Vista’s Windows Photo Gallery – Importing Pictures

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Music, Pictures and Video' started by Nailz_Arizona, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. Hello Everyone,

    I have a question and hopefully someone can help.

    I used to use IrfanView with XP but with Vista I am (or trying to) use the
    built-in Photo Gallery. The issue I am having is that when I import images
    from my camera via a memory card, I no longer have an option to select say a
    few files, give them a file name / tag. Instead, Vista just names ALL of the
    images that are being importing with whatever the Tag / File Name that is
    giving.
    I cannot find an option to change this, is this possible?

    Also, is it possible to:
    - Edit the EXIF information (example: original picture date, etc…)
    - See images side by side?

    Thank you in advance for any help.

    Sincerely,
    Paul, Arizona USA
     
    Nailz_Arizona, Mar 18, 2007
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  2. Hi Paul.

    Thanks for posting. The Import Photos experience in Windows Vista was
    optimized to get your photos from the camera to your hard drive quickly, in
    just a couple of mouse clicks, where you would then be able to use the
    Windows Photo Gallery to customize your photo collection. So while the
    import wizard only lets you add the same tag to all your photos at once (or
    not at all -- adding a tag is optional), you can then see all your photos in
    Photo Gallery and create any assortment of custom tags for your photos
    there.

    In addition, you can change the date taken field for your photos in Windows
    Photo Gallery as well. To do that, select a photo and then change the date
    in the Info pane on the right side of the Gallery.

    You can read more about importing your photos here:

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Wi...bfe2-19c5-4083-82d7-2e37cf2085651033.mspx#EKD

    If you want to learn more about using tags in Photo Gallery, check out this
    help topic:

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a00b1bd141033.mspx

    And finally, here is a more detailed explanation of changing date/time
    settings on your photos:

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/a9f42cc1-d0a1-417f-b084-164a00b1bd141033.mspx
     
    Dave Johnson [MSFT], Mar 21, 2007
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  3. Thank you for the information Dave.

    Are there plans to allow importing with greater flexibility/options for
    Vista? To be frank, the current system is just too limiting.

    Thank you again,
    Paul
     
    Nailz_Arizona, Mar 21, 2007
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  4. We're definitely hearing the feedback, Paul. I can say that the feature team
    is considering that in planning for future updates.
     
    Dave Johnson [MSFT], Mar 22, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    OMG
    So, Dave, what you're saying is: once you set all those options on what and
    where to import your photos, you CAN NOT change them. No way to reset and do
    over??
    I cannot believe that something like this would be left out and that MS
    would assume that everyone would want ALL their images with the same tag(s)
    imported everytime a media card is plugged in.
     
    Jeff, Mar 23, 2007
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  6. Dave thank you for responding.

    More options, especially when it comes to naming/tagging files is very
    important and I'm happy to hear you guys are looking at improving this so
    that individual pictures can be tagged/named when imported.

    1. Do you have an ETA when this may be implemented?
    2. By changing the date via Windows Photo Gallery, does this change the EXIF
    information? I use a web site that collects the EXIF date & description to
    display so this is critical for me.
    3. Until there is an update/improved photo importing implemented. Does
    *ANYONE* know of a good work-around?

    Thank you again,
    Paul
     
    Nailz_Arizona, Mar 28, 2007
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  7. Dave,

    Thank you for your quick response and information.

    1) Can you give us an ETA of when improved photo importing will be
    implemented?
    2) When one changes the dates in Windows Photo Gallery, does that update the
    EXIF data? I use a web site that displays the EXIF date & description so this
    is important to me.
    3) In the meantime, does *ANYONE* know of a work-around or 3rd party
    applications that can do this better?

    Thank you again,
    Paul
     
    Nailz_Arizona, Mar 28, 2007
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  8. Hi Jeff,

    No, that's not what I'm saying at all. You can optionally assign one tag (or
    a set of tags separated by semicolons) to a batch of photos as they're
    imported. But after you get them in Photo Gallery, it's much more flexible
    environment for chnaging, adding, and removing tags. So, for example, this
    is the way I work:

    1. I import a memory card fuill of photos, applying one "uuber" tag to all
    of the images at the time of import -- say, "vacation."
    2. In Photo Gallery, I select the "vacation" tag so I see all these photos.
    2. I find the one photo that wasn't a vacation shot -- it was a photo of my
    cat that I took before leaving the house -- and remove the "vacation" tag. I
    add "pets" to that photo.
    3. Next, I select groups of photos and add additional tags, such as
    "sunset," "beach," and so on.

    I understand that it isn't a workflow that appeals to everyone, but I like
    it, and it works really well in Vista.
     
    Dave Johnson [MSFT], Mar 29, 2007
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  9. Hi Paul,
    I am afraid not, sorry.
    Yes, it does.
    I am unaware of any programs that offer flexible tagging at import, but I am
    sure there might be some folks on this group that do.
     
    Dave Johnson [MSFT], Mar 29, 2007
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    JojoS Guest

    I realize this is an old thread. Have just been searching for how to voice
    my 2 cents on my frustration with this.

