To buy? or not to buy?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by marc.nutty, Jul 8, 2006.

  1. marc.nutty

    marc.nutty Guest

    Hi,
    Well hopefully the RC1 and 2 will be a lil faster than the beta 2.

    Though any info on the price of each version (mainly Home and Ultimate)? and
    will you be buying a copy for your home comps or summuts? or just reverting
    back to XP when all the free versions end?

    Also, do any of the packages enable you to install on more than one comp? or
    is it like just one copy, one computer?

    cheers,
     
    marc.nutty, Jul 8, 2006
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  2. marc.nutty

    Kerry Brown Guest

    I don't think anyone will have a definitive answer to your questions until
    the RTM is released.
     
    Kerry Brown, Jul 8, 2006
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  3. This I heard from Balmer(sp?) during an interview on tv.

    This is the pricing strategy. You will pay similar as you've paid before.
    Students and teachers will have to purchase the Home Edition rather than pay
    the academic pricing. He also mentioned something about Windows Live,
    although I have no idea what it's about. The various editions like the Home
    Edition, Ultimate are strategy for different pricing. Similar goes for
    office.

    Ouch! This is gonna be expensive for me. I think they should have a loyal
    customer discount. Maybe I'll get a job with Microsoft, I heard software is
    real cheap then.
     
    Mario Rosario, Jul 8, 2006
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  4. marc.nutty

    dotcom Guest

    Yeah, the days of only having one PC in the household are gone!
    Now it's two and three PC's plus a laptop.
    Could get pricey!
    dotcom
     
    dotcom, Jul 8, 2006
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  5. I wish there was a Family Plan like Apple has for OS/X. Unlikely.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2006
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  6. No RC2 is projected. There are many reasons for slow performance. The code
    still contains debugging code, the code is not optimized, and beta drivers
    are not up to speed either, plus remaining bugs.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2006
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  7. marc.nutty

    KWE Guest

    Colin Barnhorst wrote On 7/8/2006 10:41 AM:
    Seeing as how Windows Genuine Advantage anti-piracy is solely aimed at
    folks who buy retail copies and install on multiple home PCs, I think it
    rather unlikely that Microsoft will create a family-pak. They have
    passed on that opportunity each time they had a chance to do it.
     
    KWE, Jul 8, 2006
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  8. As Vista gets refined, I expect performance to increase.

    Microsoft has not published pricing information other than to sat something
    like similar pricing to what is currently available.

    I doubt there will be any multi/family packs but Microsoft can change the
    strategy.
    I expect the one license one computer as has been with all previous
    Microsoft consumer OSs.

    As for costing more for those with multiple computers.
    Not a problem at all since those users can choose which if any computers
    need Vista.
    A mix of OSs with Vista as now should cause no problems.
    People should only upgrade to Vista only if:
    1. The computer system can support Vista
    2. There is a benefit expected from the upgrade.

    As usual most going to Vista will get Vista on their new computer which will
    be due for replacement for other reasons.
    So Vista cost will be largely a non issue for most.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 8, 2006
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  9. I don't know of any cases where RC1 = RTM, so therefore RC2 and
    successors is likely.
     
    Mike Williams, Jul 8, 2006
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  10. When did RC2 = RTM?
    AFAIK, an RC has not been = to RTM so there may be a flaw in your logic.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 8, 2006
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  11. Perhaps Colin was intimating "in the CPP" as a contextual parameter, as most
    of the posters here, including myself, do not have access to interim drops.
     
    Mark D. VandenBerg, Jul 8, 2006
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  12. RC1 is a stage. The first builds are not the ones released to testers
    outside of MS. The first RC1 build you will see will merely be the one that
    passed standards for release to outside testing.

    RC1 will evolve through a hundred or more builds while the rtm branch is
    being built with successive builds until it meets the standards for release
    as Vista final.

    Several of the RC1 interim builds will be released to outside testing, like
    the TechBeta program and the TAP's. All this time the successive builds
    (new builds are made overnight) will be in use by folks inside MS.

    Through all of this the teams at MS are going head to head over inclusion
    and exclusion of features and making judgments about projects at to whether
    resources will permit meeting standards in time for release. If not, such
    projects will be deferred until Vienna. Some work on Vienna is already
    under way.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2006
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  13. Where can I download my copy of Vienna? Is this included in the CPP? Will
    my same product key work? Will it include Sudoku? Will it work on the
    computer I don't have yet? What about my old one that doesn't work anymore?
    How much will it cost?

    Well. you opened the door...
     
    Mark D. VandenBerg, Jul 8, 2006
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  14. Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2006
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  15. marc.nutty

    MICHAEL Guest

    What about Fiji?

