Vista firewall turns back on

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Clive Blackman, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. We aave a firewall on our wireless router, so I have switched off the WIndows
    firewalls on our three PCs. However, since adding our first Vista notebook
    it keeps turning its firewall back on.
     
    Clive Blackman, Dec 20, 2007
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  2. Clive Blackman

    Mr. Arnold Guest

    Since you're talking about wireless where anyone can join your LAN on the
    wireless and attack any computer on your LAN wired or wireless because it's
    not secured properly from such an attack, maybe it best that you enable the
    Vista FW, and the ones on the other computers too.

    http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelesssecurity/tp/wifisecurity.htm

    Have you heard of War Driving?

    Anyone with any expertise can join your network on the wireless and be all
    over the top of the computers, if they are not protected.
     
    Mr. Arnold, Dec 21, 2007
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  3. I would have both turned on, since Routers Firewall would be hardware based
    and the one built into Windows Vista is software based. The extra protection
    won't hurt anyone.
     
    Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin], Dec 21, 2007
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  4. Clive Blackman

    NoStop Guest

    You really are pathetic, aren't you? Where did you learn that rubbish? With
    that kind of thinking, running more than one software firewall should even
    increase your security level even more. Sorry, but it doesn't work that
    way. A firewall is a firewall and if the hardware based one is capable of
    keeping someone out of your box, why in the name of gawd would you also run
    a second software based firewall? Want to make Fista slower than it already
    is?

    Cheers.

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    NoStop, Dec 21, 2007
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  5. Clive Blackman

    Quaoar Guest

    Vista really wants wireless security, WPA or WPA2, set in the router.

    Q
     
    Quaoar, Dec 21, 2007
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  6. Clive Blackman

    Frank Guest

    NoStop wrote:
    ....A firewall is a firewall and if the hardware based one is capable of
    Are you really that fukkin dumb?
    I guess so!
    Frank

    oh, and forget about getting mental help as it requires some semblance
    of a brain in order to be helped.
    Obviously, you don't even come close to qualifying.
     
    Frank, Dec 21, 2007
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  7. It's called "defense in depth" and is actually sound practice although
    probably overkill for a small home network.
     
    the wharf rat, Dec 21, 2007
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  8. Thanks for the replies, my question was NOT about whether or not to use a
    firewall, it was about the Vista filewall turning back on automatically. If
    you have the experience and technical knowledge to answer that, I would be
    grateful for a reply. (btw: we use wireless encryption behind the firewall,
    only someone who felt the need to pick an argument would make such a silly
    assumption without first checking with the originator of the question).

    I must say, this is like being mugged on a street corner - a group of people
    waiting to jump on the next post - this is very poor and not what I would
    expect from a MS discussion group. But thank you to those who tried to be
    positive and helpful.
     
    Clive Blackman, Dec 21, 2007
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  9. You must be even dumbier then. Read the OP............
     
    thetruthhurts , Dec 21, 2007
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  10. Clive Blackman

    Frank Guest

    You can't be that fukkin stupid...or can you? I'm not replying to the op
    you idiot!
    Frank
     
    Frank, Dec 21, 2007
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  11. Clive Blackman

    PNutts Guest

    Clive:

    You really hit the nail on the head! I come to this group for entertainment,
    not for technical information. I'm not complaining, though, because it is
    hilarious. This NG should be titled, "Windows Vista General Discussion,
    brought to you by Jerry Springer".

    I can't answer your question, other than wonder if the laptop has additional
    software loaded by a VAR to help maintain your system.

    You probably don't want another opinon, but I'm curious if the firewall in
    your router only protects from attacks from the Internet side and not from
    attacks between the machines on your network? For example, machine #1 gets a
    nasty and spreads the love to machine #2 and 3? Without knowing the answer to
    that and myself being too lazy to find out, I leave 'em all on and while
    standing in my virtual flightsuit on the deck of my virtual aircraft carrier
    in Flight Simulator X shout, "Bring them on!" :)
     
    PNutts, Dec 21, 2007
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  12. Clive Blackman

    Mr. Arnold Guest

    Yeah, that's right the wireless traffic only encrypts the traffic between
    the wireless access point of the router and the card. It in no way protects
    against someone who has joined your wireless network (hacked it) and tries
    to compromise the computers on the LAN wired or wireless. And since you most
    likely have never even secured/harden the O/S to attack, the computers on
    your LAN are sitting there wide open.

    If it was an all wire router, which is more secure than wireless, that would
    be one thing. But it's not that. It's wireless. I am sitting here right now
    on a hotel's wireless LAN network, and there is no way that I will connect
    my computer to any wireless network without a FW enabled. I wouldn't do it,
    if it was my own wireless network.
     
    Mr. Arnold, Dec 21, 2007
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