TMPGEnc-movies and MCE

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Rolf Molini, Feb 10, 2005.

  1. Rolf Molini

    Rolf Molini Guest

    Hi all,

    to convert dvr-ms on a separate machine (not my MCE) I use L. Burgos DVD Ripper (and ][Muxer) to split video- and audio-stream from
    dvr-ms, then I use an excellent small cutter program (MPEGSchnitt) and finally I remux A/V-streams into one mpg with TMPGEnc (namely
    with the "Multiplex"-MPEG-Tool and outputting MPEG2-Program-Stream (VBR)). This means for example, that the Bitrate is conserved
    througout the whole process and I do not change other options I could with TMPGEnc (Interlace, GOP, ...).

    But the result is not really satisfying: On my MCE-machine I can play the generated mpegs via MediaPlayer10 without problem but MCE
    immediately crashes upon starting such a movie. There is an error message which points to an exe-file which probably belongs to the
    NVIDIA-decoder I use (I must checkout this still).

    Anyway, I cannot quite understand, why the mpeg-file is decoded properly when run with MediaPlayer but MCE cannot do this.

    Btw, with MCE I can play all TMPGEnc-movies I found somewhere on the net , only not the ones I created myself with the default

    Of course I could use the countless options within TMPGEnc but does anyone know, which ones could be important for MCE?


    Rolf Molini, Feb 10, 2005
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    NEOSG Guest


    I use TMPGEnc 3.0 Xpress w/Dolby AC3 plug-in to rip the DVD's. Then, I use
    TMPGEnc to encode the files. I use AnyDVD to handle ***.

    The video quality is terrific, but the files are rather large. So, this
    method is only suitable if you are willing to sacrifice a large amount of
    disk space. I have a buttload of disc space, so I keep a small DVD library of
    a few hundred movies online all the time.

    I would be happy to email you off list a saved configuration from TMPGEnc
    3.0 that I use. If you want it, just reply to this post with your email

    BTW, the article that I used to get started on this was:

    NEOSG, Feb 10, 2005
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    Bob [MVP] Guest

    Try remuxing the A/V streams with Xmuxer instead of TMPGEnc.

    Microsoft MVP
    Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Bob [MVP], Feb 10, 2005
  4. Rolf Molini

    Rolf Molini Guest

    Hi all,

    thanks for your advice and especially for your offer, NEOSG.

    By now, I checked this issue out and found the following:

    I remuxed with XMuxer and received the same result. Then, within TMPGEnc I used a DVD-default-setting to remux but still the mpg can
    not be played with MCE2004. Finally I tried one of the older movies I mentioned which could be played before with MCE2004 and - no

    So, the remuxed movies are perfectly o.k. but my MCE no longer is. The error message points to eshell.exe and the module, which is part of the NVIDIA-decoder I am trying out for quite a time now.

    Obviously MCE2004 and the NVIDIA-decoder have some compatibility issue regarding playback of mpegs (it is not a genuine problem of
    NVIDIA because with WMP10 playback works).

    The funny thing is: I switched from the original decoder (PowerDVD 5) to NVIDIA because with the first I experienced freezing while
    spooling TV-Shows over and over again and I (rightly) suspected the decoder to be responsible for this. The spooling/freezing-issue
    was fixed with NVIDIA-decoder on the one hand but on the other - as I can see now - another issue arose in playing mpegs (this
    worked perfectly with PowerDVD 5).

    On my search for I noticed that the spooling/freezing-issue is very common. A second alternative to PowerDVD might be
    WinDVD. But at the moment I am waiting for a Hauppauge!-dual-tuner-card to upgrade to MCE2005 and I have read some posts saying that
    there are problems with MCE2005 and NVIDIA-decoder as well. So, for the time being I am waiting for MCE2005-upgrade and after that I
    will check out PowerDVD, NVIDIA and WinDVD. I hope there will be some combination where both issues (spooling/freezing and
    mpeg-playing) will be fixed.

    If not I think I will have to accept that mpegs can only be played back with WMP10 where I can start, stop, pause and resume (but
    not spool) with my IR-remote. But this might be not that worse since my mpegs are readily edited and contain no commercials any

    Best regards and thanks again

    Rolf Molini, Feb 12, 2005
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    Rolf Molini Guest


    I tried to be VERY clever and use the Video Decoder Checkup Utility to temporarily change the preferred decoder from NVIDIA to
    PowerDVD (these two are the only ones registered; PowerDVD-decoder as usually remained although the PowerDVD application has been
    completely deinstalled).

    But still eshell.exe crashes with module as the reason.

    Bad luck :)

    Rolf Molini, Feb 12, 2005
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    Bob [MVP] Guest

    It's always been best to only have one MPEG-2 decoder
    installed. So if you want to experiment with different
    decoders, make sure you completely remove one before
    installing another.

    Microsoft MVP
    Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Bob [MVP], Feb 12, 2005
  7. Rolf Molini

    Rolf Molini Guest

    Hi Bob,

    I agree with you but one question remains: Does the decoder checkup utility really change the decoder used by MCE? After changing
    settings I restarted MCE of course, but ovbiously (see my last post) MCE still used the same decoder.

    Do you think, a reboot is necessary?

    Another interesting thing is, that on my editing machine with the checkup utility I find loads of various decoders installed but not
    one of them is marked as being MCE-compatible. Still, I can playback dvr-ms on this machine. How can that be?

    Rolf Molini, Feb 12, 2005
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    Karen Guest

    How do you know how many decoders you have and where they are so they can be

    Karen, Feb 13, 2005
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    jeff Guest

    You need DECCheck which is a microsoft utility that tells you which decoders
    are on your system and lets you even make one preferred over the others
    jeff, Feb 13, 2005
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    Karen Guest

    Thanks Jeff. Found it!
    Karen, Feb 13, 2005
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