Ubuntu - Read the review - Ubuntu Sucks

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Homer Schwartz, Jun 19, 2007.

  1. Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
    who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
    won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
    Vista users for alternatives.

    Read this

    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp
     
    Homer Schwartz, Jun 19, 2007
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    Stephan Rose Guest

    I actually agree with all the guys points.

    1. Flash should be installed by default. I mean the one single mouse click
    to accept Firefox's suggestion to install it isn't the end of the world,
    but it shouldn't be necessary.

    2. I also agree that the automated driver install does need a little bit
    more work. It should automatically install the nVidia driver and it also
    needs to put a shortcut to the nVidia settings tool that allows a user to
    configure the desktop without the need to edit any config files. The
    nVidia driver install from nVidia's website actually does this, the
    restricted driver manager does not. I consider it a bug.

    3. DVDs are an issue in the sense that there is a legal problem with them.
    libdvdcss that allows for CSS decryption is a bit of a legal minefield.
    You can read more about it here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss

    4. The Migration tool detects XP fine, though I have no idea what it
    actually Migrates. I personally don't even care. Due to how new Vista is,
    expecting Feisty to support Vista migration is honestly a bit unrealistic.
    Even if Feisty was released a few months after Vista, the specs were set
    in stone already much earlier prior to Vista's release.

    Now the release in Gutsy on the other hand, coming up later this year, I
    *would* expect Vista migration to be available.

    Now all of that said, none of them are ground-breaking issues in my mind.
    Would take me about 10 minutes, if even that long, to resolve them and
    live happily ever after.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see issue #1 and #2 disappear from the list in
    the new upcoming release.

    If *that* is the worst that the person who wrote the review can come up
    with...that's not much.

    --
    Stephan
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    Stephan Rose, Jun 19, 2007
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    DanS Guest

    I didn't see anywhere where it said Ubuntu sucks.

    Problem 1, Firefox didn't install BY DEFAULT. 'Why should users have to
    install it themselves ?' - If you can't d/l and install it yourself, you
    have no business using a computer.

    2. He had problems with the video drivers.....(sound familiar).....they
    were installed, but he couldn't get resolution higher than 1024 x 768.

    No attempts were made to fix it.

    3. The DVD wouldn't play. No deal breaker there either.

    4. The Windows Migration tool didn't detect the Vista install, followed
    by......

    'I shed no tears about this as I rarely use Windows these days anyway'.

    So I guess Jim Lynch is a smart man afterall.
     
    DanS, Jun 19, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
    more like it."
    Ouch!
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jun 19, 2007
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    Bill Yanaire Guest

    You're right, I read somewhere that it will be called "Crappy Cow 7.8", but
    the results will be the same..... Same stench !
     
    Bill Yanaire, Jun 19, 2007
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    norm Guest

    Put on your nose plugs, quit complaining and walk away. ;)
     
    norm, Jun 20, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    All this review does is prove how lazy the writer is and how little he
    knows about Ubuntu and has no credible right to be writing a review.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jun 20, 2007
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  8. Homer Schwartz

    Alias Guest

    It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
    doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having to
    move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be up an
    running.

    I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is about
    as lame as you, Frankie boy.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jun 20, 2007
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    ray Guest

    Very easy to make that assessment for yourself. It costs absolutely
    nothing to try Ubuntu and you can even run it as a Live CD - loads and
    runs from the CD with no install and without touching the hard drive. Now
    - where do I find the vista Live CD??
     
    ray, Jun 20, 2007
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    Harry Krause Guest


    I didn't know anything about VISTA when I popped its install disc into
    my DVD/CD drive. It took care of business and as it was finishing up, it
    presented a couple of simple questions for me to answer. When it
    finished, EVERY piece of hardware I have was installed by the OS, except
    for my scanner, and a quick Q&A here took care of that, too.

    I find no compelling reason to switch to LINUX. Further, most of the
    LINUX priests who post are as obnoxious as you are, providing additional
    reasons not to switch over.

    Have a nice day.
     
    Harry Krause, Jun 20, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    I had the same experience with Ubuntu but I didn't have to pay $800 US
    dollars to have it.
    You were planning to install a Linux user? How would you go about doing
    that? Or are you just using the typical MS user tactic of going after
    the messenger in a lame attempt to discredit the message?
    Advantages of Linux over Windows:

    It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
    Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
    Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.

