To Buy or Not To Buy?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Marc Nutty, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. Marc Nutty

    Marc Nutty Guest

    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    Marc Nutty, Jul 9, 2006
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  2. Cost is not expected to be much different from XP. Like XP, each copy of
    Vista will be licensed for one computer only. You can save a few dollars by
    buying a second license for a another computer just as you can now with XP
    but the difference isn't enough to matter very much. You will be able to
    buy an upgrade edition in some situations but I don't think MS has published
    the upgrade matrix yet.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 9, 2006
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  3. Marc Nutty

    rjohnson11 Guest

    For those with families/students I hope Microsoft will keep the tradition of
    selling student and teacher versions of the Vista operating system as they do
    with Windows XP and Office 2003.
     
    rjohnson11, Jul 9, 2006
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  4. While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

    William
    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    William R. Mosher, Jul 9, 2006
    #4
  5. Be sure to share your concern with MS via the Feedback link on your desktop.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 9, 2006
    #5
  6. That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
    While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

    William
    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 9, 2006
    #6
  7. Marc Nutty

    Jonah Guest

    I have to have one copy of ultimate for work purposes, it will stay on
    a test box, other than that I will keep a XP box for games and video
    editing and the rest are on SuSE Linux as they are now.

    No I won't be upgrading to Vista, from what I have seen it is going to
    be a lot of pain with not much left that was originally promised.

    Looks very good, interesting to play with but from a commercial POV
    forget it.

    I do like Office 12 though, excellent.

    Jonah
     
    Jonah, Jul 9, 2006
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  8. Marc Nutty

    Richard Hay Guest

    Richard Hay, Jul 10, 2006
    #8
  9. I intend on getting the final release of Vista for my computer because I know that under the hood it is a much better OS than XP. However, I would bet that most people do not know or care about what is under the hood as long as it does what they want it to do. which is why I see many users staying with XP until the times comes when they purchase a new computer. My father in law would be still running 98 if he did not buy a new computer 3 years ago. Even now he prefers the old classic look rather than Luna.

    William

    That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
    While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

    William
    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    William R. Mosher, Jul 10, 2006
    #9
  10. Marc Nutty

    John Guest

    I agree, I personally see no reason to upgrade to Vista when it comes out,
    maybe on a new system if they haven't made their WGA and Activation so
    annoying that its like renting the software instead of owning a license.

    While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are
    going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer.
    Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary
    and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP
    using some third party programs.
     
    John, Jul 10, 2006
    #10
  11. Exactly like renting; you do not own the software. Read the EULA that
    comes with most software and you will see that the end user is only
    "borrowing" the software from the software company under the license
    agreement.

    This is the main reason why I offer GNU software first to my clients and
    then if they persist move onto closed source proprietary software. And
    yes, I do train them how to use the GNU software if they ask.

    -Luke
     
    Luke Fitzwater, Jul 10, 2006
    #11
  12. Marc Nutty

    John Guest

    Yeah, well while it might provide IPv6 by default, along with other
    improvements, some of the under the hood stuff doesn't really matter. I
    don't feel that the little stuff is worth paying for, and Vista is not like
    Win2k to WinXP... There is some major changes under the hood that have so
    far been some real issues with drivers, and software that need to be solved.

    Also the new firewall is not user friendly by any means, which is why the
    outbound was set to allow by default, they don't even prompt for outbound
    connections so either the rule allows it or not. Now I have been using rule
    based firewalls for years, but the average user still usually finds ZA
    complicated at first, the rules configuration/might as well be in latin to
    those who don't wan to take the time to learn.

    That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is
    a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and
    so on.
    While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are
    going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer.
    Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary
    and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP
    using some third party programs.

    William
    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress
    lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of
    you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP
    once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could
    I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different
    one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    John, Jul 10, 2006
    #12
  13. I just want the egg timer.
    I intend on getting the final release of Vista for my computer because I know that under the hood it is a much better OS than XP. However, I would bet that most people do not know or care about what is under the hood as long as it does what they want it to do. which is why I see many users staying with XP until the times comes when they purchase a new computer. My father in law would be still running 98 if he did not buy a new computer 3 years ago. Even now he prefers the old classic look rather than Luna.

    William

    That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
    While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

    William
    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    Mario Rosario, Jul 10, 2006
    #13
  14. I don't believe I should pay for something borrowed.
     
    Mario Rosario, Jul 10, 2006
    #14
  15. Your taxes pay for the public library...
     
    Mark D. VandenBeg, Jul 10, 2006
    #15
  16. To quote the famous line from Shakespeare's Omlette, "You must be yolking!"
    I just want the egg timer.
    I intend on getting the final release of Vista for my computer because I know that under the hood it is a much better OS than XP. However, I would bet that most people do not know or care about what is under the hood as long as it does what they want it to do. which is why I see many users staying with XP until the times comes when they purchase a new computer. My father in law would be still running 98 if he did not buy a new computer 3 years ago. Even now he prefers the old classic look rather than Luna.

    William

    That might be true if you are only looking at the GUI, but under the hood is a whole other matter. The TCP/IP stack has been completely rewritten, and so on.
    While I do love Vista, I think there are going to be a lot of people are going to stay with XP unless they are in the market for a new computer. Vista is wonderful but I think it is more evolutionary than revolutionary and I have not seen anything that Vista does that you cannot do with XP using some third party programs.

    William
    Hi,

    Well, I am kinda new to testing Windows OS's, however I'm guessin the
    productivity and efficiency of Vista will improve as the build progress lol.

    However, due to the multiple versions, and quite high costs, how many of you
    will be buying Vista when it is released? or be converting back to XP once
    the free beta versions expire?

    Also, If i bought Vista, is it only licenced for one computer? or could I
    install it on my other desktops (2) with the same key or a different one? Or
    would I have to buy it twice lol? :S

    Cheers,
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 10, 2006
    #16
  17. Unfortunately you have no choice, unless of course you want to write the
    whole thing yourself. Almost every license says what I paraphrased; the
    only exception to this I've seen is the GNU's GPL.

    -Luke
     
    Luke Fitzwater, Jul 11, 2006
    #17
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