The first setup experience and first pain

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by George Valkov, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. Vista-RC1.Setup doesn`t like the partition I choosed for vista. It won`t let
    me know why, perhaps it wants me to play guessing :) What a playfull setup!

    Whatever: I spent 5 hours moving disks, cables, switching jumpers and
    reformated the partition like 10 times to make it work. Cool!

    Reasons:
    ~ Target disk MUST be /dev/hda (primary master)
    ~ Target partition MUST be marked active (bootable)
    ~ Target disk MUST be NTFS (and not UDF)
    ~ Target disk MUST use default alocation unit (cluster) size. 64KB is not
    permited -- strange why? My primary installation is Windows 2003-SP1
    enterprise server and boots from /dev/hda1 NTFS 64KB clusters. What's the
    largest supported cluster size by setup?

    Cheers, after the whole pain, setup accepted /dev/hda2 (primary master,
    partition 2). After the first setup phase, I moved the disk to /dev/hdd
    (secondary slave) and reconnected the two other dynamic disks. Setup
    completed successfully!

    Finally there are two more problems:
    1. I used diskpart to change the target partition's drive letter to T:, but
    after the installation it was using C:. How do I force a custom drive
    letter?
    2 How do I create a boot menu, to select startup partition at boot time? I
    want to choose between:
    /dev/hdd1 (windows server)
    /dev/hdd2 (windows vista)
    /dev/hdd3 (linux slackware)
    Please don`t tell me about 3rd party software. Can I do this from Vista or
    2k3-server-SP1, or should I reconfigure the LILO (Linux Loader) and boot
    from the Linux partition?

    LEGEND:
    /hda is primary master
    /hdd is secondary slave
    /hdd1 is first partition on hdd and so on. I use the unix naming because it
    is short and precise.


    I am asking Microsoft to fix these problems for the final release of Vista.
    And if MS is to lazy to create a graphical interfase to formatting options
    and choosing drive letters, at least make sure that the diskpart.exe
    utility's settings and drive letter assignments) will take effect after
    installation. Can`t you simply offer the Disk Management console?
     
    George Valkov, Oct 5, 2006
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  2. George Valkov

    Theo Guest

    Your comment about "Target disk MUST be NTFS
    (and not UDF)" caught my attention.

    "The Universal Disk Format (UDF) is a format
    specification of a file system for storing files
    on optical media. It is an implementation of the
    ISO/IEC 13346 standard (also known as ECMA-167).
    It is considered to be a replacement of ISO
    9660, and today is widely used for (re)writable
    optical media. UDF is developed and maintained
    by the Optical Storage Technology Association
    (OSTA)."

    Did you mean to say "FAT or FAT32" instead?
     
    Theo, Oct 5, 2006
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  3. George Valkov

    Theo Guest

    George,

    I will be honest with, I never paid any attention to the format. I just
    let Nero take care of it based on what type of DVD I was making. So, I
    don't have any recommendations.

    I will look at the capability to format a hard drive to UDF, although I
    don't know of any advantage to it at the moment.
     
    Theo, Oct 5, 2006
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  4. Hello Theo!
    Can you tell me what format is recommended for DVD+/-R disk at once:
    ISO9660 only;?
    ISO9660+UDF?
    UDF only?
    I currently use ISO9660+UDF and always finalyze the disk. I also change the
    book-type to DVD-ROM for DVD+R disks.

    Would You recommend me a good file-system driver to enable UDF support on
    XP/2k3? If you know of any that:
    1: does not use/install any lower/upper filters on my DVD-burner.
    2: does not need any service running in background
    please let me know. The 1: is because lower/upper filters cause a lot of
    pain and problems conflicting with CD/DVD burning software. 2: is for the
    same reason.

    I don`t know much about UDF. I know it`s used to make CDs DVDs behave more
    like a hard disk and to alow files larger than 2GB.

    Because of its name: Universal Disk Format I did expect it to be universal
    format - not just for optical media, but for others as well. My expectation
    were just proved to be right as the beta 2 and now the RC1 of Vista came
    out.
    Run Command Prompt either from Vista or from Vista Setup disk. type:
    format /?
    or
    format X: /FS:UDF /V:UDF-hard-disk /Q /X
    to see that UDF is now available for hard-disks. Now copy some files and
    folders on the disk, and restart to XP or 2003 server. You will be notified
    that you are runnig out of space on the disk, because XP/2k3 does not have
    built-in write support for UDF (unless you have installed inCD). You still
    have read only access to any hard-disk using UDF from XP/2k3 system.
     
    George Valkov, Oct 5, 2006
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