To clarify the link for CWShredder Update

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed me
    for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my post
    Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday, February
    25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)

    I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any way
    distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that person.

    Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
    links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
    to do so.

    Windows Support Center
    James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
    http://www.aumha.org/
    http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
    http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
    No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
    bottom of this page.
    http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
    http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

    This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
    support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the NNTP
    equivalent, newsgroups.
    http://www.dts-l.org/
    http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
    Jim Eshelmans original link :
    http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
    now redirects to:
    http://www.aumha.org/

    So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it appears
    that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
    offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
    could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
    worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
    judge.

    Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
    Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
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  2. Hi LuckyStrike,

    I can't speak for Slav, but thank you for posting the link.
    I haven't been able to update from Merijn's site for the last week or so and
    I definitely appreciate the update.

    --
    Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
    Associate Expert
    Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
    http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
    Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
     
    Larry Samuels, Feb 25, 2004
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  3. You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
    http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

    --
    George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

    For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
    http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

    | Hi LuckyStrike,
    |
    | I can't speak for Slav, but thank you for posting the link.
    | I haven't been able to update from Merijn's site for the last week or so and
    | I definitely appreciate the update.
    |
    | --
    | Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
    | Associate Expert
    | Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
    | http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
    | Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
    | message | > This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed
    | > me
    | > for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my
    | > post
    | > Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday,
    | > February
    | > 25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
    | > | >
    | > I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any
    | > way
    | > distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that
    | > person.
    | >
    | > Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
    | > links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
    | > to do so.
    | >
    | > Windows Support Center
    | > James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
    | > http://www.aumha.org/
    | > http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
    | > http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
    | > No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
    | > bottom of this page.
    | > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
    | > http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    | >
    | > This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
    | > support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the
    | > NNTP
    | > equivalent, newsgroups.
    | > http://www.dts-l.org/
    | > http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
    | > Jim Eshelmans original link :
    | > http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
    | > now redirects to:
    | > http://www.aumha.org/
    | >
    | > So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it
    | > appears
    | > that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
    | > offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
    | > could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
    | > worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
    | > judge.
    | >
    | > Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
    | > Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
    | > --
    | > LuckyStrike
    | >
    | > --------------------------------------------------------------------
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
    George \(Bindar Dundat\), Feb 25, 2004
    #3
  4. I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
    "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's site and Jim
    is a very well known, highly respected, and long time member of the MVP
    community. There is absolutely no reason to ever fear going to his pages. A
    search of many MS groups will document the number of times that we send people
    to Jim's invaluable pages and I even include one of them in my signature. I too
    think you deserve an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.

    --
    George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

    For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
    http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

    message | This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed me
    | for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my post
    | Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday, February
    | 25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
    | |
    | I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any way
    | distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that person.
    |
    | Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
    | links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
    | to do so.
    |
    | Windows Support Center
    | James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
    | http://www.aumha.org/
    | http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
    | http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
    | No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
    | bottom of this page.
    | http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
    | http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    |
    | This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
    | support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the NNTP
    | equivalent, newsgroups.
    | http://www.dts-l.org/
    | http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
    | Jim Eshelmans original link :
    | http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
    | now redirects to:
    | http://www.aumha.org/
    |
    | So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it appears
    | that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
    | offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
    | could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
    | worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
    | judge.
    |
    | Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
    | Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
    | --
    | LuckyStrike
    |
    | --------------------------------------------------------------------
    |
    |
     
    George \(Bindar Dundat\), Feb 25, 2004
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  5. Larry Samuels, Feb 25, 2004
    #5
  6. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    Doc and Larry,

    You're both very welcome. I should have made it a bit more clear initially,
    as the URL is one that does not have a very appealing nor inviting name.

    Due to the DDoS Attack that has been ongoing for the last week or better,
    most, as you well know, have been unable to access *any* program downloads,
    updates, help sites such as Spyware Info, TomCoyote,Merijn and the like.
    Customarily, Merjin will have 3, if not more, updates to CWShredder in a
    weeks time. I just felt that somewhere one would find a site not yet hit by
    the attack. I sure hope that Jim's site will help others with this, and he
    offers a great Web Site in general. I'm also hoping that all of this
    *attention* that has been made by having to repost and clarify all of this
    will not bring any undue weight to bear upon his site, or the availability
    of updates through the same link therein.

    Thanks for your support, and my best regards.
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
    #6
  7. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    Still showing version 1.49 George, as I had pointed out in my initial post.
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
    #7
  8. No problem Larry.
    You can thank Silj for that one. You might want to get him to add you to his
    mailing list.

