>>> Vista and something that does not yet seem to be addressed <<<

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by John Monahan, Jan 15, 2007.

  1. John Monahan

    John Monahan Guest

    I have been looking over this newsgroup for a few days and do not seem to
    find the answer to a situation that I am sure will come up a lot;-

    OK I have an install of XP+SP2 that is years old and is on a disk with many
    many other correctly functioning programs. Everything is rock solid. The XP
    does not seem to pass the WGA test (because it is some old OEM product or
    something) so to move to Vista I suppose I will opt for a full/clean

    Here is my issue.... I have many programs on the disk many of which I am not
    sure I can find the install CD's or internet downloads. They are all linked
    into the XP registry fine and function correctly. Can I install a "full
    install" version of Vista on this disk WITHOUT having to track down the CD's
    of all of these programs and reinstall them. Can I boot up on the above XP
    and simply install Vista over it without loosing anything. In other words
    can I avoid having to reformat the disk booting from the DVD drive.
    John Monahan, Jan 15, 2007
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  2. You may be able to use the upgrade option rather than the custom option and
    thus preserve your apps. When you use a full edition product key Vista
    Setup does not need to verify genuine Windows so the only question remains
    is what the compat report says. This report is generated when you choose
    the upgrade option. You must remove any apps, drivers, etc. identified by
    the compat report as blocking the upgrade.

    It is possible that the upgrade option will be disabled. This can happen
    when you have a configuration that is incompatible with Vista. There is no
    way to know if this will happen until it happens. If there is something
    non-standard about your XP you may run into this.

    The old OS is removed completely, even in an upgrade scenario, so don't
    worry about snippets of XP interfering with your new Vista installation.
    There won't be any. You might have problems resulting from one or more of
    the apps you carried over, however. This is a common experience with
    upgrades from XP to Vista.

    Use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard from Vista to save your files and
    settings in case an upgrade is disabled or the upgrade does not produce
    satisfactory results.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 15, 2007
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  3. John Monahan

    Kerry Brown Guest

    Colin has covered everything very well. I'll add a couple of tips. Backup
    everything before you start. I prefer to use a disk imaging program with an
    external hard drive. If something goes wrong in the upgrade process you can
    then get back to where you started. The programs most likely to cause
    problems are antivirus, antispyware, disk utilities and other programs that
    require low level system access. It is best to uninstall those programs
    before the upgrade then install Vista compatible versions after the upgrade.
    Kerry Brown, Jan 15, 2007
  4. I will add one additional tip.

    Image your system to an external hard drive before you begin the upgrade.
    Then, if things blow up, you can go back to where you were previously and
    try again.



    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
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    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
    Richard Urban, Jan 15, 2007
  5. Richard Urban, Jan 16, 2007
  6. John Monahan

    John Monahan Guest

    Thanks guys I am getting there. So if I understand correctly, I buy a full
    edition put it in the DVD drive WHEN I already have XP up and running and
    take an upgrade option instead of a full install. Will Vista not get bent
    out of shape because I am asking for an upgrade rather than a new install
    with the full install key I will be using? I.e. does a full install key
    also work for an upgrade key?

    Richard the cable transfer approach will not work for me. I will put the OS
    on the same computer. I just upgraded it with a new motherboard etc.
    John Monahan, Jan 16, 2007
  7. John Monahan

    Kerry Brown Guest

    The key determines what version of Vista is installed. If it's a full
    version key then you can upgrade or do a clean install. If it's an upgrade
    key then you can only upgrade.
    Kerry Brown, Jan 16, 2007
  8. When you buy a full edition the legacy license is not tied to the new
    installation. Therefore you can use whatever installation method is the
    most convenient for you. Perhaps you are confusing upgrade pricing with
    upgrade functionality. Retail full editions of Windows have always
    supported upgrading.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 16, 2007
  9. John Monahan

    John Monahan Guest

    Thanks Richard & Colin you were a big help. It's now clear to me and I am
    ready to go. Counting the days to the end of the month!
    John Monahan, Jan 16, 2007
  10. Best wishes with your new Windows.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 16, 2007
  11. I updgraded from XP pro to Vista. After upgrading, none of my installed
    software shows up in Vista. Programs like Office 2007, Photo Shop, Viso, MS
    Maps, all installed on XP pro. How do I fix this problem. How do I get this
    programs to run? I can see them in the old windows folder but they were not
    identified during the install process. Why and How do I fix them.

    Visa Upgrade Doesn't find Programs, Feb 19, 2007
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