The bugs keep popping up, sorry folks Vista is many ways is just as dumb as previous versions of Win

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by Adam Albright, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. I thought maybe I should relax a little instead of fighting with Vista
    for hours and hours. So this morning I was reviewing my extensive
    video collection which includes some funny web vids, some people sent
    me or I found, some I made over the years. All contain both video and
    audio tracks. These files span just about every audio/video file type
    there is.

    Well it was going ok viewing them in Vista's new Media player. Till I
    hit one file. It started to load then popped up a warning box and
    asked if I wanted to download a audio codec. I say yes. It goes out on
    the web, comes back, seems to load the codec it claimed it needed or
    does a decent job of faking it. In typical Microsoft fashion Media
    Player starts to play the video, but oops, the video portion plays ok,
    but still no audio.

    What Vista attempted to install was the Windows Media Audio Codec.

    Just to help Vista out, I reboot to be sure the "new" codec gets
    properly installed and registered. Naturally that didn't make a bit of
    difference. Dumb Vista repeats the same steps, again goes out on the
    web and again asks if I want it to "find" a codec it claims it needs,
    so IT (Media Player) can play the file then again fails to play the
    audio portion.

    I guess this is a improvement since in earlier versions of Media
    Player it often would nag it didn't understand the file format and
    just died or took you to some useless web page. The kicker of course
    is there isn't anything wrong with this file. It plays fine including
    the audio, in every other player I have and I have many.

    So being in a playful mood I check further. Considering working with
    and creating videos is what I do, I know a lot of about what's needed
    and what can go wrong. So I use a simple and FREE little tool called
    GSpot to open the video file that won't play correctly in Media Player

    The purpose of GSpot is to tell you specifics of files you want to
    play, WHAT codec was used to compress the file, what's needed to
    uncompress, the file format, if there is file corruption, etc..

    It turns out the file in question is a DivX 5 file. Very common. Media
    Player can't handle it. But wait... that's BS. GSPot is of course way
    smarter then Media Player because it can do what Media Player is
    apparently too stupid to do, namely scan my system and show which
    codecs if any can play this file. It says I have three such codecs;

    Windows Media Audio
    Windows Media Audio Decoder
    WM Audio Decoder DMO

    GSpot also says that DirectShow finds a codec and also should be able
    to play it.

    Are you understanding yet?


    If you click on the names of the codecs shown above in GSpot it is
    smart enough to give details about the drivers. Guess who has the
    copyright on all three? That's right, Microsoft.

    GSpot also lists the actual driver files, for example msaud32.acm for
    Windows Media Audio. And it is sitting where it belongs in the Windows
    folder in the sub folder:system32.

    So the bottom line is Vista is so dumb, it tells its Media Player to
    go out to the web and download a copy of a driver it already had in
    its system32 folder but regardless it can't play it's audio, yet every
    other player on my system has no problem playing the file correctly.

    Now I'm sure these bug reports will bunch up the shorts of some MVP's
    here because I keep proving that Vista is buggy and they keep trying
    to blame hardware vendors or other software developers while in fact
    many the problems are with Windows it always has been.

    The truth seems to be Vista is a hog with a new silk dress. It may
    look prettier but underneath its still the old pig Windows always was
    in so many ways.
    Adam Albright, Feb 13, 2007
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    Zim Babwe Guest

    I had the same problem with the Media player as you did. One thing to fix
    it is to go to the windows INI file and insert the following line:

    Windows_Media_Player_Is_A_Skank_And_A_Retard = YES

    Reboot and everything will be just the same.
    Zim Babwe, Feb 13, 2007
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  3. Better to keep your mouth closed and let people "think" you are a fool,
    than open it and **confirm** the fact!

    Divx works fine here and I can view any of the 160 Divx movies I have on my

    Maybe if you presented your problems in a more intelligent manner and kept
    your ranting out of your posts, people would be more inclined to assist you.



    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
    Richard Urban, Feb 14, 2007
  4. I love you too. :)

    Your obvious lack of knowledge is showing. Many DivX files come in a
    AVI wrapper. That's probably why Media Player gets hung up. It thinks
    it is trying to play a plain vanilla AVI file when its a DVX variant
    of which there are many.

    I'm so sorry my post was over your head.

    Go back and read it again. Slowly. I don't have a problem, I
    DOCUMENTED a problem Windows has. Specifically Media Player is is a
    part of Windows by default. It stumpled, none of my other video/audio
    players did.

    You have 160 DivX movies. Wow, I'm impressed. I have thousands in many
    different flavors, hence the problem. Now what was that you were
    saying fools should do Richie?
    Adam Albright, Feb 14, 2007
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    Chad Harris Guest

    Why not post this in the Vista general group? It's not a setup question.

    Chad Harris, Feb 16, 2007
  6. Snipped to focus on the problem with less "noise"; scroll down for my
    follow-up questions...
    That's a common way for "wrong codec" to present, though here I as
    often see "great sound, no picture".
    Do you have other files of exactly the same type (as confirmed by
    GSpot)? If so, do they play naturally in WMP?

    Does the problem audio file play correctly in other media players,
    e.g. WinAmp, IView, whatever?

    What is the file name .ext for the problem file?

    Does it help to change this .ext?

    If only this file fails to work, then : Is the length of the file a
    round multiple of the cluster size? If so, it may be that an AutoChk
    or ChkDsk pass "fixed" it by truncating the chain.

    Saws are too hard to use.
    Be easier to use!
    cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user), Feb 17, 2007
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