vista is crap

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Games' started by Vista crap, May 11, 2007.

  1. Vista crap

    Vista crap Guest

    every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
    Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not upgrade
    or go to apply mac.
     
    Vista crap, May 11, 2007
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  2. have a look here for games on vista
     
    VRG Scotty©, May 11, 2007
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  3. Vista crap

    Paul Smith Guest

    Civilization IV working great here, playing it right now.

    If you decide to stop acting like a 7 year old and try some basic
    troubleshooting let some of us know and we might do something to assist.

    --
    Paul Smith,
    Yeovil, UK.
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
    http://www.windowsresource.net/

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    Paul Smith, May 11, 2007
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  4. Vista crap

    swasrfa007 Guest

    WOWOOWOWOWOOWW
    a dumb** mother**** here
    stop doing some 6-year-old things please
    like Paul Smith said
    learn more u stupid
    btw.....
    there are way less games u can play on MAC than Windows.....u dumb
     
    swasrfa007, May 11, 2007
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  5. Vista crap

    socrfan Guest

    Agreed. Go into a software store. There's maybe two rows (I said maybe) of
    games for Macs but a dozen rows for Windows. Nuf said.
     
    socrfan, May 16, 2007
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  6. Vista crap

    Ben Yates Guest

    And not a single one will run on Vista.
    Or at least with *your* graphics card or *your* sound card.

    Vista is crap. My wife's won't even run those at vistareadygames
    I can go to apple.com and find games for my Mac - plenty - and all of them
    run fine, thank you!
     
    Ben Yates, May 18, 2007
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  7. I'm not here to defend Vista, but in terms of running games, I don't know
    that I would call it crap. So far it's run just about everything I wanted
    to. Granted, not always as fast as I would like, but it runs them all.

    If you're having trouble with that many games, then there would have to be
    another problem somewhere.
     
    Dale M. White, May 18, 2007
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  8. "at least with *your* graphics card or *your* sound card."
    Not sure what that means since games obviously do run on Vista.
    If you are saying none work on your computer, perhaps it is the
    hardware and not the operating system.
    However, since you left out all pertinent details, no one can help to
    determine where the cause of the problem lies.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], May 18, 2007
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  9. Vista crap

    Phil Guest

    I can sympathise. Many things I like about Vista, but far more I DON'T.
     
    Phil, May 18, 2007
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  10. Vista crap

    Mike Matheny Guest

    Vista crap explained on 5/11/2007 :
    So, you friends will play Civilization on a Mac???
     
    Mike Matheny, May 21, 2007
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  11. Vista crap

    Charlie Tame Guest


    Well, it's pretty clear to me what he means and pretty clear where the
    cause of the problem lies.

    What he refers to is the fact that game "A" will run on your hardware,
    game "B" will not and game "C" will run in a half assed manner but only
    with limited screen resolution or some other problem.

    Before you start with "It's your older hardware" and so on, don't bother
    - I have some of the very latest hardware and the problem is the same -
    yet all works well under XP.

    All my systems have removable drives, as an MVP I'm lucky, there are no
    licensing issues such as the normal user would have to endure and I have
    more than one PC, but my sympathies lie with a user who has traded in a
    useful machine for a Vista system only to be met with driver issues, UAC
    nag screens, everything familiar on the desktop shuffled around to no
    useful purpose, a media player that plays less than any previous
    versions and a lot of allegedly "Vista Ready" software that doesn't
    actually work properly.

    Whilst this is not all Microsoft's fault it's not exactly "Wow" either,
    and it is no use to anybody trying to make out that everything's just
    fine and dandy so it must be the user's fault... it doesn't even help
    Microsoft now does it?

    Vista was billed as the latest and greatest, and no matter what your
    excuses are the fact is that it is not, at least not yet.

    Charlie
     
    Charlie Tame, May 22, 2007
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    Feliks Dzerzhinsky, May 22, 2007
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    Charlie Tame Guest


    I don't recall anybody "Feeding" you...
     
