Ubuntu 8.10 Install

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    My first foray into LINUX isn't going very well. Every attempt to get
    this one installed into a new VM fails. I get to the "Installing
    Restricted Drivers" and the screen turns brilliant green and then lapses
    into some sort of pixally divided screen with vertical green lines and
    text that is missing every other pixel. Below the green lines is
    something that resembles fractal paintings.The install continues, but I
    am unable to tell what is happening as the green lines cover any text.

    Towards the end of the 'things it is doing' I get:

    Loading, please wait
    [something]: Setting mode [640x430 ??] Failed
    screen ini: Failed
    Linux [something] 2.5.27-7-generic [something (dates, I think)]

    And, then, nothing. No more movement of the cursor after 30 minutes.

    Is this version of Linux able to be installed on a VM?

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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    Grand_Poobah Guest

    Thanks Mark for the speedy reply. While I was waiting to see if anyone
    would reply, I restarted the install, but added an option (using the
    "F4" menu) to use what they called 'safe video'. This time, The screen
    did do the same thing, but after about 3 minutes it cleared out and
    wallpaper appeared. Soon a window appeared that led me through the
    install procedure steps (name, how big a HD, that sort of stuff), and I
    am - so far - installing just fine.

    I guess the next thing is to install the VM Additions so I can go from
    window to window easily.

    GP

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    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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    Grand_Poobah Guest

    Also, one of the things I did do was edit the VMC file and make the
    video card have 16Mb vice 8Mb. Don't know for sure if that made a
    difference, but the progress bar is up to 56% system installed.

    You might want to get a copy of this one Mark if it installs all the
    way. Quite painless, after you get by the initial weirdness.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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  4. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    I agree Bob. The whole screen looks like somebody put down a latte and
    it overflowed on the screen. Good analogy with the bloodstain though.
    I think it actually is a fractal.

    This installation is just to see what all the hullaballoo is about with
    Linux. I doubt I will make any practical use of it. What the heck,
    VHD's are cheap (and disposable).

    GP

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    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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  5. Safe mode is useless, it doesn't change the color depth. Ubuntu
    installs in 24bit color, which VPC doesn't support. Safe mode doesn't
    change from 24bit color. Your best bet is to to a text install and
    then configure X after the installation.
    There are no Linux Addtions for VPC, only Virtual Server, and they
    need to be tweaked for use with Ubuntu.
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Nov 25, 2008
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  6. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    Thanks for the info Steve. I had heard about the 24-bit video, but it
    appears to be installing - and in color. The progress bar is up to 68%
    installed now. I do agree that the color scheme is pretty muddy-looking
    though.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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  7. Hmm, that's interesting. I'll have to give 8.10 a whirl in VPC. I
    just installed it in VMW WKS 6.5 to see if it's worth putting on some
    hardware.
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Nov 25, 2008
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  8. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    Update: Somewhere along the line, after I downloaded and installed some
    drivers, the screen went a bit "nuts" and then restored itself. I
    though it was installing an updated driver BUT when it restarted, the
    horizontal hold was completely skewed around so that the mouse pointer
    was a horizontal line. Now, I have no way to try and get the original
    resolution back. Is there a way to start it in command line mode and
    reset the video adapter to it's original resolution (864x480 I think it
    said - I would have though 640x480, but I'm sure it wasn't standard).

    Too tired to mess with it tonight though. I'll attack it tomorrow.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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  9. Grand_Poobah

    Bo Berglund Guest

    But as someone else pointed out, if you download and install VMWare
    Player then you can also download an already installed *and working*
    virtual machine for Ubuntu as what they call a "virtual appliance".
    VMWare actually has support for Linux Ubuntu including the equivalent
    of the Addotions (vmware tools in their parlance) which means you get
    mouse integration etc. No need to hassle with the install yourself...
     
    Bo Berglund, Nov 25, 2008
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  10. <CTRL><ALT><F1> from graphics mode to switch to text mode
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Nov 25, 2008
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  11. Grand_Poobah

    FACE Guest

    Try installing it under VirtualBox -- also free.

