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Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by des27, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. OK...
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Nov 17, 2008
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  2. des27

    des27 Guest

    If I switch to Vista will the problem with Update gets corrected or will it
    be the same?
     
    des27, Nov 19, 2008
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  3. Does the Windows Update issue persist? I was under the impression that you
    fixed it by getting rid of Windows Search.

    If by "switch to Vista" you mean upgrade to Vista, I wouldn't recommend
    doing so with the machine in its current state. If you do a format & clean
    install of WinXP first, OK...but then that should resolve the problem
    anyway.
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Nov 19, 2008
    #23
  4. des27

    des27 Guest

    It still persists. What getting rid of windows search fixed, was IE 7 taking
    forever to load.
     
    des27, Nov 19, 2008
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  5. des27

    des27 Guest

    I just finish a clean install of XP and 100 windows updates were installed.
    Didn't install SP 3 or IE 7.
    Which do I install first?
    Thanks
     
    des27, Nov 20, 2008
    #25
  6. des27

    TaurArian Guest

    SP3.

    Why - see:
    IE and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

    FYI -
    Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929

    The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311

    Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

    Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality after you
    install Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309

    How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

    Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en

    Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals
    and Developers (Single installations for PCs can use the same file)
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en


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    TaurArian, Nov 20, 2008
    #26
  7. I would strongly recommend installing WinXP SP3 first. See
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

    Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:

    Sandi's Installation Tips <= Steps #1-8, #10 & #11; take note of #12, then
    STOP!
    http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install
    (ignore any references to Vista)

    And I strongly recommend using
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/getitnow.mspx as the
    installation source, not Automatic/Windows Update.

    Alternately, use this Direct Download link:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9ae91ebe-3385-447c-8a30-081805b2f90b

    Tip: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it.

    Make *certain* that you check in at Windows Update immediately after
    installing IE7 and install any critical updates offered. If Optional
    Updates category offers Root Certificates update, I recommend installing it
    to take full advantage of IE7's additional security.

    IEBlog : IE7 Installation and Anti-Malware Applications
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/11/IE7-Installation-and-Anti_2D00_Malware-Applications.aspx

    What's New in Internet Explorer 7
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms649487.aspx

    Release Notes
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/aa740486.aspx
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
    AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
    DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
    <SNIP>
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Nov 20, 2008
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  8. des27

    des27 Guest

    I did a clean install and followed your instructions and everything is
    working perfect. I guess I should forget about IE 7, so I don't get into
    anymore trouble.
    For my other computer is there a way to remove IE 7?
    Thanks for everything.
     
    des27, Nov 20, 2008
    #28
  9. I would strongly recommend installing IE7: Its enhanced security has no
    comparison in IE6.
    Please begin a new thread about the other computer & removing IE7 in IE
    General newsgroup:
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Nov 20, 2008
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  10. sandkqsghbgchn,b



    des2 wrote:

    I am able to reach Microsoft Update and when I scan for updates none are
    16-Nov-08

    I am able to reach Microsoft Update and when I scan for updates none are
    offered
    XP Pro V. 2002 Service Pack 3, v 565
    IE7 v. 70.5730. 1
    CD was used
    No Norton or McAfee software is or was installed
    The following updates are installed by me(manually)directly from the site on
    11/08
    KB 95295
    KB 95421
    KB 95315
    KB 95925

    :

    Previous Posts In This Thread:

    Update
    My hard disk crashed and had to reinstall XP Pro. Since then Windows update
    has not had any updates for the month of Oct. & Nov. When I run update it
    finds nothing. I installed the new Windows update software and still nothing.
    My other machine has had mmany updates since then. Any suggestions?

    Hello des27,Test this WGA diagnose test, connection to MS, that scripts
    Hello des27

    Test this WGA diagnose test, connection to MS, that scripts working.
    http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/diag/

    Reboot
    -=-

    Go ahead and download Dial-??-Fix.
    <http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix>
    Scroll down about 2/3 of the way to Download Dial-??-fix
    Click the Double green checkmark and click Go.

