Unbuntu is a piece of crap!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Frank, May 9, 2007.

  1. Frank

    Frank Guest

    I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
    can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
    What a piece of crap!
    Frank
     
    Frank, May 9, 2007
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    Sasha Guest

    Join the club, I upgrade my computer to high-end everything except the 3 year
    old 3400+ AMD64 processor.

    I go to install Fedora Linux and it tells me that the graphics card is not
    supported. I go on to ATI's website and it doesn't have drivers for my
    graphics card in Linux 32 or 64 bit form. Oh, my graphics card is ATI's
    current top of the line X1950 Pro.
     
    Sasha, May 9, 2007
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    Frank Bright Guest

    (FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)

    All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
    so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.

    At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
    never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then as
    I poked
    around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.

    I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
    have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the Linux
    stuff as there
    is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
    wireless
    didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
    poking around.

    Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect (and
    maybe
    the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control. And
    while
    there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux disciples
    to go around
    peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
    Free!"

    It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just go
    into the Bios
    and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.

    Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu and
    I have
    2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
    partition, and I will say
    the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I was
    telling Ubuntu which
    partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished the
    install.

    As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy, but we
    look at our screens
    a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
    graphic interface.

    I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better looking
    desktop graphics.
    It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.

    Thanks, Frank Bright
     
    Frank Bright, May 9, 2007
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    Sasha Guest

    You could run it under Vista inside Virtual PC 2007, being that its free.
     
    Sasha, May 9, 2007
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  5. Frank

    ray Guest

    That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
    crap.
     
    ray, May 9, 2007
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  6. Frank

    Frank Guest

    Well at least you got it to install (well sort of). I tried but I didn't
    get anywhere with it.
    Frank (the other one)
     
    Frank, May 9, 2007
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  7. Frank

    Frank Guest

    So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
    Frank
     
    Frank, May 9, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    Yet you comment on it like you did.

    Alias
     
    Alias, May 9, 2007
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  9. Frank

    Alias Guest

    Vista has problems with video cards too. How come you're not calling
    Vista a piece of crap? Maybe, like Justin, you need an eight year old to
    help you install Ubuntu.

    Alias
     
    Alias, May 9, 2007
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  10. Frank

    Alias Guest

    Why would he use a piece of crap? Try an ATI card.

    Alias
     
    Alias, May 9, 2007
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  11. If you add the cost of the Vista anytime upgrade to run Virtual PC
    2007 to run the free Ubuntu... is that really free? You just end up
    paying more to MS and you still have no guarantee that Ubuntu will
    work on your virtual pc.

    Al
     
    Alfred Kaufmann, May 9, 2007
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  12. Frank

    ray Guest

    There are approximately 369 other Linux distributions available. Any
    decent video card will work with the vesa driver for starters. You can
    fiddle later.
     
    ray, May 9, 2007
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  13. Good post. While I really like Ubuntu, I'm also a geek. I like to play
    around with it. For a real Linux challenge, try Gentoo. You can customize it
    to exactly how you want it, but you need to know what you are doing. Linux
    can look awesome, but you have to do your homework and be somewhat of a
    geek.

    Vista has a much smaller learning curve.

    I love Vista, but I don't hate the other operating systems. Linux has it's
    place, but I don't see it replacing Windows on the desktop any time soon. If
    you think Vista has compatibility problems, try using a custom driver
    developed from some guy in Germany that only offers the source code that
    needs compiled with no support or docs on how to do it... That happens
    frequently in Linux...

    --
    Dustin Harper

    http://www.vistarip.com

    --
     
    Dustin Harper, May 9, 2007
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  14. A failed install process is enough to make people shy away from a product
    that YOU recommend so entheusiastically.

    --


    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
     
    Richard Urban, May 9, 2007
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  15. Frank

    Roy Coorne Guest

    You need a new pair of glasses - you can't even recognize the sequence
    of letters "u b u n t u";-)
    Maybe you wish to upgrade to a Millennium G550 or G400;-)

    r O y
     
    Roy Coorne, May 9, 2007
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    Alias Guest

    When you say you tried to install it, I don't believe you. I think
    you're just blowing hot air.

    Alias
     
    Alias, May 9, 2007
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  17. Frank

    Frank Guest

    You can't possibly be as dumb as you sound. Or can you?
    Frank
     
    Frank, May 9, 2007
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  18. Frank

    Frank Guest

    Calling Matrox P750 video card..."a piece of crap" does nothing in
    helping to install unbuntu. You only show your ignorance and intolerance
    for anything you either don't know about or have not used.
    In fact this kind of response is identical in tone to those Vista
    responses that the linux crowd have been railings against in this ng.
    You and linux are no better than they are.
    Frank
     
    Frank, May 9, 2007
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  19. Frank

    Alias Guest

    What's "dumb" is you thinking that an ad hominem is the proper way to
    debate the issues.

    Alias
     
    Alias, May 9, 2007
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    Kurt Herman Guest

    Why would you have to upgrade Vista? Virtual PC 2007 installs and runs fine
    in Basic and Premium.
    Its just not "supported", but it runs just the same.

    Kurt
     
    Kurt Herman, May 9, 2007
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