Vista, I give up.. Back to WinXP

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Russell, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Russell

    Russell Guest

    I'm an IT professional. My network manager and myself have been using Vista
    Business Tablet Edition for 7 months on very good hardware. Tried SP1 too.
    Today, the aggregate of lost productivity just became unbearable. Over 7
    months, more blue screens than can be counted, file copy problems,
    application incompatibilities, hibernation problems, overall slowness, etc,
    It just became too much.
    We both wiped drives and installed WinXP. I haven't felt so relieved in a
    long time. Microsoft really ought to offer FREE OS downgrade rights to
    anyone who purchased this lemon product. Hey, we all make mistakes. The
    best thing to do is to then make it right. Sincerely, Russell Roberts
    Russell, Apr 11, 2008
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  2. Russell

    Chuck Guest

    "Over 7 months, more blue screens than can be counted, file copy problems,
    application incompatibilities, hibernation problems, overall slowness, etc"

    The leading causes of these problems are:
    Hardware that is not fully Vista compatible, including BIOS versions.
    Software drivers that are obsolete.
    Application programs that should be run in compatibility mode.
    Some really old application programs may need to be run via a DOS emulator
    (nothing new here either)

    Basically the same thing that has happened with almost every release of a
    new windows version.
    "Very good hardware" may have nothing to do with Vista compatibility. Past
    successful operation with older Windows versions is also no indication of
    Vista compatibility.

    The software houses and hardware OEMs cannot make any money if customers do
    not replace old equipment and software.

    "I'm an IT professional"
    Many "IT professionals" had the same opinion of XP and continue using
    Prior to that many continued to use Win 3.11 for the same reasons.
    (And so on)

    Few IT professionals implement new windows versions until after the first
    (or second) major update/bug fix is released and has been in use long enough
    to know that the system is stable.

    And, I don't particularly like Vista either.
    Chuck, Apr 11, 2008
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  3. Russell

    JethroUK Guest

    ....errrrrrrrrm surely it's Vista that isn't hardware/Bios compatible??????

    but it has give me a great idea - write a peice of shit software that
    doesn't work - and blame their computer for not being fully compatible with
    it - you just can't write this sorta stuff he he he he
    JethroUK, Apr 11, 2008
  4. Russell

    Russell Guest

    Reasonable points you make Chuck. I should have shared that the "very good
    hardware" that I refer to is Fujitsu Lifebook T4220. 2GB RAM, Centrino Duo,
    Purchased band new from Fujitsu with Vista Business preinstalled and updated
    to the latest Fujitsu drivers. If Fujitu can't make pre-installed Vista work
    satisfactory on their hardware, it's unlikely a business consumer can do

    That's my opinion. I do genuinely believe that Microsoft should do the
    right thing and give all consumers who purchased Vista free OS downgrade
    rights to a previous version.
    Russell, Apr 11, 2008
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    Alias Guest

    Why do you think MS has the hots for Yahoo? It's the advertising money.
    MS knows that Windows and Office are history and without those two cash
    cows, MS would go out of business. Hence, they need to switch to online
    advertising to stay alive.

    Alias, Apr 11, 2008
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    Rich T Guest

    Very good post and I agree with you totally.

    Lost productivity in trying to fix Vista problems is immeasurable, even for
    a home-user like me.

    I just can't imagine how any business could justify installing Vista. It
    offers no real benefits, yet a whole host of problems.
    Rich T, Apr 11, 2008
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    decadenzza Guest

    i join your opinion Russel ...

    I dont blame Microsoft, but the point is than in market such as it is
    you cant expect "perfect drivers, perfect hardware, perfect software..."
    to be able to run OS - or can you?
    so at least what they could do is option for free downgrade.

    Imagine "perfect best new car machine" that is fastest on the world,
    but it needs 982 humidity, 19,7 degree C, asphalt structure C2H6PO,
    tyres temperature and hardnes exact, oil, all the trasfer parts exact,
    driver weight, sunglases and beautiful blonde on the side of a driver to
    achive that - so is it really fastest?
    decadenzza, Apr 11, 2008
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    terren Guest

    I have said it before... DESKTOP OS like we know them are HISTORY.
    Especially freakishly built buggy fat pigs with lipstick like vista will
    soon be things of the past.