    Charlie Tame, May 23, 2007
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  14. "as an MVP I'm lucky, there are no licensing issues such as the normal
    user would have to endure"
    What kind of an MVP is that?
    The Microsoft MVPs, are bound by the Exact SAME license as everyone
    else.
    If you think otherwise, you are very much mistaken.

    "What he refers to is the fact that..."
    That is not what was said.
    What was said:
    "And not a single one will run on Vista. Or at least with *your*
    graphics card or *your* sound card."
    You and he are not saying the same thing at all.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], May 23, 2007
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  15. Vista crap

    Charlie Tame Guest

    Well congratulations, you are even more obtuse than I had anticipated.

    IF you can bear to put yourself in the position of an ordinary retail
    purchaser of Vista you would consider the following:-

    Installing Vista on a machine begins with the "Activate Windows Now"
    option already selected. It is likely that the average user wants to get
    on with the task and will leave this option selected - and this assumes
    they even understand fully what it means which I do but you apparently
    don't.

    After the install hardware issues occur - as detailed by the OP in this
    case... it does not play well with "Your" hardware.

    However IF the user purchases new hardware he will most likely have to
    reactivate, no big deal but more hassle.

    Since I have an MSDN subscription this is not an issue for me but is a
    different concept for many users. I have some free activations for use
    while testing, the ordinary user has one!

    Now, if you think this is the same agreement an ordinary user gets then
    it not me who is wrong but you. Personally I think MS play quite fairly,
    however the activation issue is potentially intimidating for some
    because it implies "Guilty until you prove yourself innocent" to a lot
    of people. That may be right or wrong, but it is the impression some get
    that is the issue here and which in the end will cost MS sales.


    Next you made this statement
    "You and he are not saying the same thing at all."
    but only after editing my original comment so that indeed it did not say
    the same thing, in fact you edited it so that it said virtually nothing.


    What the OP actually said was clear enough in meaning, due to the fact
    that he placed some words in quotes... again here it is:-

    "And not a single one will run on Vista. Or at least with *your*
    graphics card or *your* sound card."

    Now, I have at least one machine that passed all the compatibility
    checks but still won;t run Vista, or at least it wouldn't until I
    replaced the graphics card, which nevertheless was listed as compatible.

    As an MVP I am aware that even MS cannot get things right all the time,
    and as an MSDN subscriber this hardware issue was not a real problem for
    me, but in the ordinary user's place both could have been a monumental
    nuisance, therefore it is my belief that it does nobody any good for
    people just to take the attitude that "I've had no problems so it must
    be the user's / hardware manufacturer's problem". This is not a good
    approach and not the least bit helpful to the less knowledgable user, in
    fact it's likely to put them off using these newsgroups for the purpose
    they were intended.

    So in future if you want to throw licensing issues in people's face
    please try to get a grasp of reality and when you quote "What was said"
    then do so in a manner that preserves the context instead of
    deliberately trying to mislead the reader.
     
    Charlie Tame, May 24, 2007
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  16. Anyone can acquire a MSDN subscription and they all have similar
    licensing.
    Being an MVP does not change that since MVPs get no special licensing
    for use of MSDN, the terms are the same as anyone who acquires an MSDN
    subscription.
    Perhaps it would have been more accurate to say:
    "as an MSDN subscriber I'm lucky, there are no licensing issues such
    as the normal user would have to endure".

    "IF you can bear to put yourself in the position of... "
    I do it all the time.
    Your assumption of otherwise is little more than a mistaken
    assumption.

    "I've had no problems so it must be the user's / hardware
    manufacturer's problem"
    That is entirely your idea, not mine.
    Hopefully you do not assume from anything I said that is what was
    meant.

    The reality is Ben, not actually the OP, said very little and never
    returned to clarify.
    You may be willing to read between the lines and assume, but I will
    not.
    And you would see that if you read my post.

    As I thought you knew, there is more to compatibility than age.
    New has never been a guarantee of Windows compatibility and this is
    not new to Windows Vista, it was the same when Windows XP was released
    as well as previous operating systems.
    But somehow you seem to be switching this to your issues when I said
    nothing about your systems at all.