    But as to your skewed resolution under MS VPC, edit Xorg.conf
    as in "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" from your console prompt, and change
    the two occurrences of "24" to "16".

    From your skewed desktop, you should be able to drop to a text console
    with CNTL+ALT + (F1 or F2 or F3).

    FACE

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:30:48 -0500, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
     
    FACE, Nov 25, 2008
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  12. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

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    Excellent advice Bo. I will go that route instead. This installation
    took almost 4 hours, and it is still not operating right. My other post
    details what happened.

    This is just an exercise for me to see what it is capable of and an
    'appliance' is just the ticket.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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    Grand_Poobah Guest

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    Thanks very much for that Steve. I'll put it into use right away.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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  14. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    Another great tip. Thanks FACE.

    GP


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    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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  15. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    I've decided to take Bo's advice and move to VMWare. Playing around
    with this installation is more trouble than it is worth. Especially
    since once I got into text mode, the green bars were back and the text
    was unintelligible. The prompt was under the green bars so I don't know
    what is was prompting until it moved out from under the bars. Talk
    about blind leading the blind.

    GP

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    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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    FACE Guest

    On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:49:19 -0500, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
    Actually..........you can thank Bob Comer from this group (I believe it
    is). He told me. :)

    FACE
     
    FACE, Nov 25, 2008
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  17. Grand_Poobah

    FACE Guest

    Probably the best move. :)

    FACE

    On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:05:41 -0500, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
     
    FACE, Nov 25, 2008
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  18. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    My thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I downloaded and
    installed both VMWare Reader and the Ubuntu 8.10 pre-configured OS.
    Both work flawlessly and did so right out of the "box". Since I had no
    need to interact between host and guest I wasn't concerned that I
    couldn't "see" my own computer's shared directories and such. I could
    see the rest of the computers on the LAN as well as the Internet.

    This is a great place to get advice.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 25, 2008
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    Bo Berglund Guest

    And you now have the benefit of using USB devices in the Linux guest
    too...
    If you install the vmware tools (if they are not already installed)
    you will get mouse integration as well. I installed Ubuntu 8.10 about
    a week after release into my VMWare Workstation 6.5 (no hassle doing
    it from the Ubuntu CD, really). Then I was prompted to install the
    tools as well so I did that, but afterwards the mouse integration did
    not work. :-(
    Asked my daughter about it (she works on the VMWare team developing
    the stuff) and she said that they had noted it but it was an Ubuntu
    thing.
    After a few days and after my Ubuntu had made the regular updates I
    suddenly had mouse integration working! And that was *without* doing
    anything to the vmware tools. Just getting Ubuntu to update itself
    about 2 weeks after release of 8.10 fixed the problem. :)
     
    Bo Berglund, Nov 25, 2008
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  20. Grand_Poobah

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    --->
    Very cool, indeed. I was a bit leery of the menu item for connecting my
    external USB drive (on the host) because of the parenthetical phrase
    that was added stating("disconnect from host)" or something like that.
    When I clicked it, my host immediately complained that I had unplugged a
    USB device without notifying it.

    I have spent most of the day testing my web pages and decided that I
    didn't really need the VMWare on my laptop but, instead, would install
    it on my desktop when I got home. The uninstall did NOT go well.
    Halfway through the uninstall it stalled and then things got really bad.
    The drivers for the VMWare network that gets installed hung, the
    uninstaller quit working and eventually explorer.exe stopped responding.
    I eventually managed to recover from that by trying an uninstall in
    safe mode - surprise - VMWare wasn't in the list but all the icons and
    directories in Program Files were still there. It was loads of fun
    untangling VMWare from my system and getting it back into order. You
    wouldn't believe the amount of Event Log errors that popped up.

    Things are apparently back to normal now that I ended up cleaning up the
    Program Files directory for VMWare manually.

    GP
     
    Grand_Poobah, Nov 26, 2008
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