Virual PC 2004 problem

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by neena, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. neena

    neena Guest

    I just installed trail version of VPC 2004. on Win2000.
    I started installing 98 os
    with options
    No scandisk, no registerty check. installation started
    properly and it went
    ahead completing 100%.
    but then after completing 100% it restarted and i never
    saw 98 screen.
    Harddisk red light shows continious blink , but does not
    proceed further.
    what could be the reason?

    I investigated further and found that scandisk do not
    work, if i say at dos prompt scandisk it tells me that
    cluster is not of the appropriate size and something.
    i have created vhd on a NTFS drive and while installing
    98 i mentioned to format it with FAT. and the partition
    size is 4000MB

    neena, Jun 30, 2004
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  2. How much memory did you allocate?
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 30, 2004
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  3. neena

    Guest Guest

    128MB initially , but it did not worked so i adjusted between 100 to 128MB
    Guest, Jun 30, 2004
  4. Did you make a new startup diskette as part of the
    installation processing? If so, what happened when you
    used it to restart?
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 30, 2004
  5. neena

    Guest Guest

    HI Colin,

    Sorry for the late reply.

    I skiped the process of creating a startup diskette.

    Was it necessary ???

    Guest, Jul 6, 2004
  6. It is not necessary if everything goes OK. ;)

    What is the source CD? Is it a MS original: OEM, Upgrade, or Full? Is it
    an iso file? Is it a copy? Have you tried a repair install? Remember that
    the emulated hardware cannot be changed so do not try to use the video
    driver for your physical video card.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 6, 2004
  7. neena

    Guest Guest

    CD are original , but our system engg. as created a copy of the cd in a
    folder (so its not bootable cd).
    So that original cd is intact.

    i still doubt why scandisk is not able to perform scan, perhaps i am doing
    things stupidly... let me repeat my steps

    1. since CD is not bootable what i did was took a NT bootable CD and
    formated C: with FAT.
    2. After that i booted the PC with 98 bootable Floopy ( since floppy do no
    contain format command step 1 was my work around)
    3. then i run setup from the CD (copy of original )
    1st time when i did that i simply exits to dos.
    then i reliazed that scandisk is not performing its tasks ( due to
    some error that he can't run scandisk as some cluster size is not matching
    ...... .... etc etc )
    So i run setup with skip scandisk, skip memmorycheck and skip
    registerty option and installation started....
    after 1 hr it comepletes its process and restarts the system

    and then no progress... only continous blink on harddisk and CPU
    usage 99%

    Any Clue what can be wrong...
    Guest, Jul 7, 2004

  8. I don't know exactly what is wrong. But the first thing I would do is
    try to use the original CD instead of a copy. Report back what happens
    when you try that. HTH
    David Sanders, Jul 7, 2004
  9. Download a boot floppy image from and use that so you are using
    the correct floppy. You do not need to create a physical floppy (although
    you will want to make a setup diskette at the appropriate point in the
    install). You can use the image file directly with the virtual drive A:.
    Install with the original CD or make an .iso image (even better in most
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2004
  10. neena

    Guest Guest

    Unfortunitely system engg. will not allow me to take oriiginal CD Home.
    With Original CD i tried installing Win98 on VPC and it was successfull.

    Now if i take Win98VPC Hard Disk.vhd and Win98VPC.vmc file on to Home PC
    will it work ?

    Guest, Jul 8, 2004
  11. neena

    Robert Comer Guest

    It should. Make sure they are in the same directories on your hard drive.

    - Bob Comer
    Robert Comer, Jul 8, 2004
  12. No problem, at least with the .vhd. I would simply point the existing .vmc
    file to the new .vhd. I have downloaded .vhd files and directly used them
    with a new .vmc with no problems.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2004
  13. By the way, I hope you can work out the licensing.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 8, 2004
  14. neena

    Guest Guest

    Hi Colin,
    Thanks for the help,
    We want to suggest the management that VPC can be good utility for testing
    of software on various platform and for R&D. but before we put up in front
    of management we ourselfs wanted to confirm that it will be really useful
    and there are no issues and also what will be the hardware cost in terms of
    memory usage. once approved licensing will be taken care by I.T Head, as
    such we have all license products.

    With 256k, things works slow, I think minimum will require 1GB of memory to
    make things work smoothly.. what do you say ?

    Guest, Jul 12, 2004
  15. My policy towards memory is that if you turn on the computer and the lights
    don't dim, add memory.

    You probably will not be happy allocating the minimum suggested memory to
    the guest servers. With that in mind, I cannot see many scenarios in which
    less than 1GB would be satisfying. But of course, the key question is how
    many servers/roles do you want to virtualize? The cost of the man hours
    maintaining obsolescent hardware, both servers and clients, has to be key.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 12, 2004
  16. neena

    Guest Guest

    Hi Colin,
    I check with our systems engg. we have PIII machines with max capacity of
    512MB memory.
    On OS Win2000 If i install using VPC -> Win2000/2003 + Whidbey + SQLServer
    will it run smoothly in 512 memory.

    Guest, Jul 13, 2004
  17. The whole point of VPC is that you've got nothing to lose by trying. What's
    the worst that can happen if it doesn't work out? You delete the virtual
    machine and try something else.

    Without doing the math, my best guess is that 512MB will not be enough for
    the full set of roles you mentioned. Like Archimedes once said, "you can't
    get two pounds of peanusts in a one-pound bag." But like I said, what have
    you got to lose by trying?

    Add up the MINIMUM requirements for each of the components and add another
    32MB for VPC itself. The result is the system you DON'T want.

    Next add up the RECOMMENDED requirements the same way. That result is the
    system you DO want. If the recommended requirements exceed 512MB, see if
    you can get at least another 256. I suspect that the memory consists of two
    256MB memory sticks. If you can replace one of those with a 512MB stick, do
    so. If it is paired memory, both sticks will have to be replaced and you
    will have 1GB.

    One thing is crystal clear; your hard drive is going to get a workout
    because everything will be going to the paging file all the time. This is
    known as a bad thing.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jul 13, 2004
  18. neena

    Steve Jain Guest

    Think about this, what would the performance be of a physical system
    running Win2000/2003+Whidbey+SQL server?

    Now add, the overhead of a 2nd OS.

    VM technology doesn't allow you to get around memory requirements.

    Steve Jain, Microsoft MVP for Virtual PC for Windows
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    Steve Jain, Jul 13, 2004
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