The WTF Starts Now

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Test User, Jul 16, 2007.

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    Test User Guest
    Test User, Jul 16, 2007
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    Guest Guest

    I think Microsoft should change "The WOW Starts Now" to "The WTF Starts
    Now". After only one day of using Vista I've come to the realization that
    it simply wont work for me. All of my hardware is supported, however, most
    of the applications I require on a day to day basis would not run (or
    install). I've been doing a lot of reading regarding these type situations
    and it seems more people are dissatisfied with Vista than there are who
    actually like the new OS. Yea, it's pretty... but whats the use if there is
    a ton of software that just wont function. Frustrating.
    Guest, Jul 17, 2007
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    Mike Guest

    Well, that's the thing about being an early adopter. In a year or 2
    when the app vendors catch up, none of this will be an issue.

    Remember, XP was reviled for the same reasons when it was released. It
    was "too big, too dumbed down, too much eye candy". Now, 6 years
    later, it's the "greatest OS Microsoft has ever released!"

    Mike, Jul 17, 2007
  4. XP is so far the best version of Windows Microsoft has released. Some
    day Vista may be. The point is it was released prematurely, clearly
    behaves more like a beta and has more internal issues, where XP had
    mostly driver issues.

    I always snicker when people are brainwashed into accepting oh so what
    it's early Microsoft will fix it down the road with a service pak.
    Then Microsoft should give everybody that bought Vista early and were
    their unpaid beta testers a refund. I'd say $50 per customer sounds
    Adam Albright, Jul 17, 2007
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    Mike Guest

    Yep, it is NOW. What was your opinion in July of 2001? I know what
    mine was - "Windows 2000 is the best OS Microsoft has released".
    Yeah, uh huh, sure, whatever.

    The EXACT same things were said about XP. "It's incompatible, it's
    buggy, it's too hard for Windows 98 users to figure out, it needs WAY
    too much hardware for decent performance"!

    Get over it already. It's been out for 6 months. Come back next
    summer and we'll see where Vista is.

    Mike, Jul 17, 2007
  6. If you post details of the programs as well as exactly what happens,
    it is probable you will get solutions from someone.

    However without details, all I can suggest is Compatibility Mode.
    Have you checked with the manufacturers about Windows Vista
    If they are not compatible, be sure to let them know.

    So far I have only two programs that have problems with Windows Vista,
    one I never use.
    the other has workarounds for the features I do use.

    As for the numbers of people satisfied and dissatisfied, by its nature
    a newsgroup will attract those with problems.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 17, 2007
  7. Have you tried installing your "incompatible aps" in compatibility
    mode ?, if they worked in XP there's a strong chance they will also
    work with Vista.
    Put the installation CD/DVD into the drive and navigate to Control
    Panel >programs >use an older program with this version of Windows,
    iInstalling this way not via autorun could be the answer for you.

    FWIW, despite a negative response from MYOB, I was able to get MYOB
    Accounting 13 working successfully.
    But I understand your pain, Vistas is NOT as user friendly as M$ would
    have the general public believe, it's on a par with Ubuntu - unless you
    are a user from Win98 days, I'm not advocating the use of Linux here
    BTW ;-).

    Roberto de Cornielle, Jul 17, 2007
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    artfudd Guest

    Have you checked the websites for the applications you refer to for updates
    that support Vista? If your application is in these lists then there should
    be updated versions that run on Vista - these are not small lists of
    applications that work with Vista"

    Applications that have earned the "Certified for Windows Vista" logo
    To view the list of applications that have earned the "Certified for Windows
    Vista" logo, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
    Applications that have earned the "Works with Windows Vista" logo
    To view the list of applications that have earned the "Works with Windows
    Vista" logo, visit the following Microsoft Web site:

    Additionally, most people that are happy with Vista will not bother posting
    so in the forums and newsgroups.. so what you read about some not liking it
    is a small number of the people who use it.
    artfudd, Jul 17, 2007
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    artfudd Guest

    Did you note the dates on that blog? Vista has come a long way
    compatibility-wise (meaning many companies have upgraded their software &
    drivers) since then. The author of that blog is the one that sucks... :)
    artfudd, Jul 17, 2007
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    Mr. Arnold Guest

    Just what software are you talking about? And have you really checked with
    the vendor for solutions?