    Reboot

    Try the
    <http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/>
    and D/L your updates
    -=-

    For the benefit of the community reading this post, please rate the p??st.

    I hope this post is helpful.

    Let us know how it works ??ut.

    ????????l
    -=-


    :

    Re: Update
    Try the Automatic Updates and WindowsUpdate Reset too
    http://www.codeplex.com/aurese

    o

    How to troubleshoot common Windows Update, Microsoft Update, and Windows
    Server Update Services installation issue
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/90660

    o

    Check the Update log in Windows:

    Click Start, and then click Run
    In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.lo
    and then click OK

    Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate the error
    code(s) associated with the latest failed attempt to download/install. If
    appropriate copy and paste the error codes into this thread so someone may
    be able to assist you. On the other hand, you may be able to find the error
    code and other suggestions by searching the Newsgroup

    Also check Windows folder for file called KB******.log (****** = number of
    update ie KB896688) and post the contents of the failed update
    This may provide further clues as to why the update failed

    How to read the Windowsupdate.log file
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/90209

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    http://taurarian.mvps.or
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    RE: Update

    Neither of the responses worked. WGA was OK - Dial-a-fix stopped when it was
    checking criptographic?? The same with (aureset) I will now look for the log
    and see if I can post the log error. Log error (0X80029C4A) many times. Hope
    this works
    Thanks

    0X80029C4A TYPE_E_CANTLOADLIBRARYError loading type library/DLL.
    0X80029C4A TYPE_E_CANTLOADLIBRAR
    Error loading type library/DLL

    This was a *clean* installation or a Repair Install of XP
    Is there an antivirus/security suite installed and, if so, what is it

    First step, open the Services console and check to see if Cryptographic
    Services is Disabled on startup
    [Start > Run > type in services.msc , click OK
    Double left click Cryptographic Services to see if it's Disabled next to
    Startup type. Set the startup type to Automatic if it had been Disabled
    If it's not Disabled, read on ...

    Boot to Safe Mode:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222

    Show hidden files, folders, and system files:
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html#winxp

    Open a Command Prompt [Start > Run > type in cmd, click OK]
    At the prompt type in or copy&paste the following after the prompt and
    then press Enter

    ren %systemroot%\System32\Catroot2 oldcatroot2
    exit

    Using Windows Explorer, navigate to the following subfolder:
    WINDOWS\ystem32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}

    Once in the {F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE} subfolder, look for
    all files that *start* with tmp. IF any exist, move them to the Recycle
    Bin for now.

    *** DO NOT move any files to the Recycle Bin that do NOT start with
    tmp ***

    Restart the system and then do Method 4: Reregister DLL files that are
    associated with Cryptographic Services, here-
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/

    Restart the system and see if it can update now.


    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============



    des27 wrote:

    1 It was a clean installation.
    1 It was a clean installation.
    2 The Criptographics was running in automatic
    3 I rename the catroot32 to old catroot32
    4 There were no temp files on{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}
    5 All reg were successful
    Still no updates after reboot.
    I got error 0x800B0001
    Checked it out and registered all the new .dll except one
    wuweb.dll,atl.dll did not work.
    Still no updates.
    What next?
    Thanks

    :

    Re: Update
    Repost:

    Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
    Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you perform a new Windows XP
    installation or you repair a Windows XP installation
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
    --
    ~PA Bear

    des27 wrote:

    I have done all the steps suggested and still cannot get any updates.
    I have done all the steps suggested and still cannot get any updates. Should
    I reformat the hard drive and do a clean install?

    :

    What's the point, you've already done a clean install and you can't update.
    What's the point, you've already done a clean install and you can't update.
    Will that change if you do it again?

    FYI -

    Error code when you try to use Windows Update or Microsoft Update to install
    updates: "0x800B0001"
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958045

    See also:

    You cannot install some updates or programs
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/

    When searching for available updates on the Update site, you receive the
    0x800B0001 error.
    http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/showarticle.aspx?articleid=34&ln=en&IsMu=False



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    http://taurarian.mvps.org
    ======================================
    How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
    Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties or
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    Computer Maintenance: Acronis / Diskeeper / Paragon / Raxco



    What TaurArian said.
    What TaurArian said.