    "deliberately trying to mislead the reader."
    FALSE and you SHOULD know that.
    You are making an ASSUMPTION and it is WRONG.
    If my intention was to mislead, the entire text would not have been
    quoted below as it was.
    There was no reason to quote more as the rest was already below in the
    entirety.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], May 25, 2007
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    Charlie Tame Guest

    Okay, for clarity I will insert comments in line...


    Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:



    Perhaps it would, however I was also taking into account that most MVPs
    are aware of the fact that WGA and Activation are not quite the same
    thing (Yet?) but to many people "Your hardware has changed significantly
    sing you originally installed windows" or whatever it says is followed
    by a warning that in 3 days your system will stop working unless you
    reactivate. Not only is this intimidating and confusing your OS provider
    has just told you your new $1500 machine will turn into a slab of
    concrete because "They" think you may have stolen it. "I" know this is
    not the case, as presumably do you, but many do not know and thus my
    reference to being an MVP and having no licensing issues such as the
    normal user would have to endure is in large part directed toward the
    fact that even if I did not have the advantage of "Spare" activations
    from MSDN (For perfectly legitimate purposes I would not be worried
    about phoning MS and explaining.



    It may be but that is not always obvious.



    That is most certainly how it looked...


    Well, if you would quit the selective editing you presently engage in
    you would be able to read that I was actually SAYING that hardware age
    had nothing to do with it. Let me remind you of your post that I first
    replied to...

    ====

    Not sure what that means since games obviously do run on Vista.
    If you are saying none work on your computer, perhaps it is the hardware
    and not the operating system.
    However, since you left out all pertinent details, no one can help to
    determine where the cause of the problem lies.

    ====

    And then I asked you :-

    ====

    Before you start with "It's your older hardware" and so on, don't bother
    - I have some of the very latest hardware and the problem is the same -
    yet all works well under XP.

    ====

    As I pointed out it was obvious that the person you were replying to was
    NOT referring to specific hardware but was nevertheless relating to
    something that's not an uncommon experience.


    Care to look again and see if it's there in it's entirety?
     
    Charlie Tame, May 26, 2007
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  18. You are obviously not reading what I say as is obvious by:
    "Care to look again and see if it's there in it's entirety?"
    I did just to be sure I did not edit something unintended and they are
    there.
    ALL of my posts in this thread quote the poster I responded to in
    ENTIRETY.
    Now you look again and see what you have obviously missed.
    There is probably more as well as the obvious that you have missed.

    --
    Jupiter Jones [MVP]
    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
    http://www.dts-l.org
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], May 26, 2007
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    Charlie Tame Guest

    Actually although your reply (The one to which I am responding now)
    appears complete the one I said was incomplete still appears on this
    machine to be incomplete.

    I find that strange but don't particularly want to go to great lengths
    to figure out why, since there is more than one newsreader that does
    strange things with posts from time to time. That being the case, if you
    have checked, then I apologize for the incorrect suggestion.
     
    Charlie Tame, May 28, 2007
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    bodgerman Guest

    Hello to everyone

    I was just wondering why it is that people have got to be so offensive
    all the time. All you had to do was post back and ask the original
    poster what hardware he had and then everyone could have possibly shed
    some light on the problem.
    Just because the game works fine on one machine it doesn't mean it's
    gonna work on another one.
    At the end of the day PC's are an headache and Vista hasn't helped.
    Just like XP when it was first introduced.

    XP now to me is a godsend but it still has its problems.

    I repair pc's for a living and i learn new things everyday. 2 Pc's can
    have the same problem but the solution may different.

    and why is it when a poster starts a thread everyone forgets about
    what the subject was about and you start slagging off each other.

    I dare say someone will post back and tell me to ****off but then why
    am i surprised.

    Get a grip people i was under the impression this was a forum to help
    people.

    Now lets see what sort of response that gets.
     
    bodgerman, May 28, 2007
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