubles"? What error messages?

    Very frequently System Restore will fail. Such as when some driver or program
    has made changes that System Restore can not undo. System Restore is a very
    valuable resource, but it is not infallible.
    Cal Bear '66, Mar 31, 2007
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    Wooch Guest

    Please read my post a little more slowly.... the error message was " restore
    could not complete error reason :unknown"
    So... the trouble as should have been obvious..., was that I CAN NOT
    The error message is "UNKNOWN"
    Wooch, Mar 31, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    Duh, numbnuts, that's what happens when System Restore fails.
    System Restore fails.
    You will have to find ANOTHER solution -- dummy!
    I will repeat, and please get someone more capable to read it for you:
    WHAT "PROBLEMS" WITH JAVA? What did you do to correct those "problems"?
    You obviously are a simpleton.
    Cal Bear '66, Mar 31, 2007
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    Wooch Guest

    Cal, Please do not respond to my questions again , I do not require people
    who can not answer questions without reducing themselves to Eelementary
    School play ground name calling trying to help the more mature Forum members.

    Is there anyonesle out there, who can resolve problems with System Restore
    not working properly??
    Wooch, Mar 31, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    The obvious is to try is another Restore Point.
    System Restore was working PROPERLY (up to it's capabilities).
    System Restore sometimes CANNOT restore a damaged computer.
    But is that too elementary (note spelling) for you?
    Please read this very carefully and s l o w l y.
    Anyone else (note spelling)?
    Cal Bear '66, Mar 31, 2007
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    Wooch Guest

    As far as being a damaged computer, I purchased it less than 3 weeks ago from
    a reputable store... the odds of the computer being damaged are very low

    As far as the Java issue it has already been cleared up and has no bearing
    on the issue at hand.. the System Restore not working... hence the thank you
    that I had posted.

    It is obvious that you have some computer knowledge, how ever, your ability
    to communicate properly is lacking.
    And I would thank you not too attempt to correct my English, that is in very
    poor taste and manner. Some people have better typing skills than others.
    Please refrain from such elementary, child-like, behavior. For future
    reference , it only makes yourself seem to be untrustworthy in your replies.
    Wooch, Mar 31, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    Dear Miss Manners,

    If you computer is not working it is "damaged". Eh?
    Your comprehension skills are very limited, aren't they?
    Cal Bear '66, Apr 1, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    You could also try Event Logs (although I cannot find a System Restore category) to see if there is any indication of why the restore failed.

    Dear Miss Manners,

    If you computer is not working it is "damaged". Eh?
    Your comprehension skills are very limited, aren't they?
    Cal Bear '66, Apr 1, 2007
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    SteveS Guest

    Do you have a program like Norton Internet Sercurity installed? I had the
    same problem and had to turn the protection off to do the retore and then
    turn it back on.
    SteveS, Apr 1, 2007
  11. If you notice, I placed a message a lot like yours a couple hours after you.
    But no one's replied to mine (Not even Cal Bear '66). I don't think yours
    had been posted when I sent mine off. However, my Vista is a HP vise your
    HB. I do not think that is an issue, but I figured I'd mention it.

    I happened to notice that with my problem (and you have to look quickly),
    when I click on the System protection function of the Computer's Properties,
    the Window opens for a split second. Then, another Window overlays it. The
    original Window seems to grant System Point permission, then the overlaid
    Window blocks it.

    I think SteveS might be on to something. While I do not use Norton Internet
    anymore, I am using NAV. I think I will be trying to disengage some
    programs and see if it will clear my problem up. Wish me luck! If I find a
    culprit, I post the info here.
    William Beard, Apr 1, 2007
  12. I have seen another case like this (along with a screenshot) and I know what
    you are talking about with "unknown". I want to follow up with the System
    Restore team about reasons why System Restore will fail. Note that as others
    have said, there might be 3rd-party apps interfering. I don't have a lot of
    info on this yet but you might try searching these newsgroups for hits (and
    see the posts to this thread as well).
    Jill Zoeller [MSFT], Apr 2, 2007
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    Bert Kinney Guest

    Bert Kinney, Apr 3, 2007
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    Razzle Fratz Guest

    Just because something is new does NOT mean it is good!

    Just because something is expensive also does NOT mean it is better!

    Often new and expensive things are really new and expensive junk!
    Razzle Fratz, Apr 3, 2007
  15. I have NAV and I tried uninstalling it, but that didn't help so I
    reinstalled it. I know that Norton Internet was interfering with my XP so I
    stopped using. My only concern is that many programmers don't pay as much
    attention to the uninstall process as they should, so it is hard to be sure
    that uninstalling something really returns you back to before the product
    was installed. I assume that the Registry is part of the System Restore
    function. And, if that isn't working, then how do you insure that you have
    indeed removed all of the product from the registry. I haven't seen any
    third party registry cleaners yet for Vista for which I would spend my money
    (I've looked). And, I have first hand experience with XP registry cleaners
    that say they are Vista compatible, but did me more harm than good. That
    might be part of my problem.
    William Beard, Apr 3, 2007
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    Rock Guest

    IMO one should never use a registry cleaner to do it's work automatically.
    Run one to see what it suggests, research the info, and then make am
    informed decision whether something needs to be removed to fix a specific
    problem - that's the only way to use one. Otherwise avoid them, it is a
    snake oil remedy.

    The problems they can cause might not show up right away if that feature is
    not used immediately, and is very hard to back track then when a problem
    surfaces later. Same with XP, they cause more harm than good.
    Rock, Apr 4, 2007
  17. Now he tells me! No, really, I figured that out on my own. The hard way,
    which seems the only way I really learn. That's what comes from graduating
    as an engineer instead of as a programmer.
    William Beard, Apr 4, 2007
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    Rock Guest

    Lol. Engineers aren't totally hard headed. Why I knew an engineer once
    who...hmmm come to think of it you might be right.
    Rock, Apr 4, 2007
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    Bert Kinney Guest

    Hi William,

    Then you will want to see this. It also applies to Vista.

    "Restoration Incomplete. Your computer cannot be restored . . . "

    Here are some troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to

    As far as I know the registry is also restored in the restore process.

    Norton's uninstall process is as bad as it software. Here are some
    instructions on completely removing there applications.

    Symantec Removal

    Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
    Bert Kinney, Apr 4, 2007
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    Wooch Guest

    A day after my posting this issue ( and struggling to have Cal Bear to get
    lost), for some strange reason ( Issac Asimov's ghost in the machine
    perhaps?? lol) It allowed me to creat the System Restore. I was also able to
    create a Back Up DVD.. I had not mentioned that problem yet because I wanted
    the question to be a seperate issue.

    Thank-You Jill, I thought that I was going insane. I have no 3rd party apps
    that had been downloaded to the computer when this was occuring. I had
    un-installed my printer, etc and thought that there may have been some coding
    that had effected them and tried but nope.
    Wooch, Apr 5, 2007
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