Upgrade Disabled Due To Compliance Can't Be Run

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by SB, Jul 28, 2006.

  1. SB

    SB Guest

    I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP.
    The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003
    - 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the
    Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 -
    2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance
    Check cannot be run.
    Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!
     
    SB, Jul 28, 2006
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  2. Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based
    newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys
    you, try Windows Mail.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 28, 2006
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  3. SB

    SB Guest

    Because Every Time I Post It Says Error Posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    SB, Jul 28, 2006
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  4. SB

    SB Guest

    Because I hate newsgroups and was hoping that someone from Microsoft would
    respond!
     
    SB, Jul 28, 2006
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  5. It's a known bug. It's been around a while.

     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 28, 2006
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  6. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  7. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP
    newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community"
    morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  8. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    Colin --

    At what point wil it occur to you that the community morons paid to look
    after the web interface for these groups are too stupid and lazy to fix the
    duplicate post bug and fundamental elements in that news group including
    limited slow downloads of messages from the server and a panoply of other
    features? I mean it's been going on intermittently for months over the
    years.

    How un-Ray Ozziesque--what do the idiots do for their paycheck?

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  9. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    What's stopping you from using the Vista one click for communities in Win
    Mail? Start>Win Mail or Win key+ run>msimn in run box>click MSFT Help
    Groups on the left and badda bing you aren't using the shit web interface
    anymore to be classy about it.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  10. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    It's been around for a while because the mornons that run community are four
    plus stupid. How long does it take for them to see the multiple posts, and
    then call IT or whatever the hell fixes things at Redmond for them for help?
    Surely they have a developer at Redmond--or perhaps they could use one of
    the dozens of outside coders MSFT has hired to debug Vista at 3-4 grand per
    day.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  11. It doesn't matter what occurs to me. I can't fix it. All I can do is
    advise people that they are not doing something wrong and learn to work
    around it.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 29, 2006
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  12. The first part of your comment is the problem. They aren't.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 29, 2006
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  13. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed
    immediately.

    You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their
    innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it
    takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be?
    My take and I value yours is:

    1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order
    for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface
    exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to
    help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use
    the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I
    often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a
    google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty
    group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was
    out of our regular scope.

    2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single
    click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help
    Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of
    interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and
    certainly not as uniform as they could be.

    3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent
    invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars
    who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in
    Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA
    Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have
    gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP
    newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some
    improvements with Win Mail.

    I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the
    newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting
    the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however,
    because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms
    length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as
    they consume our products so we can get our toys."

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  14. MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 29, 2006
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  15. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    "MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether." Pretty brief Colin.
    And just leave the terribly crappy web interface? Neither of them cost
    them much in the way of server space on their farm or resources personnel
    wise. They seem to be involved to the point of almost never. Take a look at
    that thing. And why would they like to drop the NNTP technology all
    together--and if they did others would step in--there are scores of
    alternative readers, and many of them if not all, may be much better.

    What's the logic in their thinking? Where's your source for this--personal
    communication or somewhere on web because if it's a place I can read I'd
    like to see it.

    If they did, I'd just use one of the many 3rd parties for using groups.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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  16. There were some discussions with MS folks in the TechBeta last year and the
    maintenance of NNTP technology is a big issue at MS. It is a very old
    technology and MS would like something much newer. I don't think any
    roadmap is resolved but MS is clearly unhappy supporting NNTP.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 29, 2006
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  17. SB

    Chad Harris Guest

    If newer is better than why not? I could never understand why the makers
    of IE wouldn't pull someone fromDean Hachamovitch's IE team to quickly
    cleanup and improve the web interface. This may become a little academic if
    the feature of Win Mail to access groups gets enough publicity.

    The groups are tremendously underused as an educational tool. I can't tell
    you how many people I ask if they've taken a problem to the groups who don't
    understand what you're referencing. I know MSFT mentions them on different
    pages, with links to the web interface, but it seems to get ignored.

    I wish they'd let people know they can reach them via a single click in Win
    Mail now.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jul 29, 2006
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