    Repost:

    Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet
    (you have the equivalent of a "new computer" after a Repair Install and a
    Clean Install)
    http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html

    des27 wrote:

    This was a clean installation.
    This was a clean installation.
    Firewall (Wireless router WPA2) and Zone Alarm Security Suite 8.0.059
    AVG Antivirus 8.0.199
    The way I discovered that it was not wworking was because when I got the
    computer back it downloaded Office 2007 Security stuff. I don't have Office
    2007, but 2003. Then when I update my other computer (desktop), the laptop
    would not find any updates for October and November.

    :

    If you have Office 2007 Compatibility Pack (SP1) installed, that's why you
    If you have Office 2007 Compatibility Pack (SP1) installed, that's why you
    were offered the "Office 2007 Security stuff."


    1a. If you've purchased ZASS, uninstall AVG 8 via Add/Remove Programs and
    reboot.

    1b. If you've not purchased ZASS, uninstall ZASS via Add/Remove Programs and
    reboot.

    2. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled. If you enable it,
    reboot, and then find it's disabled again, tell us.

    3a. Test by going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com,

    3b. Does the link in #3a above take you to Windows Update or Microsoft
    Update?
    --
    ~PA Bear

    des27 wrote:

    I uninstalled AVG 8 - rebooted - Automatic Updates was enabled(already) -
    I uninstalled AVG 8 - rebooted - Automatic Updates was enabled(already) -
    rebooted and tried to update - No updates
    Went to http://windowsupdate.microsoft and was directed to
    http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate.v6/default.aspx?ln=en-u

    :

    1. What does "no updates" mean?
    1. What does "no updates" mean? Were you able to reach Microsoft Update and
    scan for updates but no updates were offered

    2. Right-click on My Computer and select Properties: What Windows version is
    displayed on the General tab

    3. Are you running IE6 or IE7

    4. Open Add/Remove Programs | Make sure the Show Updates option (top right)
    is checked | Scroll down: Are there any "Security Update for Windows XP
    (KB999999)" listed? If so, what's the KB numbers associated with the five
    (5) most-recently installed of these updates

    5a. What media (e.g., CDs) did you use to do the clean install of WinXP Pro
    and where did you obtain it

    5b. If you used the CDs that came with your machine or used the hidden
    Recovery partition to reinstall Windows, did the reinstall include a
    free-trial version of any Norton or McAfee software? If so, is this
    software still installed
    --
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    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 200
    AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.ne
    DTS-L http://dts-l.net

    des27 wrote:

    I am able to reach Microsoft Update and when I scan for updates none are
    I am able to reach Microsoft Update and when I scan for updates none are
    offered
    XP Pro V. 2002 Service Pack 3, v 565
    IE7 v. 70.5730. 1
    CD was used
    No Norton or McAfee software is or was installed
    The following updates are installed by me(manually)directly from the site on
    11/08
    KB 95295
    KB 95421
    KB 95315
    KB 95925

    :

    Did the CD you used come with that specific machine?
    Did the CD you used come with that specific machine

    Did you install WinXP SP3 and IE7 manually, too, or were one or both
    installed via Windows Update (website) or Automatic Updates

    When did you installed WinXP SP3, was ZASS and/or AVG AV running in the
    background

    Please confirm that you've tried both Method #1 and Method #2 in
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
    --
    ~PA Bea

    des27 wrote:

    I guess you must sleep by the computer.
    I guess you must sleep by the computer
    The media was the CD that came with the computer
    The SP3 and IE 7 were installed from the web (automatic updates
    Zass & AVG were not installed them. They were installed afterwards
    I have tried bothe Method #1 & #
    I guess I will try to install all the updates from the site you mentioned
    943144, of course I will have to go by dates 11/11/0


    :

    Was no anti-virus application at all installed when you installed SP3 and IE7?
    Was no anti-virus application at all installed when you installed SP3 an
    IE7