    Maybe, there is some equivalent free solution, until the software vendor for
    your applications that don't work catches up with Vista.

    You do know that Vista has compatibly settings to run applications in a mode
    like XP, Win 2K, Win 98, etc.
    Mr. Arnold, Jul 17, 2007
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    Lang Murphy Guest


    Thanks! You saved me the effort to respond! ;-)

    Lang Murphy, Jul 17, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    No Windows OS was ready for prime time when released as a final product
    when it really was/is a *public beta*. It's MS' usual M.O. to get their
    paying customers to do their work for them.

    The difference this time is that there are viable alternatives in Open
    Source when there wasn't for XP and all previous Windows releases.

    Alias, Jul 17, 2007
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    Test User Guest

    Wrong, I've been using FreeBSD on the desktop for years.
    FreeBSD is a viable desktop option, its very stable and super secure.
    We have a ports system with over 17,000 programs to choose from and
    their all free. My sister installed that bloated beast called Vista and
    I played around with it for about an hour - IT'S CRAP, it's modern day
    Windows/Me. I've never seen any system in my life eat resources like
    Vista does.

    If Windows is sooo damn hot, why are massive websites like yahoo and
    many ISP's gravitating and using BSD?
    Test User, Jul 17, 2007
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    Mike Guest

    Sure. The Open Source alternatives are so "viable" that they are STILL
    given away and they are STILL going nowhere on the desktop.

    Mike, Jul 17, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means
    and you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How
    much do you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her money
    make sex better?
    False. Millions of people are now enjoying Linux and millions more,
    thanks to Vista's intrusive "anti piracy" programs and the improvement
    of Linux for the desktop, will get it. The Linux newsgroups are filled
    with posts saying "I'm a newbie".

    Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
    piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
    someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
    Source and see what you've been missing.

    Alias, Jul 17, 2007
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    Mike Guest

    The same old Linux marketing drivel he has been spouting here for 6
    months now.

    Yes, we understand that Linux is "free". The problem is, no one cares.

    Mike, Jul 17, 2007
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    xfile Guest

    And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means and
    Price doesn't mean just the purchase price. Easily find support
    professionals, hardware and software compatibility issues, and training, and
    migration are also part of prices, and yes, they are part of problems for
    Vista as well, but those are also prices to be included sooner or later.

    So people don't just think about purchase price and those who think only
    about purchase price is silly and naive, the least to say.

    And please don't use women or wife or sex as an example. But just in case
    you want to know, I do pay her with all my love to have sex with her and
    that's why we call it - making love.

    Yes, we have to pay one way or the other.
    Yes, those are problems. Guess what, many are thinking Apple not Linux for
    alternatives. Why? Vista's UI is terrible, Apple is questionable depending
    on one's previous experience, and Linux has literally no UI concept.

    So if you must, please at least come up some real life benefits for
    switching over. All of the above are not even close to benefits.
    xfile, Jul 17, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    So far, I have paid NO money for Ubuntu and it runs great.
    See above.
    I'll use any example my little hearts desires to use.

    But just in case
    You consider love to be money? How crass can you get?
    False. I use the GUI for almost everything in Ubuntu. You obviously
    don't know what you're talking about. Beryl makes Aero look like an
    amateur did it.
    When the person I am explaining it to is open to change, there are no
    problems in their understanding. You, apparently, do have problems with

    Alias, Jul 17, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    Another Windows fan who can't respond to content and can only hurl the
    same, tired and unfounded insults.

    Alias, Jul 17, 2007
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    Mr. Happy Guest

    Mike wrote:

    Sadly, that's true.

    Shake Hands With,
    Mr. Happy
    Mr. Happy, Jul 17, 2007
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