Transfer XP to New Computer

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Steve, Mar 6, 2008.

  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    I have a new computer with an OEM version of Vista Home Basic.

    I have an old computer with an up to date retail version of XP including the
    registration/sn number. I DO NOT have the original XP disk.

    How do I transfer XP via CD/DVD to a second partition on my new computer?
     
    Steve, Mar 6, 2008
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  2. Without a Windows XP installation CD, you can't.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User

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    I have a new computer with an OEM version of Vista Home Basic.

    I have an old computer with an up to date retail version of XP including the
    registration/sn number. I DO NOT have the original XP disk.

    How do I transfer XP via CD/DVD to a second partition on my new computer?
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Mar 6, 2008
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  3. Actually, it is possible. I have done this many times, but it's not really
    worth it if you are just doing it once. You need Acronis TrueImage
    Workstation (not Home) and the Universal Restore addon.

    I have used this method to transfer OS installations to different hardware
    in emergencies, but I use it far more often to make existing OS
    installations into virtual machines, when consolidating hardware, or just
    wanting the old OS installation to refer to or extract from.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Mar 6, 2008
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  4. hello, I will give you a more flexible response than carey did...:) (as
    always)

    I will give you the BEST answer.

    you have 2.5 solutions: (you will understand why im saying two and a half
    solutions later)
    Only the first solution is supported normally, the others I give just in
    case you want to try them.

    Solution 1) Basically all you need is a CD of the same TYPE of your XP
    installation.
    What matters is the type of install for example if you have retail, if its
    home or pro, you need to find a retail cd of that same type..
    And then of course you have your product key.

    In other words you can install from ANY cd as long as if its the same TYPE
    of XP
    and you use your product key. If a friend has a cd with XP retail *same
    version home or pro* as you do, then you can use that, along with YOUR
    product key.
    If you dont have your old product key written down you can find it via the
    old installation via a small free program called magic jelly bean
    get it here http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml

    this will find the product key if you dont know it from your XP install..
    write it down and keep it somewhere in a safe place.

    you can also ORDER the Media from microsoft, with a minimal cost here:
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326246

    Solution 2) You can try GHOSTING the current install, writing the IMAGE on
    dvd, then gosting it back on the new drive.
    This method MAY OR MAY NOT WORK, but you really dont have anything to lose..
    since if it doesnt work you just format the drive again.. lol

    What will happen (if it works) is that XP will struggle to adjust itself to
    the new hardware trying to find the correct drivers in order for it to
    function.
    If it works the working windows may not be that stable...

    But I HAVE done this a few times with success and a few times it just gave
    me a blue screen.

    In order to make an IMAGE of the install you can use a nice product like
    ACRONIS TRUE IMAGE (thats what I use) but there are others too..

    basically what happens is that you use this ghosting software to create an
    identical COPY of the old install and you put it on a DVDs... then with that
    same
    ghosting software you restore the install on the new hard drive... then you
    boot widows and pray that it will work

    Solution 2.5) I named this 2.5 because I know MVP's will whine and ALEXB
    will come along saying that Im a crook lol.. but who cares about them
    really?
    My intention is to give you more flexibilty and options... and from then on
    YOU decide whats best.

    You CAN FIND the xp ISO IMAGES on TORRENT intact (not cracked) if you know
    how to search, so you can download the ISO of the XP that corresponds to
    your version, burn it into a CD and user YOUR PRODUCT KEY to activate. So
    you are just getting the installation media from torrent and you are using
    your product key to actiave.
    WARNING (and this is why I call it solution 2.5) if you DONT know what you
    are doing you MAY fall into some cracked version of XP or even worse some
    that has a virus in it...

    so be warned ...

    Im only offering this last solution just in case you are very good with
    search in on torrents and you can understand what is good or not there.

    Tell me if any of this helps
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  5. Yes, I just posted that solution too..
    I have done it also many times... but I explain also the setbacks it may
    have...

    I dont know why these MVPs are so inflexible...

