this beta is a joke?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by olli, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. olli

    olli Guest

    hi,
    my experiences with the public beta:

    device manager: 4 yellow marks (3 unknown devices and usb audio). got the
    newest chipset drivers for my asus board (nforce 4 chipset) and the driver cd
    for my hybrid prodigy usb stick. the driver is not accepted and produces
    bluescreens. a standart usb audio drive can not be installed (code 10).
    following devices were not found after the first start: pinnacle tv card,
    logitech webcam, canon scanner.
    so the driver cab seems to be the same as from win95 *gg

    audio support: the line-in is on full volume no matter if you turn it
    down...it doesn´t work.
    screen cloning: no possibility to configure the lcd in a different way as
    the tv screen. you got 640x480 EVERYWHERE.
    clicking up to 4 times to put some icons in the recycle bin??? no comment.
    no internet: ethernet adapter seems to be ok...device manager says it works
    but i can´t get any connection. under xp with the same options it works fine.

    please don´t look at you release date - look for a OS that WORKS.
     
    olli, Jun 10, 2006
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  2. olli

    Kerry Brown Guest

    You should use the link on the desktop to report bugs. The whole point of a
    beta program is to find bugs. You found some. Please report them.
     
    Kerry Brown, Jun 10, 2006
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  3. olli

    olli Guest

    if i got my internet started under vista i will post bugs.
    i just formatted and will reinstall now.
    but the fact that vista had problems to install a logitech webcam for
    example is poor. xp got it without prompting.
     
    olli, Jun 10, 2006
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  4. olli

    Tom Scales Guest

    Then blame Logitech. Sounds like they haven't participated in the program
    very well, have they?
     
    Tom Scales, Jun 10, 2006
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  5. olli

    Richard Hay Guest

    There are no Vista drivers for the Logitech - I own one as well and use the
    XP drivers with good success.
     
    Richard Hay, Jun 10, 2006
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  6. Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Jun 10, 2006
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  7. olli

    Ribeye Guest

    People are crazy. Did they think this was going to be a final version or
    something.
    Here are the facts:
    Microsoft has to push the envelope, if they didn't we would have another XP.
    If they included all the old drivers what would be the sense of a new OS.
    They release a new OS and everyone else has to catch up, eventually all the
    software maufacturers will catch up and everything will work properly, all
    for our benieft. Newer drivers usually equal better performance Remember it's
    a BETA, not even a RC1. When everyone does catch we'll all be happy and Vista
    will slowly become the OS of choice. REMEMBER the whole idea of a new OS is
    exactly that IT'S NEW and it'll take some time to iron out all the bugs.
    That's where you come in the so called beta testers. It's your job to find
    the bugs not whine about them and when you do find them REPORT them.That'll
    make quicker work of getting the final product (and all it's corresponding
    drivers) out to you (The Public) in good working form.....Eric
     
    Ribeye, Jun 11, 2006
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  8. olli

    Bones Guest

    Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm tired of people who don't even knw
    how to burn an iso image, installing a beta OS and then whining when it
    doesnt work as well as XP..of course it doest work like XP does...XP is 5
    years old and Vista is at least 6 months from release!
     
    Bones, Jun 12, 2006
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  9. olli

    JacKSProuT Guest

    Can I just laugh now? Some how in the course of installation and running the
    BETA both of my Raptor HD's went bye bye, have I complained, no, did I report
    a bug ya even though I have no idea what exactly happened. THe point is like
    you guys have said, it is a BETA, more so you CHOSE to run it. Knowing that
    it is not COMPLETE you take the RISK and UNDERSTAND that it is not a COMPLETE
    OS.

    meh!!

    Hey hows the weather there?
     
    JacKSProuT, Jun 12, 2006
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  10. olli

    Omoks Guest

    Don't be a moron. This is not just a beta. It's a public beta directed at
    potential consumers not IT pro or developers. Vista is crap. It's got more
    holes than Microsoft will be able to fix. Vista is going to have the biggest
    service pack in software history, basically a whole new OS.

    People should always report report problems that they have via the reporting
    services embedded in Vista, nonethe less this Beta 2 is really an Alpha
    application.

    Microsoft didn't push this beta to the public because they wanted to be
    nice, they realized that there were a million bugs in Vista that even all the
    IT pro and developers wouldn't be able to resolve in a year and considering
    that it is scheduled for release later this year for businesses they are
    trying their best to at least be a able to release a commercial beta of Vista.

    I want to thank ATI and Creative for taking the time and resources to
    release beta drivers of the hardware for Vista. They are part of only a few
    companies that have faith in vista. Considering that MICROSOFT did not even
    release beta drivers of their intellityp/point keyboard and mouse. How am I
    supposed to test a program when I can't fully utilize my keyboard which is
    made by MICROSOFT.

    Microsoft really needs to get their act together.

    The only guys that are really working at MICROSOFT ARE THE OFFICE 2007
    developers. You can tell a lot of hardwork went into OFFICE 2007. They may
    call it a beta but I call it complete. Office is the only true Microsoft
    program that I'm proud to be beta testing and truly look forward to the
    retail versions.


    Vista still has a long way to go.
     
