Vista Firewall

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by AliceZ, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. Mark was/is not in this NG. Mark will never see it.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 22, 2008
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  2. That fact the with IE one can easily attack the user with an ActiveX
    control is a known fact. The fact that WM can be attack by and ActiveX
    control is a known fact. It's a known fact that MS solutions are
    targeted more than any solutions is a know fact. It's also a known fact
    the MS O/S is used by more users that will click away and get
    compromised is a known fact.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 22, 2008
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  3. AliceZ

    Flight Guest

    You can disable ActiveX if you don't trust it. So what's the problem then?
    And did you ever hear about Apple's Safari? Did you hear about the cracks of
    the servers from Red Hat and Fedora? Linux could not be attacked they said.
    But you know what? You can send a letter, written on paper. I assure you
    that you will not get any virus. Maybe the flue.
     
    Flight, Aug 22, 2008
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  4. AliceZ

    Mick Murphy Guest

    Read the OP's question.
    They came here for some sensible advice.
    The majority of people that post(except in vista.general) give decent answers.

    Then SCUM like you, mopngomery, decides to post in this Newsgroup.
    Go away, little man!
    You are a disgrace.
     
    Mick Murphy, Aug 22, 2008
    #24
  5. The "Paul Montgomery" you replied to is NOT the Paul Montgomery you
    love to hate (me) but someone who has the maturity of a teenager who
    gets his rocks off using my name and email address to post here.

    HIS IP - 4.224.xxx.xxx or 4.225.xxx.xxx - traces to anywhere between
    Dayton and Cincinnati Ohio: he has a dialup account with level3.com.
    He hasn't done that with his Earthlink account just yer. I'm waiting.

    MINE - 67.173.179.177 - traces to Chicago, IL and never changes: I
    have cable broadband with Comcast.

    Do I need to teach you how to check message headers now?
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 22, 2008
    #25
  6. BTW... it's patently obvious that you never even read the reply by my
    imposter. He isn't a beginner and his advice here is usually spot on
    and is definitely more detailed than your replies.

    You've never had any problem with "Mr. Arnold" replies, right? That's
    the moniker he uses here most the time. Here's the complete list from
    his past two weeks online:

    Paul Montgomery (me, your best buddy)
    Mr. Arnold
    The Bee (his newest)
    Anti on Chicken Little(s)
    Junk Yard Dog
    Little Mad Dog
    The Lone Ranger
    The Lone Ranger1
    The Lone Ranger2
    Paul Montgomery 9000
    General Paul Montgomery
    General Paul Montgomery1
    General Paul Montgomery2
    General Paul Montgomery3
    General Paul Montgomery4
    General Paul Montgomery5
    General Paul Montgomery6
    General Paul Montgomery7
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 22, 2008
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  7. If you'd care to actually read my post, you'll see that I told the OP
    that Vista' firewall was perfectly adequate for their purposes. I
    didn't recommend *any* 3rd party firewall, much less ZoneAlarm.


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    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
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    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Aug 23, 2008
    #27

  8. I'm not going to argue your point of view, as such, although I don't
    necessarily agree with it, but I would like to point out that referring
    to Steve Gibson as any sort of security "expert" is, at best, a sick joke.

    Gibson has been fooling a lot of people for several years, now, so
    don't feel too bad about having believed him. He mixes just enough
    facts in with his hysteria and hyperbole to be plausible. Despicably,
    Gibson is assuming a presumably morally superior pose as a White Knight
    out to rescue the poor, defenseless computer user, all the while
    offering solutions that do no good whatsoever.

    Perhaps you should read what real computer security specialists
    have to say about Steve Gibson's "security" expertise. You can start here:
    http://www.grcsucks.com/


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    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Aug 23, 2008
    #28
  9. Got a better site?
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 23, 2008
    #29

  10. Sorry, no. Gibson had been so thoroughly discredited do many years
    ago, that I failed to notice that that the web site had lapsed.


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    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Aug 23, 2008
    #30
  11. Wikipedia has a synopsis that looks pretty damning:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gibson

    Click on "computer programmer" then on "controversy"
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 23, 2008
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  12. That pretty much sums him up, yes. It's kind of a shame, in a way, as
    his SpinRite was actually a useful tool. It's too bad that he wondered
    off at a tangent, so to speak.


    --

    Bruce Chambers

    Help us help you:
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Aug 23, 2008
    #32
  13. Spinrite! THAT brings back memories! Haven't used that since Win98
    days. Maybe not since Win95 days!
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 23, 2008
    #33
  14. AliceZ

    Mick Murphy Guest

    You are despised here, by a lot of people.
    I use the web interface; tell me my IP.
     
    Mick Murphy, Aug 23, 2008
    #34
  15. 203.144.25.134

    Next?
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 23, 2008
    #35
  16. Or is it 121.50.197.54

    Yeah... that's it.

    My crystal ball is kinda foggy tonight, old chap.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 23, 2008
    #36
  17. AliceZ

    Mick Murphy Guest

    Wrong on BOTH guesses, poofter
     
    Mick Murphy, Aug 23, 2008
    #37
  18. AliceZ

    Kayman Guest

    It doesn't matter to me nor do I care! You are an proponent of PFW and I am
    not. Unless I come across non-commercial sponsored papers explaining the
    usefulness of an PFW in terms of Internet Security, I'll stick with what's
    written by Jesper and Steve. It is very unfortunate that their publications
    are not as widely distributed and I wish more users would read their
    written material. (I do very well following their advice, thank you!).
    But since you're in disagreement why don't you bring it up with the
    (heavyweights) authors concerned (you have read their articles, haven't
    you?). Jesper and Steve can be easily approached via e-mail. I am sure
    they'll respond to your concerns.
    Let us know how you fare.
    Subjective comment! The mere fact that the he has made a 180 degrees u-turn
    in relation to usefulness of PFW's and has discontinued updating his
    LeakTest application is significant indeed considering the commercial
    implication this may have had on his business venture.
    Besides, like or not, he still is regarded by many in high esteem...but I
    don't give a hoot!
    Yes, I know. It's an old hat. And then again, he just may be a bloody good
    business person which by itself many regard 'morally reprehensible', oh
    well :)
     
    Kayman, Aug 23, 2008
    #38
  19. AliceZ

    Flight Guest

    Can we go back to the original question, please?
     
    Flight, Aug 23, 2008
    #39
  20. The OP's question was answered in the first 5 replies. How many more
    times does someone have to say that Windows firewall is fine?

    IOW: GFY
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 23, 2008
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