    --
    George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

    For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
    http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

    | Thanks George!
    | That has definitely been added to bookmarks.
    |
    | --
    | Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
    | Associate Expert
    | Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
    | http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
    | Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
    | | > You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
    | > http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
    | >
    | > --
    | > George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
    |
    |
     
    George \(Bindar Dundat\), Feb 25, 2004
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  9. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    George, I deeply appreciate your understanding and support on this. You
    know, as do so many others of Jims wonderful site and his unflagging
    devotion to helping others. I should have realized that the links URL might
    have had "suspicious connotations" for those who lack that familiarity
    however. By the same token, who the heck would try to spread a virus with a
    link that said get virus download here? :-D

    I would never knowingly -or in anyway- do such a thing as that of which I
    was accused. The fact is, that I only have respect and regards of the
    highest order for the MS newsgroups and those that come or "work" here. It
    is also my feeling to try to help as much as I have been helped; *and* I
    have been helped in so many ways by so many people both "known" (at this
    point) and unknown. Sharing is the right thing to do.

    I would just like to say in my own defense that being accused of
    distributing viruses is a very serious matter, not to be taken lightly.

    Again, I appreciate your kindness and your having stood behind me in
    this.<S>

    Best Regards,
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
    #9
  10. LuckyStrike

    Jim Eshelman Guest

    <blush>Gosh!</blush>

    Thanks, George.

    --
    Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
    AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
    Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
    Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
     
    Jim Eshelman, Feb 25, 2004
    #10
  11. No problem. Anything to avoid changing my sig. <G>

    --
    George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

    For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
    http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

    | George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
    | > I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
    | > "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's
    | > site and Jim is a very well known, highly respected, and long time
    | > member of the MVP community. There is absolutely no reason to ever
    | > fear going to his pages. A search of many MS groups will document
    | > the number of times that we send people to Jim's invaluable pages and
    | > I even include one of them in my signature. I too think you deserve
    | > an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.
    |
    | <blush>Gosh!</blush>
    |
    | Thanks, George.
    |
    | --
    | Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
    | AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
    | Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    | Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
    | Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
    |
    |
     
    George \(Bindar Dundat\), Feb 25, 2004
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  12. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    Jim,

    I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others and for
    the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope the ruckus and
    uproar I have potentially created will not have any untoward and negative
    impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest apologies, and hope that in some
    way I can be forgiven or at least to somehow (how?) make up for it.
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
    #12
  13. LuckyStrike

    Jim Eshelman Guest

    Thanks to George, I just wandered into this thread, and I'm not sure where
    all the brouhaha started - but thought I'd say a thing or three in response
    to what I've been reading.

    A whole lotta folks (thank goodness) are joining the "parasite fight" these
    days and, while many are doing a spectacular job, nobody has moved more
    mountains than Merijn, who has my respect and gratitude. For his programs
    and instructions, I link straight to the source -- except, of course, when
    the source is unavailable, as with the recent and prolonged DDoS attacks he
    has suffered.

    When this hit - and Merijn's site became, for a time unavailable - Silj was
    kind enough to give me alternate download links for most of what's
    available. I've added these liberally in various places on my site (always -
    in case it matters to anyone - marking them as alternate links to
    distinguish them from the primary ones).

    My own evolving best efforts to aid the war can be found here:
    http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm
    http://forum.mvps.org/index.php?c=12

    Links (including alternate links) to some of the more popular and useful
    antiparasite tools, including CWShredder, can also be found on the "My
    Favorite Freeware" page: http://aumha.org/freeware.htm

    If anyone has a need for four different ways to get to each of the previous
    pages, you may add www. to the front of any of them, and substitute
    winsupportcenter.com for aumha.org. Pick your favorite flavor <g>.

    Lucky, you flatter me enormously, and I'm happy you continue to find the
    site valuable and helpful. This summer will mark 5 years it's been going
    and, over time, one can accumulate a bunch of stuff. I've tried to make the
    site into the tool that *I* like to use. A bunch of other folks have said
    that this approach works just fine for them and they can find their way
    around.

    Don't worry about my bandwidth consumption. I haven't yet begun to hit the
    available bandwidth limits despite lots and lots of hits. Send all the flood
    of genuinely interested people that you want, either to the site itself -
    http://aumha.org/ - or to the forums at http://forum.aumha.org/ - or to
    both.

    And if this makes me a target for those attacks, too... well, I don't want
    to make life harder on the kind folks at pair.com, though they have the
    resources to fight almost any attack that can be levied. And I don't want to
    be mistaken for a supporter of a certain politician by shouting, "Bring'em
    on!" But... well, I really do have a ton of bandwidth and a webhost support
    team that knows how to fight (and has something like 6x bandwidth overage),
    so let's just say I have no anxiety about being turned into a target as a
    result of your circulating links to my site. We're handling the first 3
    million hits a month just fine, and we could double that without a bandwidth
    problem.