    A new era of computing is coming.. its called the CLOUD!
    terren, Apr 11, 2008
  9. Hello, all you had to do is come in here and ask if vista is worth while.

    I would have warned you to say away. Its a pig with lipstick, and the
    lipstick is of bad color and stinks too.

    As a professional I would have told you, but then again, you might have
    not believed me if you didnt see How BAD vista really is on your own.

    Now you know the truth, vista, even with SP1 is bad... and should be

    I hope you spread the word so that more people are saved before they
    fall into the vista hype trap.

    XP is the best and until windows7 proves itself, its the last good OS
    from MICROSOFT.

    Vista is just another windowsMe... and my personal opinion is that its
    worst than Me could ever be, simply because vista causing more grief to
    a larger amount of people as it is a "major" release.
    Neuron Net (on Ubuntu), Apr 11, 2008
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    Rich T Guest

    Also, you would have to ask the traffic cop every time you wanted to change
    gear or turn at a traffic light.
    Rich T, Apr 11, 2008

  11. And I'd strongly suggest that you both seek employment in other career
    fields not involving technology. If a self-proclaimed "IT professional"
    can't manage to install and maintain a stable Vista system, he's
    definitely in the wrong line of work.


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    killed a great many philosophers.
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    Bruce Chambers, Apr 11, 2008
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    Frank Guest

    It's a genius business move!

    It's the advertising money.

    It's to better compete in that market you idiot.
    You're so full of sh*t and hate for MS it's turns you into a blabbering
    fool. 99% of the world runs on MS Windows & Office.
    Sorry diskhead but you're a clueless idiot.

    and without those two cash
    WTF does Yahoo have to do with Windows OS's and MS Office, huh?
    Answer...nothing at all!

    Hence, they need to switch to online
    Don't give up that day job conning little old ladies out of their hard
    earned money sheep-fukker cause you'll starve in the market predicting
    But you could always eat your sheep to avoid starving...LOL!
    You're a real fukkin idiot!
    Frank, Apr 11, 2008
  13. Russell

    Frank Guest

    Yeah...capin' crunch is dreaming about being in the clouds...LOL!
    Clue...that cardboard space ship will never fly cc...hahaha!
    Frank, Apr 11, 2008
  14. WTF does Yahoo have to do with >Windows OS's and MS Office, huh?
    Oh boy, are you wrong on this one.
    Do you want me to explain... how its relative?
    laugh at fanboy in the box, Apr 11, 2008
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    Alias Guest

    You weren't expected to understand.

    Alias, Apr 11, 2008
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    Frank Guest

    You could explain the difference between night and day.
    You're the idiot moron who can't get his one little install of Vista to
    run properly. You don't know sh*t about computers or the software that's
    designed to run on them. You're just plain old stupid yet you can't
    admit it even to yourself.
    So now you want to explain a business decision by one of the largest and
    most successful companies in the word that you hate?
    Hahahahahahahaha...that down right funny!
    You're a real loser...LOL!
    Now get lost little man.
    Frank, Apr 11, 2008
  17. Russell

    Frank Guest

    I, along with this entire ng fully understand that you are a known and
    admitted liar and thief!
    Any questions?
    Frank, Apr 11, 2008
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    Ron Roberts Guest

    I, along with this entire ng fully understand that you are a known and

    You are discribing your own pathetic existance!

    YES! How can any human be so stupid!!! GOD!!!!!!
    Frank you win all moron awards on the planet!
    Ron Roberts, Apr 11, 2008
  19. Russell

    Frank Guest

    Ron Roberts, aka capin' crunch wrote:

    Get lost as8hole!
    Frank, Apr 11, 2008
  20. Russell

    Ron Roberts Guest

    Frank I promise to use one nick if you promise to block me and never reply
    to another of my posts...


    That way it would be "like" I would have "got lost" and I would be rid of
    the stupidest moron on usenet aka franky poo
    Ron Roberts, Apr 11, 2008
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