Very Frustrated with SBS 2003 ... HELP Please

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Michael G, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. Michael G

    Michael G Guest

    I am trying to bring up a server with SBS 2003. I do NOT want to use it as a
    DC, just a server to run Veritas BE backing up 3 other servers. It doesn't
    seem to want to function unless it is the DC and it is now just shutting down
    on a license violation.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
    Michael G, Feb 7, 2005
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  2. Michael G

    Matt Gibson Guest

    You can't...period.

    You need Windows 2003 Standard for that.

    SBS MUST be the DC at the root of the domain (And other restrictions).

    Matt Gibson - GSEC
     
    Matt Gibson, Feb 7, 2005
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  3. Michael G

    Michael G Guest

    Thanks, I was beginning to think that might be the case. I have a copy of
    2000 Server available, any reason I shouldn't use that instead?
     
    Michael G, Feb 7, 2005
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  4. You'd be better off installing SBS and familiarising yourself with both its
    power and its limitations.
     
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Feb 7, 2005
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  5. Michael G

    Matt Gibson Guest

    Nope! 2000 server would be fine.

    I agree with SuperGumby though. You might want to play around with SBS.
    Quite a powerful product.

    Matt Gibson - GSEC
     
    Matt Gibson, Feb 7, 2005
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  6. Michael G

    Per W. Guest

    Is it possible to have a SBS2003 in its own domain and still using remote
    backup for Veritas Backup Exec?

    /Per W.
     
    Per W., Feb 7, 2005
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  7. Michael G

    Michael G Guest

    I agree it is powerful but we already have a domain controller in place. The
    suggestion I got from elsewhere was to let it have its own domain and
    establish a trust between it and the main domain.
     
    Michael G, Feb 7, 2005
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  8. trusts are not supported by SBS.

    -------------here starts something pilfered from the ms.p.w.s.migration
    newsgroup---------
    To install a SBS 2003 computer in an existing Active Directory domain,
    please follow these steps:

    1. On a Windows 2000 domain, you must prepare Active Directory before you
    install the SBS 2003 computer in the domain.

    Cannot Promote a Windows Server 2003 Domain Controller into a Windows 2000
    Forest

    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=278875

    2. Start the installation of SBS 2003 by inserting CD 1 into the CD or DVD
    drive.

    3. When the operating system is installed and the computer restarts and
    continues with the integrated Setup program, click "Cancel" to stop the
    integrated Setup program. Note You must cancel the integrated Setup program
    at this point. If you continue with the integrated Setup, you cannot join
    the SBS 2003 computer to the existing domain.

    4. On the SBS 2003 computer, configure a static IP address on the network
    card and make sure to configure DNS to include the existing server that
    hosts the Active Directory zone. Note You can ping other computers on the
    network by using their Fully Qualified Domain Names (FQDNs) after you
    complete this procedure.

    5. Run the Dcpromo.exe program on the SBS 2003 computer to join the existing
    domain.

    6. Install the DNS server service.

    For additional information about how to configure a DNS server, visit the
    following Microsoft Web site:

    http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...3/standard/proddocs/en-us/dns_server_role.asp

    7. Promote the SBS 2003 computer to a global catalog server.

    8. After the new computer is successfully promoted to a global catalog
    server, remove any other global catalog servers in the domain.

    9. Transfer the FSMO roles to the SBS 2003 computer.

    10. Move the site licensing server to the SBS 2003 computer.

    11. Wait for the new Active Directory objects to replicate to the SBS

    2003 computer. The time this takes depends on the Active Directory size and
    on network performance. You can view the Directory Service event log to
    verify that replication has completed successfully. The SBS 2003 integrated
    Setup program may not continue if replication has not completed or if
    replication has failed.

    12. Change the DNS settings on all domain controllers to point to the new
    SBS 2003 computer as the primary DNS server.

    13. On the SBS 2003 computer, insert the SBS 2003 CD 1 into the CD or DVD
    drive and continue with the integrated Setup of SBS 2003 and its components.

    Wish it helps!

    Regards,

    Bob Qin

    Microsoft Online Partner Support
     
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Feb 7, 2005
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  9. Michael G

    Matt Gibson Guest

    SBS can't do trusts.

    Matt Gibson - GSEC

     
    Matt Gibson, Feb 7, 2005
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  10. Michael G

    Michael G Guest

    So, it sound to me as if SBS won't work in my environment. I can not change
    my primary DC, nor do I want to. I merely want a "server" to run backups of
    other systems. Yes, I probably should not have gone with this solution but
    now that I am there it appears that 200 Server is where I have to go.
     
    Michael G, Feb 7, 2005
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  11. Michael G

    Matt Gibson Guest

    Agreed. If you do not/can not wish to change your primary server, then SBS
    won't work for you.

    Matt Gibson - GSEC
     
    Matt Gibson, Feb 7, 2005
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  12. Michael G

    FFE Guest

    there is a wealth of info on microsoft,all you need to do is loo
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/generalfaq.mspx

    here's one item i found in less than 3 minutes
    "There can be only one Windows Small Business Server 2003 server in a
    domain. Each Windows Small Business Server 2003 server is typically connected
    to the Internet either directly, or via a firewall. Windows Small Business
    Server 2003 does not support trusts between domains; therefore, user names
    and resources could not be shared between those Windows Small Business Server
    2003 servers. Further, Windows Small Business Server 2003 installs at the
    root of the Active Directory forest, and it cannot be demoted, or have the
    flexible single-master operation (FSMO) roles removed"
     
    FFE, Feb 8, 2005
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  13. Michael G

    Andrew H Guest

    Don't forget that SBS goes far beyond Server 2003 - Exchange, ISA & SQL in
    Premium, usable wizards, etc. If you don't have these features in your
    current system, it might be worth a little rethink just to get the benefit.
     
    Andrew H, Feb 8, 2005
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