    On the other hand, it sucks like a Hoover that one of my fellow MVPs levied
    the attack that he did. Too bad I won't be seeing him in April so we can
    throw shots of vodka at each other from 10 paces (and then buy each other a
    few refills). I'm willing to accept this as his having a bad day and
    tripping over the Send button due to both feet being in his mouth (I've
    Bindar Dundat <s>). But I'm sorry you got bullied by it, Lucky.

    --
    Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
    AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
    Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
    Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
     
    Jim Eshelman, Feb 25, 2004
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  14. LuckyStrike

    PA Bear Guest

    You may rise, LS.
     
    PA Bear, Feb 25, 2004
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  15. LuckyStrike

    Jim Eshelman Guest

    You're welcome.

    And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something* rather
    than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are the only
    two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
    possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather change of
    the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.

    --
    Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
    AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
    Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
    Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
     
    Jim Eshelman, Feb 25, 2004
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  16. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    ----------------------------
    Jim,

    My fault; I started it by posting your link for CWShredder - which I
    fortuitously stumbled upon while cruising your site, as I do with a certain
    regularity - and then due to not really "spelling out well" a description of
    the URL link, started the commotion by being slammed by you know who.

    At any rate, the dust is settling; your understanding and support -in more
    ways than one- is appreciated, and I'm glad you will be able to withstand
    any possible onslaught of Bandwidth that this will consume, as well as being
    most able to effectively "duke it out with the bad guys". <S>

    Your site works great; *even I* can navigate my way though the huge amount
    of info you offer. Therefore, I'm wishing you 5 more (make that 10 if you
    can handle it. Hope so!) successful and great years doing what you do so
    well!
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
    #16
  17. LuckyStrike

    LuckyStrike Guest

    --------------------------
    Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.

    Best and *highest* regards,
    LuckyStrike
    -------------------------------
     
    LuckyStrike, Feb 25, 2004
    #17
  18. LuckyStrike

    PCR Guest

    After all this, even I might click one of your URLs again some day.

    --
    Thanks or Good Luck,
    There may be humor in this post, and,
    Naturally, you will not sue,
    should things get worse after this,
    PCR

    "LuckyStrike" <>
    wrote in message |
    | | > LuckyStrike wrote:
    | > > Jim,
    | > >
    | > > I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
    others
    | > > and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
    | > > the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
    | > > untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
    | > > apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least
    to
    | > > somehow (how?) make up for it.
    | >
    | > You're welcome.
    | >
    | > And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something*
    rather
    | > than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are
    the only
    | > two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
    | > possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather
    change
    | of
    | > the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
    | >
    | > --
    | > Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
    | > AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
    | > Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    | > Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
    | > Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
    | >
    | --------------------------
    | Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
    |
    | Best and *highest* regards,
    | LuckyStrike
    | -------------------------------
    |
    |
     
    PCR, Feb 26, 2004
    #18
  19. May I just point out that to the average person coming into this group..
    the fact that that post was...

    a. majorly cross posted
    b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike


    Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I wouldn't
    click on those links either.

    It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
    not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
     
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Feb 26, 2004
    #19
  20. LuckyStrike

    PCR Guest

    Perhaps some day in the distant future you may click one of his URLs,
    won't you?

    --
    Thanks or Good Luck,
    There may be humor in this post, and,
    Naturally, you will not sue,
    should things get worse after this,
    PCR

    "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <>
    wrote in message | May I just point out that to the average person coming into this
    group..
    | the fact that that post was...
    |
    | a. majorly cross posted
    | b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
    |
    |
    | Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I
    wouldn't
    | click on those links either.
    |
    | It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
    | not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
    |
    | LuckyStrike wrote:
    |
    | > | >
    | >>LuckyStrike wrote:
    | >>
    | >>>Jim,
    | >>>
    | >>>I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
    others
    | >>>and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
    | >>>the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
    | >>>untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
    | >>>apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least
    to
    | >>>somehow (how?) make up for it.
    | >>
    | >>You're welcome.
    | >>
    | >>And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something*
    rather
    | >>than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are
    the only
    | >>two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
    | >>possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather
    change
    | >
    | > of
    | >
    | >>the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
    | >>
    | >>--
    | >>Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
    | >>AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
    | >>Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
    | >>Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
    | >>Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
    | >>
    | >
    | > --------------------------
    | > Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
    | >
    | > Best and *highest* regards,
    | > LuckyStrike
    | > -------------------------------
    | >
    | >
    |
    | --
    | http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
    |
     
    PCR, Feb 26, 2004
    #20
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