    Perhaps, that will be a SP1 or SP2 for Vista.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Fiji"
    Windows "Fiji" is rumored to be Microsoft's present codename for either an update to or a
    successor of Windows Vista, Microsoft's upcoming operating system. Microsoft has not
    acknowledged this release, or any of its features.

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1948644,00.asp

    Will the delay in Microsoft's Windows Vista have a domino effect on other planned releases of
    Windows?

    Partner sources close to the company said that Microsoft has sketched out plans for Windows
    "Fiji" (also referred to by some Microsoft watchers as Vista R2)—the version of Windows set to
    follow Vista—as for Windows "Vienna," the successor to Fiji, partner sources close to the
    company said.

    Microsoft has not shared broadly its working feature set for Fiji, according to partners
    contacted by Microsoft Watch.

    Nor have company executives talked about what's on tap for Vienna, the version of Windows
    formerly code-named Blackcomb.

    And exactly when either Fiji or Vienna will hit is anyone's guess.

    Since Microsoft announced at the end of March that Vista was running behind schedule and would
    not be ready to launch in time for the 2006 holiday season, Microsoft brass have gone mum about
    its future plans for its desktop and server Windows releases.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"

    The code name "Blackcomb" was originally assigned to a version of Windows that was planned to
    follow Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler"; both named after the Whistler-Blackcomb resort) in
    both client and server versions. However, in August 2001, the release of Blackcomb was pushed
    back several years and Vista (originally codenamed "Longhorn" after a bar in the
    Whistler-Blackcomb resort) was announced as a release between XP and Blackcomb. Since then, the
    status of Blackcomb has undergone many alterations and PR manipulations, ranging from Blackcomb
    being scrapped entirely, to becoming a server-only release. As of 2006, it is still planned as
    both a client and server release with a current release estimate of anytime between 2009-2012,
    although no firm release date or target has yet been publicized.

    In January 2006, Blackcomb was renamed to "Vienna",[1] and in April 2006, Windows "Fiji"
    emerged as a codename for an interim release between Vista and "Vienna".
     
    MICHAEL, Jul 8, 2006
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  16. William R. Mosher, Jul 8, 2006
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  17. Thankfully none of the builds were called 'Bronx' or 'Harlem', or 'Hanoi'. I think a zoom view of the 'Hanoi Hilton' might be a little too much for those who were there in the late 1960's and early 1970's.

    William


    What about Fiji?

    Perhaps, that will be a SP1 or SP2 for Vista.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Fiji"
    Windows "Fiji" is rumored to be Microsoft's present codename for either an update to or a
    successor of Windows Vista, Microsoft's upcoming operating system. Microsoft has not
    acknowledged this release, or any of its features.

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1948644,00.asp

    Will the delay in Microsoft's Windows Vista have a domino effect on other planned releases of
    Windows?

    Partner sources close to the company said that Microsoft has sketched out plans for Windows
    "Fiji" (also referred to by some Microsoft watchers as Vista R2)—the version of Windows set to
    follow Vista—as for Windows "Vienna," the successor to Fiji, partner sources close to the
    company said.

    Microsoft has not shared broadly its working feature set for Fiji, according to partners
    contacted by Microsoft Watch.

    Nor have company executives talked about what's on tap for Vienna, the version of Windows
    formerly code-named Blackcomb.

    And exactly when either Fiji or Vienna will hit is anyone's guess.

    Since Microsoft announced at the end of March that Vista was running behind schedule and would
    not be ready to launch in time for the 2006 holiday season, Microsoft brass have gone mum about
    its future plans for its desktop and server Windows releases.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"

    The code name "Blackcomb" was originally assigned to a version of Windows that was planned to
    follow Windows XP (codenamed "Whistler"; both named after the Whistler-Blackcomb resort) in
    both client and server versions. However, in August 2001, the release of Blackcomb was pushed
    back several years and Vista (originally codenamed "Longhorn" after a bar in the
    Whistler-Blackcomb resort) was announced as a release between XP and Blackcomb. Since then, the
    status of Blackcomb has undergone many alterations and PR manipulations, ranging from Blackcomb
    being scrapped entirely, to becoming a server-only release. As of 2006, it is still planned as
    both a client and server release with a current release estimate of anytime between 2009-2012,
    although no firm release date or target has yet been publicized.

    In January 2006, Blackcomb was renamed to "Vienna",[1] and in April 2006, Windows "Fiji"
    emerged as a codename for an interim release between Vista and "Vienna".
     
    William R. Mosher, Jul 8, 2006
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  18. It might be an R2 but I doubt if it will be a service pack.

     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2006
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