    I like the XP import wizard much better because I often have new several
    events on my camera before I load them on the computer. Dave, I understand
    your method, but find it much more cumbersome than just selecting a few pix
    at a time in XP.

    My own solution is to use my laptop with XP and send them to my networked
    (Vista) desktop. BTW - I love the ease of the networking in Vista!
     
    JojoS, May 4, 2007
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    Bob Krause Guest

    Dave,

    I understand your workflow, but it sounds very cumbersome to me. I should
    probably consider using tags, but I've always used the directory structure
    and filename to describe my photos. For instance, let's say I just got back
    from a vacation in Germany where I visited Dusseldorf on the 3rd and Berlin
    on the 4th and 5th. I would probably have the photos from both cities on one
    card. Here's the way I would have imported those photos in XP:

    1) I would have created a new folder under my existing Pictures/Vacations
    folder called "Germany May 2007".
    2) From the wizard I would have selected the photos of Dusseldorf, created a
    new folder named "Dusseldorf" and imported the selected photos into that
    folder using "Dusseldorf 05032007" as the base, deleting the imported photos
    only.
    3) After completing the wizard, I would right-click the drive icon for my
    card and choose "Autoplay".
    4) I'd do the same thing for the Berlin photos taken on the 4th, naming the
    photos "Berlin 05042007".
    5) I'd run the wizard one more time, selecting the Berlin photos from the
    5th, naming them "Berlin 05052007".

    It's a very simple process that organizes the photos in a logical way and
    gives me a lot of information...even when looking at them in My Computer. The
    new Vista methodology seems to me that it would be a lot more tedious and
    time consuming.

    Bob
     
    Bob Krause, May 7, 2007
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    Azim Virani Guest

    Hi Dave,

    I have a similar problem to someone above. The first time I hooked up my
    camera through USB, and I selected the import photos options with the camera
    icon, I was given some choices as to where I would like the photos sent to,
    the location of the folder, name of folder, and the tag attached to each
    photo.

    My problem now is that as soon as I click the import photos option in the
    autoplay menu, I am not given those options anymore. Where can I still
    access these options prior to going into the gallery, and how do I set Vista
    to ask me each time what options (tag / folder/ etc.) I want?
     
    Azim Virani, May 23, 2007
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    NL12143 Guest

    Stay away from software from Microsoft to change your Exif/IPTC data.
    i.e. Vista's Photo galerry, import wizard or PhotoInfo.

    The markernotes by the camera ( Canon, Nikon) will be lost forever.

    Use Photoshop Elements Organiser to add labels (tags). preferably backup the
    exif
    data before and apply these after editing. Most edit programs destroy
    makernotes.
    But not as bas as MS tools. With Adobe they can be re-inserted from a backup
    later.
    Passed through MS tools re-insert from a backup is simply imp[ossible :-(
     
    NL12143, Jul 31, 2007
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    stewartnmij Guest

    Hi Dave,
    I am disappointed that Vista does not allow selection of individual pictures
    to import as XP did. This is not a good feature, it is a serious limitation
    and an unnecessary change from what was a good system on XP. Even bringing up
    a window from my camera and a window from Pictures Vista does not allow me to
    drag and drop a selection of pictures from the camera to Pictures. You must
    change this soon and issue an update patch. It seems as if the Vista
    programmers were not on speaking terms with the XP programmers! I hope you
    can improve the import pictures soon to allow for more flexible importing of
    pictures.
     
    stewartnmij, May 1, 2008
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    stewartnmij Guest

    Hello all,
    The way Vista works in importing pictures from a camera is clearly an
    oversight by the programmers that they did not provide an option to select
    and tag individual photos. The good news is that the program Picasa provided
    with my new Toshiba laptop does this.

    But a message to Dave Johnson is that this does let Microsoft off the hook
    for fixing this inflexible feature in importing photos.
     
    stewartnmij, May 1, 2008
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    operaflute Guest

    Here's another vote for the old XP method of import. Vista's stinks. I
    don't want to RE-IMPORT pictures I already have, or give pics of different
    events the same name or folder.
    Gahhh! Maddening.
     
    operaflute, Dec 9, 2008
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    Dave Guest

    Dave, Dec 9, 2008
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    operaflute Guest

    Windows Live Gallery says it will do this:

    Photo Gallery will automatically organize them based on date and time.

    Which makes me think that after importing them I'll have to be copying them
    to the folders I REALLY want them in.
    "Automatically organize" is code for "not let you put the pictures where you
    want them" if you ask me.
    To be fair, I haven't downloaded/tried this yet, but I'm skeptical.
     
    operaflute, Dec 9, 2008
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    Dave Guest

    Try it ;-)

    The File Import works the same as the older program, it puts the photos
    where you tell it.
     
    Dave, Dec 9, 2008
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    operaflute Guest

    It won't put them in folders by date, then? (Still suspicious...)
     
    operaflute, Dec 9, 2008
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