    As a computer geek I have done things that others thought impossible...
    I expecially find it pleasing to prove MVPs wrong each time they say
    "its not possible"

    Im my opinion ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

    but I guess either he doesnt know this method, or he doesnt want to offer it
    because
    its "not supported by microsoft"
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  6. I can't see where you mentioned TrueImage Workstation with the Universal
    Restore addon. Your solution seems pretty messy. Does it even work, when
    just using a straight image? There is nothing to reset the Hardware
    Abstraction Layer or turn off the non-default drivers.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Mar 6, 2008
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  7. It works without the universal restore add-on some times (most of the times
    in fact)..
    but yes universal restore IS the way to go...
    but then he will NEED true image (acronis) while he may already have another
    GHOSTING
    app.
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  8. you dont need to "turn off non needed drivers", in XP each time its booted
    it checks what hardware is installed and then loads the drivers for it...

    they are just being ignored
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  9. Most times?? That really depends on whether his new machine is similar to
    his old one. If the new chipset needs a different HAL, it will all fall
    down, and then he'll have to make a Repair install and end up with an
    unstable OS installation with lots of shrapnel all over the place.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Mar 6, 2008
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  10. "If the new chipset needs a different HAL"

    You think I dont know this? Lol..

    Yes.. you are right.. but I had to give this alternative to the poster...

    he really has nothing to lose if he cant find a disk... it will just not
    work
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  11. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Thanks! Solution 1 occurred to me shortly after my initial posting and is
    obviously the simplest. As I am not a hermit I knocked on my neighbors'
    doors and soon found someone awake who was willing to lend me an original XP
    CD, same version as mine, without questioning my motives. Installation
    using my sn went without a hitch!

    I am amazed at the amount of high tech blather this question brought forth
    and am glad I don't have to pay for MVP advice.
     
    Steve, Mar 6, 2008
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  12. If you were to read my original reply, I stated you would need a Windows XP
    CD to accomplish your task. Since you apparently found a Windows XP CD, my
    initial reply was 100% dead accurate.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows - Shell/User
    Microsoft Community Newsgroups
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Mar 6, 2008
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  13. yeah... its accurate, but you should have taken the time to explain better
    what you mean
    so the user could find a better solution.

    Like I did.. lol
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  14. Steve

    Frank Guest

    OMG cc...give it up ok? You're becoming the king of googling...LOL!
    Frank
     
    Frank, Mar 6, 2008
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  15. Frank, there is something called the "universal mind" Google is becoming
    exactly that.
    The only limitation of Google is that you can find information of now and
    the past... and cannot find hidden information, or information about the
    future. (Now that's a nice idea for a story, a search engine that draws info
    from the future :) )

    The true universal mind, can access any information regardless of time and
    space since those are really an illusion of the true nature of the universe.

    Even though I did not use Google for basis of this specific response I did
    use Google to remind me of the direct links I had to give in the response.
    And I do use Google as an extension to my mind.
    There is nothing more fantastic for a curious mind like mine to have almost
    any information available in the click of a mouse.

    I call the interenet and google, the next evolutionary step of mankind, its
    so great a step that in next generations they should split the dates into BI
    and AI
    (before internet and after internet).
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 6, 2008
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  16. Steve

    SG Guest

    Read again what the OP said Bridge....

    Occurred to him shortly after his initial posting, meaning before your
    reply, so the OP already found a better solution. It just so happen he
    thought of it about an hour before you did. If giving you credit for the
    solution makes you fell better, so be it. No cause to degrade Carey for it
    and Carey did indeed give an accurate answer.


    --
    All the best,
    SG

    ALEX NICHOL
    (1935-2005)
    http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
    You will never be forgotten my friend
     
    SG, Mar 7, 2008
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  17. you forget that these posts get achieved in Google groups...
    whoever is searching for a solution might run into this post..

    Thank you for being negative for one more time.
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 7, 2008
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  18. Steve

    SG Guest

    If you feel the post was negative it sure wasn't my intent, but I have no
    control how you take it, it's up to you.

    --
    All the best,
    SG

    ALEX NICHOL
    (1935-2005)
    http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
    You will never be forgotten my friend
     
    SG, Mar 7, 2008
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  19. Steve

    Steve Guest

    And on . . . . and on . . . . and on . . . . and on . . . . etc., etc.

    I'm retired and have nothing better to do and hope you all are gainfully
    employed.

    But come on guys; get over it! I apologize for offending any and all and
    promise this will be my last word on the subject. . . . end . . . . .
    end . . . . end!


    .. . . end!
     
    Steve, Mar 7, 2008
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  20. Be cool!

    This is the nature of newsgroups.. threads can become quite long,
    and "regulars" often continue conversations that they had in other
    threads... lol
    This can occure in any thread.. so dont take it personally..
    You should see frank and alias go on and on for days.. LOL

    sure its a mess.. but its also very dynamic.
     
    On the Bridge!, Mar 8, 2008
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