    Omoks, Jun 13, 2006
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  11. olli

    Omoks Guest

    Don't be a moron. This is not just a beta. It's a public beta directed at
    potential consumers not IT pro or developers. Vista is crap. It's got more
    holes than Microsoft will be able to fix. Vista is going to have the biggest
    service pack in software history, basically a whole new OS.

    People should always report report problems that they have via the reporting
    services embedded in Vista, nonethe less this Beta 2 is really an Alpha
    application.

    Microsoft didn't push this beta to the public because they wanted to be
    nice, they realized that there were a million bugs in Vista that even all the
    IT pro and developers wouldn't be able to resolve in a year and considering
    that it is scheduled for release later this year for businesses they are
    trying their best to at least be a able to release a commercial beta of Vista.

    I want to thank ATI and Creative for taking the time and resources to
    release beta drivers of the hardware for Vista. They are part of only a few
    companies that have faith in vista. Considering that MICROSOFT did not even
    release beta drivers of their intellityp/point keyboard and mouse. How am I
    supposed to test a program when I can't fully utilize my keyboard which is
    made by MICROSOFT.

    Microsoft really needs to get their act together.

    The only guys that are really working at MICROSOFT ARE THE OFFICE 2007
    developers. You can tell a lot of hardwork went into OFFICE 2007. They may
    call it a beta but I call it complete. Office is the only true Microsoft
    program that I'm proud to be beta testing and truly look forward to the
    retail versions.


    Vista still has a long way to go.
     
    Omoks, Jun 13, 2006
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  12. olli

    JacKSProuT Guest

    Call people a moron and then act like a n00b and double post your reply, your
    GENIUS!!!!

    Dork :p
     
    JacKSProuT, Jun 24, 2006
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  13. olli

    Cheezer Guest

    Im not having too many issues with Vista, seems like if one knows what one is
    doing you can get thru the bumps. I enjoy a challenge with the Beta
    software, gives on a little insight into the OS.
     
    Cheezer, Jun 24, 2006
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  14. olli

    Jerry P Guest

    Strange
    After fixing a few bugs, this computer (dual 2.4) and latest ATI, this
    system is working fine.
    installed 2007 office, a couple bugs

    Give them a chance

    Jerry P
     
    Jerry P, Jun 24, 2006
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  15. olli

    William Guest

    So far, Vista has been the best beta OS that I have ever run. I am very
    impressed with it.

    William
     
    William, Jun 24, 2006
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  16. olli

    Omoks Guest

    Yeah! Sorry! You're such a genius. Read your post. How constructive. Go cry
    to mama. You need the breast milk.
     
    Omoks, Jun 25, 2006
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  17. olli

    Omoks Guest

    If you guys read my post. I didn't say Vista was a bad OS. I love its
    potential. What I said was that its more of an alpha than a beta. Sure Vista
    works well out of the box. But thats not the point and I'm positive thats not
    what Microsoft is looking for.

    Microsoft asked people like me, you, them to test the beta. I've given
    feedback to them as necessery. The problem is that some people just don't
    like hearing others criticize MS.

    Windows Vista is like Windows 95. It's a whole new OS in most parts. Its
    going to have more than enoug bugs by default which will have to be cleaed up
    during the life of the OS.

    Also I wasn't all out against MS, I did commend them on Office 2007. Which I
    love.

    Remember this is a beta. Itssupposed to have flaws, anyone who claims their
    Vista Beta 2 works flawlessly is joking.

    If you go to the Vista MSDN site you'll see over a thousand bug fixes
    planned for the next release.
     
    Omoks, Jun 25, 2006
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  18. olli

    Omoks Guest

    If you guys read my post. I didn't say Vista was a bad OS. I love its
    potential. What I said was that its more of an alpha than a beta. Sure Vista
    works well out of the box. But thats not the point and I'm positive thats not
    what Microsoft is looking for.

    Microsoft asked people like me, you, them to test the beta. I've given
    feedback to them as necessery. The problem is that some people just don't
    like hearing others criticize MS.

    Windows Vista is like Windows 95. It's a whole new OS in most parts. Its
    going to have more than enoug bugs by default which will have to be cleaed up
    during the life of the OS.

    Also I wasn't all out against MS, I did commend them on Office 2007. Which I
    love.

    Remember this is a beta. Itssupposed to have flaws, anyone who claims their
    Vista Beta 2 works flawlessly is joking.

    If you go to the Vista MSDN site you'll see over a thousand bug fixes
    planned for the next release.
     
    Omoks, Jun 25, 2006
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  19. In red-letter text on the GetReady page:

    "From http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/preview.mspx

    "Note: This is beta code and should not be used in a production environment
    or on a main machine in the home. Beta 2 is intended for developers, IT
    professionals and technology experts to continue or begin their testing of
    Windows Vista. Before you decide to use Beta 2, you should feel comfortable
    with installing operating systems, updating drivers, and general PC
    troubleshooting. Some risks of using beta operating systems include hardware
    and software incompatibility and system instability. If you have concerns
    about installing this beta software on your computer, we encourage you to
    obtain the final release version of Windows Vista when it is available in
    2007."
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 25, 2006
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  20. So "crap" means good in your vocabulary?

     
    Ryan Spooner [Ryster], Jun 25, 2006
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