    Which was installed first, SP3 or IE7

    When did you install SP3 (approximate date)

    des27 wrote:

    Re: Update
    PS: Your IE7 issue is directly related to the cause of your Windows Updates
    issues, des27

    cf.
    http://groups.google.com/group/micr...neral/browse_frm/thread/6b6e948d16e2e8aa?hl=e
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 200
    AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.ne
    DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

    The IE 7 first, the SP3The date was 9/6/08.
    The IE 7 first, the SP
    The date was 9/6/08
    The issue with IE 7 was caused by Windows Search 4. When uninstalled it th
    issue was resolved

    :

    Re: Update
    OK..

    des27 wrote:

    If I switch to Vista will the problem with Update gets corrected or will it be
    If I switch to Vista will the problem with Update gets corrected or will it
    be the same?

    :

    Does the Windows Update issue persist?
    Does the Windows Update issue persist? I was under the impression that you
    fixed it by getting rid of Windows Search.

    If by "switch to Vista" you mean upgrade to Vista, I wouldn't recommend
    doing so with the machine in its current state. If you do a format & clean
    install of WinXP first, OK...but then that should resolve the problem
    anyway.

    des27 wrote:

    It still persists.
    It still persists. What getting rid of windows search fixed, was IE 7 taking
    forever to load.

    :

    I just finish a clean install of XP and 100 windows updates were installed.
    I just finish a clean install of XP and 100 windows updates were installed.
    Didn't install SP 3 or IE 7.
    Which do I install first?
    Thanks

    :

    Re: Update
    SP3.

    Why - see:
    IE and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

    FYI -
    Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929

    The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311

    Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

    Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality after you
    install Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309

    How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

    Windows XP Service Pack 3 - ISO-9660 CD Image File:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CE-B5FB-4488-8C50-FE22559D164E&displaylang=en

    Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals
    and Developers (Single installations for PCs can use the same file)
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en


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    http://taurarian.mvps.org
    ======================================
    How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
    Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties or
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    Re: Update
    I would strongly recommend installing WinXP SP3 first. See
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3.aspx

    Required reading IMHO before installing IE7:

    Sandi's Installation Tips <= Steps #1-8, #10 & #11; take note of #12, then
    STOP!
    http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install
    (ignore any references to Vista)

    And I strongly recommend using
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/getitnow.mspx as the
    installation source, not Automatic/Windows Update.

    Alternately, use this Direct Download link:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9ae91ebe-3385-447c-8a30-081805b2f90b

    Tip: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it.

    Make *certain* that you check in at Windows Update immediately after
    installing IE7 and install any critical updates offered. If Optional
    Updates category offers Root Certificates update, I recommend installing it
    to take full advantage of IE7's additional security.

    IEBlog : IE7 Installation and Anti-Malware Applications
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/11/IE7-Installation-and-Anti_2D00_Malware-Applications.aspx

    What's New in Internet Explorer 7
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms649487.aspx

    Release Notes
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/aa740486.aspx
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
    AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
    DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

    des27 wrote:
    <SNIP>

    I did a clean install and followed your instructions and everything is working
    I did a clean install and followed your instructions and everything is
    working perfect. I guess I should forget about IE 7, so I don't get into
    anymore trouble.
    For my other computer is there a way to remove IE 7?
    Thanks for everything.

    :

    Re: Update
    I would strongly recommend installing IE7: Its enhanced security has no
    comparison in IE6.


    Please begin a new thread about the other computer & removing IE7 in IE
    General newsgroup:
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
    --
    ~PA Bear

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  11. des27

    Peter Foldes Guest

    A deadhead from egghead
     
    Peter Foldes, Apr 8, 2010
    #31
  12. des27

    MowGreen Guest

    On Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:41 PM


    This thread started on the above date. If you are experiencing issues
    updating your system, please read this and then start a *** new ***
    thead. Someone *may* assist you then.
    Thanks.

    How to ask a question
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



    MowGreen
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    MowGreen, Apr 8, 2010
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