    No viruses

    No malware

    No need for an anti virus program

    No need for a software firewall

    No need for anti malware programs

    No activation

    No WGA, in all of its flavors

    No DRM.

    No need to buy new, expensive hardware.

    I am having a nice day.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jun 20, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    All lies!
    You're a known liar.
    No more lies!
    Linux loser.
    Get a life.
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jun 20, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    A lie.
    Another lie.
    Yeah, when will you stop?
    I haven't lost *anything*.
    I have one, thank you very much and I love living it.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jun 20, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jun 21, 2007
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    GO Guest

    Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
    enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.
     
    GO, Jun 21, 2007
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    ArameFarpado Guest

    Em Quarta, 20 de Junho de 2007 16:07, Alias escreveu:

    Adding:

    --Multi-language... we can have 100 diferent users in the same system, each
    one with using a diferent language... with windows they're stick to just
    one except if they bye a special windows MUI and even with that, they are
    stick to less then 20 languages.

    --Easyer to use after everything configured, and only needs to configure
    once.

    --Doesn't lie to the user and never treat the user like a dog... while
    windows says that a unix floppy is not formated, a lie, it is formated and
    have information in there, stupid windows just can not read it. Windows
    crash by inself and after that it ass-rapes the user saying that he didn't
    shutdown the pc as he should.

    --No frangmentation of disks.

    --Kids can use it, kids with 2-3 years old... while in windows... kaput,
    reinstall or pray that the system restore work once more. I know this by
    years of experience... in my windows days, i was allways afraid to let kids
    of this age play with the computer... now, with linux, no problem...
    and they have lots and lots of games to play.

    --Permission system really works, while in windows is a joke... how come
    that parental control doesn't work when using firefox? who does the control
    anyway? vista or the browser ? so vista's parental control only works if
    the browser is compatible... the same way that permissions only block virus
    if those virus are made to be compatible with the system.

    --Doesn't have to have the same look&fell

    --Brings free programs to do everything that a computer can do, we only
    install extra progs if we want to.

    --Pushes the user to learn about computers, while windows push then to be
    ignorant.

    --When it does not support (by is own) some hardware it allways inform the
    user about what hardware it is, while windows usualy says it is a "vga
    graphics adapter" when it is a "SIS chip", or "microsoft sound system" when
    in fact it is a "yamaha opl chip". When configuring harware, it makes a lot
    of diference.


    and so on and on... i've been using linux for 4 years now, before that i
    used windows, and still do at work... i know both systems a i could be
    writing things like this for a week.

    Regards
     
    ArameFarpado, Jun 21, 2007
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    GO Guest

    Good job! Way to prove how any of the statements are false.
     
    GO, Jun 21, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
    need for a software firewall".
    Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
    you feel safe...well do you punk?
    Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
    firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
    software firewall?
    Hummm...good question huh?
    Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die
    for it.
    You'a think?
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jun 21, 2007
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    ArameFarpado Guest

    Em Quinta, 21 de Junho de 2007 03:08, Frank escreveu:
    linux firewall is inserted in the kernel (the core of the OS), there is no
    need to install a program to do the firewalling...
    this way is safer, a standalone software firewall may crash and stop working
    leaving the system unsafe, while if the core crash, everything stops
    working, no machine responding to attacks anymore.

    those programs you might have saw like firestarter, guarddog, etc... are not
    the firewall, they are just script generators to set firewall preferencies,
    those programs are opened to set something in the firewall and then closed
    after setting... they are not the firewall, and they do not need to be
    running full time like the firewalls for windows.

    got it, huh?

    well said... i've seen you dying a lot around here.

    regards
     
    ArameFarpado, Jun 21, 2007
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    norm Guest

    Why does vista come with an outbound firewall that by default needs to
    first be configured before it is of any use. The iptables firewall is
    included, if I read correctly, in all iterations of linux, and it too
    has to be configured before it is of any use. If one wants to use
    either, one must be prepared to configure first. So in reality, both
    vista and linux include a firewall, but neither are internet ready in
    all (in the case of vista) or any (in the case of ubuntu) in their
    installed state.
     
    norm, Jun 21, 2007
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